Need advices about RBWstore LED backup

***EBT*** · 7th February 2008, 18:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

So I whipped out my trusty Photon Torpedo and ventured inside the hull of the Justicia.

At that very moment I swore by all that is holy and on the life of my children that id never ever by choice dive again with such stupid, wanky, pathetic, feeble piece of crap, pencil beamed rubbish back up torch.

Say what you feel mark, get it off your chest

That explains it, my backup is just that, if Im on it the dives over. Yours is being used to carry on the dive so of course you want a bigger/brighter candle

Mark Chase · 7th February 2008, 19:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by pieater)

For the Barbolite kind of money you might as well have one of these: Salvo HID Torches, 10 watt Hand Held light at divingniknaks 0121 707 5783. Frog, Dirzone, Agir Brokk Scuba Diving Gear

Also, will the Salvo Rats and the Scout be represented on the fuller test? I'm guessing they could be borrowed locally

I considered this as a torch but ummed and arred about using a HID because of its issues with being turned on and off a lot.

As for the Rats and Scout Ill have a word with a man I know

ATB

Mark

Barrie Law · 7th February 2008, 19:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

OI Barry want me to add this to my back up test

ATB

Mark

Hi Mark,

Let me know when & where to send one for you to test.

pieater · 7th February 2008, 21:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I considered this as a torch but ummed and arred about using a HID because of its issues with being turned on and off a lot.

How often do you turn on your backups?

***Beanie*** · 8th February 2008, 08:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT)

Say what you feel mark, get it off your chest

That explains it, my backup is just that, if Im on it the dives over. Yours is being used to carry on the dive so of course you want a bigger/brighter candle

I did my first ever dive on my back up torch

Mark Chase · 8th February 2008, 13:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by pieater)

How often do you turn on your backups?

I am doing my cave training in Mexico next week (I baught the Barbolight about two months ago) I so I anticipate doing it rather a lot. Obviously not so in normal diving conditions but the course was in my mind at the time.

There was also the point that I have confidence in a LED torch just working when i switch it on. Theres a moment of doubt every time i turn on the HID

.

The bulb or the ballast could have been damaged whilst not in use so the only way to test would be turn it on and off before the dive. An act in its self that can damage it....

You see my quandary

ATB

MArk

fletcher · 9th February 2008, 01:31

You should consider a tillytec w30.

This one led backup light is very impressive. In fact, i compared it with the barbolight U-15 (older version with 4 leds luxeon III +/- 300 lumens). The tillytec was much brighter and with a larger beam. It runs with 3 AA batteries. My buddy just came back from red sea and did 15 dives with the same three batteries. It is still running with 50% of the power. His wife liked it so much that she used it as her primary light for wreck dives in Egypt.
There is no switch. You screw the head (triple o-ring security) like a green force until it makes contact with the batteries. Indestructable and the most powerful backup on the market for its size.
Price: 160 euros.

Nope, i'm not connected to tillytec. Just pretty convinced by that quality stuff.

here is a pic

Neu: Tillytec LED Backuplight W30 » WetShop.de - Tauchshop, Onlineshop=

Marc T · 9th February 2008, 08:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by fletcher)

You should consider a tillytec w30.

This one led backup light is very impressive. In fact, i compared it with the barbolight U-15 (older version with 4 leds luxeon III +/- 300 lumens). The tillytec was much brighter and with a larger beam. It runs with 3 AA batteries. My buddy just came back from red sea and did 15 dives with the same three batteries. It is still running with 50% of the power. His wife liked it so much that she used it as her primary light for wreck dives in Egypt.
There is no switch. You screw the head (triple o-ring security) like a green force until it makes contact with the batteries. Indestructable and the most powerful backup on the market for its size.
Price: 160 euros.

Nope, i'm not connected to tillytec. Just pretty convinced by that quality stuff.

here is a pic

Neu: Tillytec LED Backuplight W30 » WetShop.de - Tauchshop, Onlineshop=

Damned! Just gone for a pair of RBWS 5W backup yesterday!
Hope that this Tillytech is not so good that it seems to bee

Was trusting in the quick improvement of the LED bulb so was sure that the multiple LED solution wasnt the good one ( almost for back up light ) but thats too quick now!!!

Just like for a computer you are now sure to choose an obsolete thing at the very moment you pay for it.

Janos · 9th February 2008, 08:38

I am the devillishly handsome model in Mark's photos and my favourite was the Barbolite. It did throw out an awful lot of light.

I currently have a Heiser as a backup, which is a good torch, however it has a very focused beam. On dives with crap viz I'm glad it's got a focussed beam. On dives with excellent viz I'd prefer something more diffuse. But I always plan for the worst so I'm pleased to have a tight beam.

I do think that all the torches we used are far better than a typical primary light of five years ago. It's great that the technology has improved so much.

I wouldn't have a HID backup, as my backups are treated very roughly.

Janos

fletcher · 9th February 2008, 17:23

Hi marc

Sorry but i'm afraid the w30 is that good. You have the brightness of the xtrem tek but with larger beam, no switch and the possibility to run it with 3 AA alkaline, nimh or nimh rechargeables batteries.

AAAHH, forgive me, i'm a @*$µ£.

