Armadillo Sidemount Bungees

Philippe GERIN · 6th March 2008, 18:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley)

For some reason my wings are riding in between my tank and my canister. Bill

What ccr, what wing?
Best
Philippe

w ripley · 6th March 2008, 19:02

Meg + Agir Blackbird 36 and Halcyon 50.

Bill

**Dave Sutton** · 6th March 2008, 19:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami)

You might also have to consider changing wings until you find one that will position the valve correctly while providing the proper lift and wrap.

He might also stop using the wings for anything other than drysuit backup emergency bouyancy, and carefully weight and then use the suit for trimming bouyancy.

I'd say that in the last 'x' years of Rebreather diving I've actually put gas in my wings... not even once. Dove rigs for years without wings even attached. Dove twinsets for 20+ years without wings, using the drysuit, and it was never an issue. Just another view.

Dave

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Philippe GERIN · 6th March 2008, 20:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley)

Meg + Agir Blackbird 36 and Halcyon 50.Bill

Sorry Bill, can't help with these ones as I don't know them. If that helps I use an Oxycheq 40, Vertex 42 or DR Trek on my Meg or my CK. That works well with the Armadillo SM kit.
Best
Philippe

OceanOpportunity · 6th March 2008, 22:49

Jill Heinerth has a pretty good how-to video clip about the armadillo sidemount setup for carrying stages. It's on her Rebreather Pro homepage.

I generally jump in the water (when from a boat) with bottles clipped to my harness d-rings 'old-school style', then make the quick switch to the bungee to take advantage of the streamlining. I've found that on the larger bottles where there is a little more swing to them even when affixed to the top clip on the stage hardware, they can stay clipped and swing in close enough to take advantage of the bungee. Generally speaking, being a new england guy with choppy surfaces most of the time, I'm hesitant to jump in unless everyting is clipped in securely with hardware first.

SimonK · 7th March 2008, 17:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by OceanOpportunity)

Jill Heinerth has a pretty good how-to video clip about the armadillo sidemount setup for carrying stages. It's on her Rebreather Pro homepage.

I generally jump in the water (when from a boat) with bottles clipped to my harness d-rings 'old-school style', then make the quick switch to the bungee to take advantage of the streamlining. I've found that on the larger bottles where there is a little more swing to them even when affixed to the top clip on the stage hardware, they can stay clipped and swing in close enough to take advantage of the bungee. Generally speaking, being a new england guy with choppy surfaces most of the time, I'm hesitant to jump in unless everyting is clipped in securely with hardware first.

I do this to, I have moved the chest D ring lower down to make it easier kitting up on the bench on a crowded boat. Once in the water just flip the bungee over the valve knob or first stage.

Simon

Lancer4545 · 8th March 2008, 07:48

Just back from diving today with the set-up I described last time with the stage strap and the top snap shortened up close to the tank valve and the bottom held in place with a cam band and the bungees shortened up and a Ring on the bungee.

I was diving with 2 x S95 stages, both right hand valves.

After placing the tanks on the bench beside you it was simply a matter of clipping them on to the bottom rail and then I put them on the top bungee ring. It was a piece of cake and so much easier than before!!! I had no trouble walking down the steps and getting in with them in place.

Trim was just great and taking them off when getting back on the boat was just as easy as it is with the traditional D ring mounting.

All up it's a great mod!! If you're considering going to a sidemount system or having trouble with your existing set up, try this it works beautifully.

I hope to get some pics of todays dive and will pop them up later if anyone would like.

Regards,

Lance

Outlaw · 8th March 2008, 07:58

Thanks Lance,

you seem to be doing great work with pictures so, i for one, am waiting for those pics.

Cheers,

Spyros

Lancer4545 · 8th March 2008, 10:44

Here are a couple of pics I have just got from todays dive......The vis and conditions weren't too good so unfortunately neither are the pics but you can see how it is attached at each end. (Thanks Adam & Chrissie for the pics)

Regards,

Lance

8.03.08 004.jpg

8.03.08 010.jpg

teomannaskali · 8th March 2008, 12:25

How do various stands cover these issues? They seem to be longer so that you can fit an argon bottle in the bottom, do they also have attachment points for the tanks armadillo style??

