Decanting into an A-clamp tin...from a DIN whip?

***EBT*** · 21st June 2005, 11:58

MDE sometimes have a few lying around. Thats why I used to get mine....

HelenM · 21st June 2005, 13:07

And no, John, you can't nick mine.

pchanning · 21st June 2005, 17:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

...A valveless 7 litre cylinder came flying out the door and across the car park at Deep Blue in Plymouth, narrowly missing one of our club members who was carrying some cylinders in for a fill...
thread.

Did you happen to see this? I was around in the afternoon and saw their new skipper (IIRC) who tried to stop the cylinder with his foot..!!

(he was on crutches having returned from hospital)

Mental note: do not try and play football with a run-away, high pressure, hard, fast moving object... it doesn't work and it will hurt.

They all shat themselves by all accounts. It was a Drager valve apparantly. Some believed that had a bearing, who knows.

Anyway, the chap put an adapter on it (of some description) that restricted the gas escaping (dont ask me how it got this far) it ended up on the floor rolling round, hit something hard, like a column, that took the valve clean-off. It proceeded to zoom around the shop like a very, very large, deranged blue bottle.

I was told that it shot out the doorway and zoomed around the carpark but thought that was shite..!! Seems it was for real.

It all 'appens down 'ere see.

paul

Andy M · 21st June 2005, 18:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr. Greekbird)

Did you happen to see this?

Nope, but had a very graphic description from the guy in my the club. He almost shat himself by his account. I was in the PYM marina just up the road.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr. Greekbird)

I was told that it shot out the doorway and zoomed around the carpark but thought that was shite..!! Seems it was for real.

For real! Glad I wasnt there, and very glad nobody was seriously injured. could have been a LOT worse.

Mdemon · 21st June 2005, 18:49

Kind of nice to know that it turns into a missile, not a bomb...

At least you have a chance of getting away!

Silent · 21st June 2005, 20:20

In that case I know never to challange you to a 100m dash as you must be related to Carl Lewis/Linford Christie

if you can out run a cylinder 'missile' travelling at a rate of knots in your direction....

I personally wouldn't rate my chances that high of even seeing/hearing it coming let alone trying to dodge it

Neil

Mdemon · 22nd June 2005, 09:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Silent)

In that case I know never to challange you to a 100m dash...
Neil

It would be futile, I agree...

My point was that most people think that a cylinder valve failing will lead to an explosion, which it doesn't. An explosion being infinitely less survivable than your chances of dodging a self-propelled cylinder...

It'll probably be a new Olympic Sport soon... Everything else seems to be...

Padowan · 22nd June 2005, 10:18

I've got 2x DIN valves kicking about that I'm pretty sure have got 3/4" threads on. You'll love these valves as they're not handed so will work equally happily on each side as bailouts, or you could even mount them on your SSBOD... The threads are a bit tired looking, but you're free to have them for nowt, so long as you accept that once I hand them over, anything that happens is nothing to do with me....

TTFN

Si

pchanning · 22nd June 2005, 16:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan)

I've got 2x DIN valves kicking about... the threads are a bit tired looking, but you're free to have them for nowt, so long as you accept that once I hand them over, anything that happens is nothing to do with me....

TTFN

Si

Quite a disclaimer there.

Just because hes a "Crash Test Dummy" doesn't mean you should give him to much rope

lizardland · 25th June 2005, 17:33

If Abyss-UK are still on the go then they used to sell Thermo valves. I have a couple of US Luxfers and they both have Thermo valves in them. I am in the same situation, not BS or EN stamped so they can't be stamped after a test. I get my local shop to test them and just give me a verbal OK on the understanding that a. they don't get a stamp or cert and b. they never turn up in the queue for filling. I have to admit, I do sneakily break rule B

Anyhow, stop being such a tight git and buy an adaptor, they are only a few quid. Bodging does the job but I regularly shite myself in my garage using my Acme Decanting Kit, fettled from the guts of a MDE manifold with a couple of assorted adaptors on each end. No bleed screw, just undo the A-clamp slowly until the pressure releases -- either in the o-ring or your sphincter!!!