7th February 2008, 18:34	#11 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,889	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) So I whipped out my trusty Photon Torpedo and ventured inside the hull of the Justicia. At that very moment I swore by all that is holy and on the life of my children that id never ever by choice dive again with such stupid, wanky, pathetic, feeble piece of crap, pencil beamed rubbish back up torch. Say what you feel mark, get it off your chest That explains it, my backup is just that, if Im on it the dives over. Yours is being used to carry on the dive so of course you want a bigger/brighter candle __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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7th February 2008, 19:26	#12 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,522	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by pieater) For the Barbolite kind of money you might as well have one of these: Salvo HID Torches, 10 watt Hand Held light at divingniknaks 0121 707 5783. Frog, Dirzone, Agir Brokk Scuba Diving Gear Also, will the Salvo Rats and the Scout be represented on the fuller test? I'm guessing they could be borrowed locally I considered this as a torch but ummed and arred about using a HID because of its issues with being turned on and off a lot. As for the Rats and Scout Ill have a word with a man I know ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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7th February 2008, 19:58	#13 (permalink)
Barrie Law RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 726	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) OI Barry want me to add this to my back up test ATB Mark Hi Mark, Let me know when & where to send one for you to test. __________________ Barrie Law Rebreather World Store Supplying the Rebreather World Tel:US +19548403892 Fax:US+19543333792 Tel:EU+442071930496 Fax:EU+442077606344 Mobile+353876880628 Skype:barrielaw Email: barrie@rebreatherworldstore.com
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7th February 2008, 21:14	#14 (permalink)
pieater New Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 47	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I considered this as a torch but ummed and arred about using a HID because of its issues with being turned on and off a lot. How often do you turn on your backups?
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8th February 2008, 08:02	#15 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,194	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT) Say what you feel mark, get it off your chest That explains it, my backup is just that, if Im on it the dives over. Yours is being used to carry on the dive so of course you want a bigger/brighter candle I did my first ever dive on my back up torch __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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8th February 2008, 13:14	#16 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,522	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by pieater) How often do you turn on your backups? I am doing my cave training in Mexico next week (I baught the Barbolight about two months ago) I so I anticipate doing it rather a lot. Obviously not so in normal diving conditions but the course was in my mind at the time. There was also the point that I have confidence in a LED torch just working when i switch it on. Theres a moment of doubt every time i turn on the HID . The bulb or the ballast could have been damaged whilst not in use so the only way to test would be turn it on and off before the dive. An act in its self that can damage it.... You see my quandary ATB MArk __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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9th February 2008, 01:31	#17 (permalink)
fletcher New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: brussels Posts: 25	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup You should consider a tillytec w30. This one led backup light is very impressive. In fact, i compared it with the barbolight U-15 (older version with 4 leds luxeon III +/- 300 lumens). The tillytec was much brighter and with a larger beam. It runs with 3 AA batteries. My buddy just came back from red sea and did 15 dives with the same three batteries. It is still running with 50% of the power. His wife liked it so much that she used it as her primary light for wreck dives in Egypt. There is no switch. You screw the head (triple o-ring security) like a green force until it makes contact with the batteries. Indestructable and the most powerful backup on the market for its size. Price: 160 euros. Nope, i'm not connected to tillytec. Just pretty convinced by that quality stuff. here is a pic Neu: Tillytec LED Backuplight W30 » WetShop.de - Tauchshop, Onlineshop=
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9th February 2008, 08:05	#18 (permalink)
Marc T hell is in the details Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet RB80 / Clone Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FRANCE Carcassonne Posts: 468	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Quote: (Originally Posted by fletcher) You should consider a tillytec w30. This one led backup light is very impressive. In fact, i compared it with the barbolight U-15 (older version with 4 leds luxeon III +/- 300 lumens). The tillytec was much brighter and with a larger beam. It runs with 3 AA batteries. My buddy just came back from red sea and did 15 dives with the same three batteries. It is still running with 50% of the power. His wife liked it so much that she used it as her primary light for wreck dives in Egypt. There is no switch. You screw the head (triple o-ring security) like a green force until it makes contact with the batteries. Indestructable and the most powerful backup on the market for its size. Price: 160 euros. Nope, i'm not connected to tillytec. Just pretty convinced by that quality stuff. here is a pic Neu: Tillytec LED Backuplight W30 » WetShop.de - Tauchshop, Onlineshop= Damned! Just gone for a pair of RBWS 5W backup yesterday! Hope that this Tillytech is not so good that it seems to bee Was trusting in the quick improvement of the LED bulb so was sure that the multiple LED solution wasnt the good one ( almost for back up light ) but thats too quick now!!! Just like for a computer you are now sure to choose an obsolete thing at the very moment you pay for it.
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9th February 2008, 08:38	#19 (permalink)
Janos "Two Sheds" Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Surrey Posts: 594	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup I am the devillishly handsome model in Mark's photos and my favourite was the Barbolite. It did throw out an awful lot of light. I currently have a Heiser as a backup, which is a good torch, however it has a very focused beam. On dives with crap viz I'm glad it's got a focussed beam. On dives with excellent viz I'd prefer something more diffuse. But I always plan for the worst so I'm pleased to have a tight beam. I do think that all the torches we used are far better than a typical primary light of five years ago. It's great that the technology has improved so much. I wouldn't have a HID backup, as my backups are treated very roughly. Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed
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9th February 2008, 17:23	#20 (permalink)
fletcher New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: brussels Posts: 25	Re: Need advices about RBWstore LED backup Hi marc Sorry but i'm afraid the w30 is that good. You have the brightness of the xtrem tek but with larger beam, no switch and the possibility to run it with 3 AA alkaline, nimh or nimh rechargeables batteries. AAAHH, forgive me, i'm a @*$µ£.
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