Neoprene or Membrane

Edvin M · 6th February 2008, 13:36

I started diving in an Typhoon 3mm crushed neoprene suit, efter 200 dives it I recently switched to a Ursuit red Cordura and I am more happy with my new suit than my older one. As for the matter of under suits, I dive all the year around and I am very prone to freeze, right now when the water is about 6 degrees celcious here I have a Weezel extrem+ and 5-6 layer of micro fleece and basic underwears under it and with that I'm... ok. Did'nt really notice much when I switched to the cordura suit.

But what I did'nt like about the neoprene suit is that at deapth it doesnt insulate as much, I had to put alot of extra gas in the wing and suit to stay neutral. But what made me change it was that it have leaked every****ing dive I have done since spring last year and now it got about a cm of glue in the croth and it still leaks. Pretty iritating when you dive for fun but even more when you do 2-3 dives a day for a living.

Mark Chase · 6th February 2008, 19:32

Surley a 3mm crushed Neo suit IS a membrain????

I read about boyancy issues and depth issues with neo suits and I conclude 03 must be truley amazing suits because I dive a 5mm semi compressed lycra and i used to dive an O3 5mm MSF 500 and I used exactly the same amount of lead as I did with my Otter Skin Membrain and I didnt notice any issues with the suit on dives down to my personal max so far of 105m.

Maybe past 105 the crush issues on the Neo realy start to show up

I have only ever dived 03 Neo suits and these isues are non existant so my 2p is get and O3 coz I dont suffer from the above probelems and i definitly benifit from the thermal gain of neopreen.

ATB

Mark

Pat Coughlan · 6th February 2008, 20:20

Id second the posts of Beanie and Mark, Othree make excellent suits with excellent product suport. I have two, I bought my first one 12 years ago -those were the days when they only took out small adverts in the back of Diver!

I couldnt comment of membrane never dived in one

Pat

Shaunzxr · 10th February 2008, 20:56

I went from Membrane to O three
Don't regret it
A bit pithed about having to put on another 4 Kilo though

That for me was the only drawback

Don't think I am any warmer, I used to wear thinsulate and long johns under the membrane
Now I wear zerotherm artics under the O three

If I was colder in either suit I just put more on underneath

m_lakes · 10th February 2008, 21:47

Another vote for Othree here! I've a MTM Ri2/100 for the last three years and cannot recommend it highly enough!

taza · 24th February 2008, 20:14

Half Price DUI TLS350 Drysuit

Saw this advertised, are thy any good for UK diving or should I stick to O'Three Ri 2-100

DUI TLS350 Drysuit (Half Price) at Deep Blue Dive

My head hurts

JOHNSNR · 24th February 2008, 20:59

HI
going to London look at the OTTER stand 5 of the 9 speakers dive them
good for all types of diving done 100 mtrs on the britannic
in a bitannic and the VICTORIA

diverreb · 24th February 2008, 22:14

I dive primarily in cold water here in the US (6c and up). I've used a few DUI Crushed Neoprene suits over the years and found them to be very comfortable. A few years ago when it became time to replace the most recent suit I found that, as a previous poster had mentioned, that the prices were altogether out of line. They have gone crazy with their pricing.... even more so lately.

I switched over to a Bare (made in Canada) Crushed Neoprene suit. It's less than half the price of the DUI and is a very well made suit. It's not quite as good as the DUI, but the differences don't come close to justifying the price spread.

Richie

***EBT*** · 24th February 2008, 22:39

to be fair, john may have a slight bias..... but I have to say I dive an otter nowadays. I've got an O3 RI and an otter (in their stretchy skin material). Both are good suits, the downside of neo is its weight/drying time. On the upside, its warmer/harder wearing.