Teoman

6th March 2008, 18:53	#41 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 634	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley) For some reason my wings are riding in between my tank and my canister. Bill What ccr, what wing? Best Philippe
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6th March 2008, 19:02	#42 (permalink)
w ripley Sorta New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk VA USA Posts: 152	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Meg + Agir Blackbird 36 and Halcyon 50. Bill
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6th March 2008, 19:31	#43 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami) You might also have to consider changing wings until you find one that will position the valve correctly while providing the proper lift and wrap. He might also stop using the wings for anything other than drysuit backup emergency bouyancy, and carefully weight and then use the suit for trimming bouyancy. I'd say that in the last 'x' years of Rebreather diving I've actually put gas in my wings... not even once. Dove rigs for years without wings even attached. Dove twinsets for 20+ years without wings, using the drysuit, and it was never an issue. Just another view. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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6th March 2008, 20:58	#44 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 634	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley) Meg + Agir Blackbird 36 and Halcyon 50.Bill Sorry Bill, can't help with these ones as I don't know them. If that helps I use an Oxycheq 40, Vertex 42 or DR Trek on my Meg or my CK. That works well with the Armadillo SM kit. Best Philippe
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6th March 2008, 22:49	#45 (permalink)
OceanOpportunity for a world of water Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 543	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Jill Heinerth has a pretty good how-to video clip about the armadillo sidemount setup for carrying stages. It's on her Rebreather Pro homepage. I generally jump in the water (when from a boat) with bottles clipped to my harness d-rings 'old-school style', then make the quick switch to the bungee to take advantage of the streamlining. I've found that on the larger bottles where there is a little more swing to them even when affixed to the top clip on the stage hardware, they can stay clipped and swing in close enough to take advantage of the bungee. Generally speaking, being a new england guy with choppy surfaces most of the time, I'm hesitant to jump in unless everyting is clipped in securely with hardware first. __________________ Michael Lombardi Oceans of Opportunity www.oceanopportunity.com Elected Director, Society for Human Performance in Extreme Environments MN'07, The Explorers Club Project Manager, Diving a Dream
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7th March 2008, 17:46	#46 (permalink)
SimonK Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cumbria UK Posts: 231	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Quote: (Originally Posted by OceanOpportunity) Jill Heinerth has a pretty good how-to video clip about the armadillo sidemount setup for carrying stages. It's on her Rebreather Pro homepage. I generally jump in the water (when from a boat) with bottles clipped to my harness d-rings 'old-school style', then make the quick switch to the bungee to take advantage of the streamlining. I've found that on the larger bottles where there is a little more swing to them even when affixed to the top clip on the stage hardware, they can stay clipped and swing in close enough to take advantage of the bungee. Generally speaking, being a new england guy with choppy surfaces most of the time, I'm hesitant to jump in unless everyting is clipped in securely with hardware first. I do this to, I have moved the chest D ring lower down to make it easier kitting up on the bench on a crowded boat. Once in the water just flip the bungee over the valve knob or first stage. Simon
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8th March 2008, 07:48	#47 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 659	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Just back from diving today with the set-up I described last time with the stage strap and the top snap shortened up close to the tank valve and the bottom held in place with a cam band and the bungees shortened up and a Ring on the bungee. I was diving with 2 x S95 stages, both right hand valves. After placing the tanks on the bench beside you it was simply a matter of clipping them on to the bottom rail and then I put them on the top bungee ring. It was a piece of cake and so much easier than before!!! I had no trouble walking down the steps and getting in with them in place. Trim was just great and taking them off when getting back on the boat was just as easy as it is with the traditional D ring mounting. All up it's a great mod!! If you're considering going to a sidemount system or having trouble with your existing set up, try this it works beautifully. I hope to get some pics of todays dive and will pop them up later if anyone would like. Regards, Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au Last edited by Lancer4545 : 8th March 2008 at 07:50. Reason: SP check
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8th March 2008, 07:58	#48 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 640	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Thanks Lance, you seem to be doing great work with pictures so, i for one, am waiting for those pics. Cheers, Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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8th March 2008, 10:44	#49 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 659	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees Here are a couple of pics I have just got from todays dive......The vis and conditions weren't too good so unfortunately neither are the pics but you can see how it is attached at each end. (Thanks Adam & Chrissie for the pics) Regards, Lance 8.03.08 004.jpg 8.03.08 010.jpg __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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8th March 2008, 12:25	#50 (permalink)
teomannaskali Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Istanbul TR Posts: 384	Re: Armadillo Sidemount Bungees How do various stands cover these issues? They seem to be longer so that you can fit an argon bottle in the bottom, do they also have attachment points for the tanks armadillo style?? Teoman
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