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21st June 2005, 17:43	#13 (permalink)
pchanning PFO free :) Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: fixed! Posts: 454	Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M) ...A valveless 7 litre cylinder came flying out the door and across the car park at Deep Blue in Plymouth, narrowly missing one of our club members who was carrying some cylinders in for a fill... thread. Did you happen to see this? I was around in the afternoon and saw their new skipper (IIRC) who tried to stop the cylinder with his foot..!! (he was on crutches having returned from hospital) Mental note: do not try and play football with a run-away, high pressure, hard, fast moving object... it doesn't work and it will hurt. They all shat themselves by all accounts. It was a Drager valve apparantly. Some believed that had a bearing, who knows. Anyway, the chap put an adapter on it (of some description) that restricted the gas escaping (dont ask me how it got this far) it ended up on the floor rolling round, hit something hard, like a column, that took the valve clean-off. It proceeded to zoom around the shop like a very, very large, deranged blue bottle. I was told that it shot out the doorway and zoomed around the carpark but thought that was shite..!! Seems it was for real. It all 'appens down 'ere see. paul
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21st June 2005, 18:02	#14 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 424	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr. Greekbird) Did you happen to see this? Nope, but had a very graphic description from the guy in my the club. He almost shat himself by his account. I was in the PYM marina just up the road. Quote: (Originally Posted by Mr. Greekbird) I was told that it shot out the doorway and zoomed around the carpark but thought that was shite..!! Seems it was for real. For real! Glad I wasnt there, and very glad nobody was seriously injured. could have been a LOT worse. __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,927	Kind of nice to know that it turns into a missile, not a bomb... At least you have a chance of getting away! __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "small minds talk about people, Average Minds Talk About Events, GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS!" The WRONG Attitude will get you killed. "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"
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22nd June 2005, 09:43	#17 (permalink)
Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,927	Quote: (Originally Posted by Silent) In that case I know never to challange you to a 100m dash... Neil It would be futile, I agree... My point was that most people think that a cylinder valve failing will lead to an explosion, which it doesn't. An explosion being infinitely less survivable than your chances of dodging a self-propelled cylinder... It'll probably be a new Olympic Sport soon... Everything else seems to be... __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "small minds talk about people, Average Minds Talk About Events, GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS!" The WRONG Attitude will get you killed. "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"
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22nd June 2005, 10:18	#18 (permalink)
Padowan Proper Boffin Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Kent, UK. Posts: 518	I've got a couple of valves you might be interested in... I've got 2x DIN valves kicking about that I'm pretty sure have got 3/4" threads on. You'll love these valves as they're not handed so will work equally happily on each side as bailouts, or you could even mount them on your SSBOD... The threads are a bit tired looking, but you're free to have them for nowt, so long as you accept that once I hand them over, anything that happens is nothing to do with me.... TTFN Si __________________ Padowan The future's bright, the future's Yellow .....for now padowan.net - Latest Video: Scapa Flow Rebreather Diving
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22nd June 2005, 16:16	#19 (permalink)
pchanning PFO free :) Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: fixed! Posts: 454	Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan) I've got 2x DIN valves kicking about... the threads are a bit tired looking, but you're free to have them for nowt, so long as you accept that once I hand them over, anything that happens is nothing to do with me.... TTFN Si Quite a disclaimer there. Just because hes a "Crash Test Dummy" doesn't mean you should give him to much rope
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25th June 2005, 17:33	#20 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,305	If Abyss-UK are still on the go then they used to sell Thermo valves. I have a couple of US Luxfers and they both have Thermo valves in them. I am in the same situation, not BS or EN stamped so they can't be stamped after a test. I get my local shop to test them and just give me a verbal OK on the understanding that a. they don't get a stamp or cert and b. they never turn up in the queue for filling. I have to admit, I do sneakily break rule B Anyhow, stop being such a tight git and buy an adaptor, they are only a few quid. Bodging does the job but I regularly shite myself in my garage using my Acme Decanting Kit, fettled from the guts of a MDE manifold with a couple of assorted adaptors on each end. No bleed screw, just undo the A-clamp slowly until the pressure releases -- either in the o-ring or your sphincter!!!
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