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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This A slide valve on the side may not be the greatest thing but I can deal with it quite easily. good luck with you're personel preference.It really would not bother me to have 3 or 4 slide valves and 4 knobs in the O2 (lifeline). I am quite capable of turning them on without assistance or mental strain. I monitor my PO2 closely enough that I notice that the O2 is not being injected long before it is any kind of an issue. Case in point - although this shows my blatent stupidity! I realized that my O2 was not being injected on the back of the boat. Next thing I heard was " Dive Dive Dive" and overboard I went. I figured that I would deal with it during my descent. Even with nasty current, new to a drysuit, and not enough weight, I still managed to monitor my handsets and HUD. I had the tank turned on by 30'. Of Course I had my BO reg in my other hand at the same time. I realize that this is a matter of personel preference. I am just stating what works for me and why.
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| Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This Have you seen the http://www.rebreatherworld.com/megal...off-valve.html Rasmus was making? I have one and it is FANTASTIC!! All metal and very well made. It's real easy to operate and reduces the STRESS level in the event of a stuck solenoid. Lance
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![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This Have you seen the http://www.rebreatherworld.com/megal...off-valve.html Rasmus was making? That is a good idea ( looks a 3/8 nipple of dry suit inflator screwed into the reg)I have one and it is FANTASTIC!! All metal and very well made. It's real easy to operate and reduces the STRESS level in the event of a stuck solenoid. Lance Just need to swop my inspo for a meg so I can get to it Last edited by Shaunzxr : 10th February 2008 at 23:20. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This i would not have one on my o2 line , there have been lots of mishap's Ditto from me on that.with ccr diver s not turning on there o2 cylinder ,, you would now have two things that must be turned on ,,, i will stick with using the cylinder valve, or off board 02 ,,, ![]() I consider the risk of forgetting it shut, is much higher than any risks associated with needing to use the valve to control O2. An offboard O2 tank for manual addition is even better (if reaching your valve is difficult and want to reach it only once). Last edited by Gilles : 11th February 2008 at 04:06. |
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| CK#69 Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This Duuhh.... Yep, was for me, and I had to do it for real during my course when my KISS orifice started bleeding O2 round the side of it because the O-ring was wrecked.I seem to remember doing most of a dive in that mode at the end of mod 1. I thought that was a standard drill. Not a problem at all ![]() |
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![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This Yep, was for me, and I had to do it for real during my course when my KISS orifice started bleeding O2 round the side of it because the O-ring was wrecked. Its easy for everyone at 20m.Not a problem at all ![]() Try doing it at 75m. With partial pressures, its very hard and dangerous |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This Yep, was for me, and I had to do it for real during my course when my KISS orifice started bleeding O2 round the side of it because the O-ring was wrecked. read the first postNot a problem at all ![]() http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...tml#post167927 , and this one http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...tml#post167995 then come back with something to add to the thread ,,, , ![]()
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This Its easy for everyone at 20m. You must have very difficult and dangerous tank knobsTry doing it at 75m. With partial pressures, its very hard and dangerous . Ok so if your deep and overhead, and cannot ascend, you might not have the most constant PO2, but so what. I know that at 80m, I can keep it between 1.0 and 1.6 without too much concentration using the tank knobby. And if that doesn't work, flush and SCR (or OC, or manually inject via offboard tank) your way home. If you can't reach your tank knobs to control them well, re-configure your rig so you can. I fear anyone installing an in line O2 shut-off is increasing (rather than decreasing) their risk. Last edited by Gilles : 11th February 2008 at 10:16. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This You must have very difficult and dangerous tank knobs I think you have to take into acount the different configurations from rebreather to rebreather, the amount of hoses and manifolds and the length of the hoses determines the amount of space that needs to be/ can be filled once you open the tank valve will make a world of difference. Add to that the flow through a wide open solenoid will also differ from make to make. . Ok so if your deep and overhead, and cannot ascend, you might not have the most constant PO2, but so what. I know that at 80m, I can keep it between 1.0 and 1.6 without too much concentration using the tank knobby. And if that doesn't work, flush and SCR (or OC, or manually inject via offboard tank) your way home. If you can't reach your tank knobs to control them well, re-configure your rig so you can. I fear anyone installing an in line O2 shut-off is increasing (rather than decreasing) their risk. Ithink everybody can reach and operate their tank valves, (they wouldnt have passed their course if they couldnt) the question is can you open and close it in time to only allow the right amount of gas through! and that depends on the above mentioned criterea and of course the depth! Dave |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Solenoid stuck open! No Problem With This I think you have to take into acount the different configurations from rebreather to rebreather, the amount of hoses and manifolds and the length of the hoses determines the amount of space that needs to be/ can be filled once you open the tank valve will make a world of difference... Hmm, another reason for tank de-inversion. Smaller hose capacitance. This is unit specific. Never mind .Still, one is still fairly likely to survive a PO2 spike to 2.0 or more, especially if you're aware of it. Very few will survive PO2 loss (especially if you're unaware of it). Way too many have passed because of this. |
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