Horses for courses

6th February 2008, 13:36	#11 (permalink)
Edvin M New Member Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lysekil, Sweden Posts: 87	Re: Neoprene or Membrane I started diving in an Typhoon 3mm crushed neoprene suit, efter 200 dives it I recently switched to a Ursuit red Cordura and I am more happy with my new suit than my older one. As for the matter of under suits, I dive all the year around and I am very prone to freeze, right now when the water is about 6 degrees celcious here I have a Weezel extrem+ and 5-6 layer of micro fleece and basic underwears under it and with that I'm... ok. Did'nt really notice much when I switched to the cordura suit. But what I did'nt like about the neoprene suit is that at deapth it doesnt insulate as much, I had to put alot of extra gas in the wing and suit to stay neutral. But what made me change it was that it have leaked every****ing dive I have done since spring last year and now it got about a cm of glue in the croth and it still leaks. Pretty iritating when you dive for fun but even more when you do 2-3 dives a day for a living.
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6th February 2008, 19:32	#12 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,539	Re: Neoprene or Membrane Surley a 3mm crushed Neo suit IS a membrain???? I read about boyancy issues and depth issues with neo suits and I conclude 03 must be truley amazing suits because I dive a 5mm semi compressed lycra and i used to dive an O3 5mm MSF 500 and I used exactly the same amount of lead as I did with my Otter Skin Membrain and I didnt notice any issues with the suit on dives down to my personal max so far of 105m. Maybe past 105 the crush issues on the Neo realy start to show up I have only ever dived 03 Neo suits and these isues are non existant so my 2p is get and O3 coz I dont suffer from the above probelems and i definitly benifit from the thermal gain of neopreen. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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6th February 2008, 20:20	#13 (permalink)
Pat Coughlan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ireland- County Mayo Posts: 80	Re: Neoprene or Membrane Id second the posts of Beanie and Mark, Othree make excellent suits with excellent product suport. I have two, I bought my first one 12 years ago -those were the days when they only took out small adverts in the back of Diver! I couldnt comment of membrane never dived in one Pat
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10th February 2008, 20:56	#14 (permalink)
Shaunzxr Inspo Luver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK, midlands Posts: 87	Re: Neoprene or Membrane I went from Membrane to O three Don't regret it A bit pithed about having to put on another 4 Kilo though That for me was the only drawback Don't think I am any warmer, I used to wear thinsulate and long johns under the membrane Now I wear zerotherm artics under the O three If I was colder in either suit I just put more on underneath
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10th February 2008, 21:47	#15 (permalink)
m_lakes New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 24	Re: Neoprene or Membrane Another vote for Othree here! I've a MTM Ri2/100 for the last three years and cannot recommend it highly enough!
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24th February 2008, 20:14	#16 (permalink)
taza New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Warrington UK Posts: 70	Re: Neoprene or Membrane Half Price DUI TLS350 Drysuit Saw this advertised, are thy any good for UK diving or should I stick to O'Three Ri 2-100 DUI TLS350 Drysuit (Half Price) at Deep Blue Dive My head hurts
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24th February 2008, 22:14	#18 (permalink)
diverreb DE/MD/NJ Wreck Diver Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 556	Re: Neoprene or Membrane I dive primarily in cold water here in the US (6c and up). I've used a few DUI Crushed Neoprene suits over the years and found them to be very comfortable. A few years ago when it became time to replace the most recent suit I found that, as a previous poster had mentioned, that the prices were altogether out of line. They have gone crazy with their pricing.... even more so lately. I switched over to a Bare (made in Canada) Crushed Neoprene suit. It's less than half the price of the DUI and is a very well made suit. It's not quite as good as the DUI, but the differences don't come close to justifying the price spread. Richie
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24th February 2008, 22:39	#19 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,897	Re: Neoprene or Membrane to be fair, john may have a slight bias..... but I have to say I dive an otter nowadays. I've got an O3 RI and an otter (in their stretchy skin material). Both are good suits, the downside of neo is its weight/drying time. On the upside, its warmer/harder wearing. Horses for courses __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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