Vr3 Vs. X1

PacketSniffer

Frankie,

You have seen my review haven't you? I'm not saying my review proves it's bullet-proof. I just wanted to make sure you had the opportunity to read it.

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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat.

PacketSniffer

I don't think you guys are truly seeing this for what it is; reducing a failure point. It's highly unlikely you will have a battery or battery compartment failure while diving. It's potted. Why trade this for convenience of replacing a battery?

Yes. We don't really know how long the battery will live before replacement is required. But, when it finally does die, I'll cross that bridge when I get there. With the way technology is progressing, there will probably be something even better out at that time anyway and maybe I'll jump to that. I think we all know by now that "buying the last dive computer you will ever need" is really not plausible. In the mean time, I look forward to trouble-free diving and all of the other benefits of the X1.

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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat.

Frankie Pellegrino

Thanks for the review...I never read it before.
The X1 has my attention!
Please post any future pros and cons to the computers performance

All the Best Frankie

Mdemon

I have to say, I totally agree with you. It seems the battery config is what people are latching onto for something to say. In a way, that's great because if that's the biggest problem then we're onto a winner, however it's quite frustrating when people seem oblivious to the great screen and other features and focus on a single hypothetical issue which may not even be relevant.

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www.southwestmafia.com

It's as easy as abc;

a) "Carry adequate bailout"

b) "If in doubt, bail out"

c) "Always know your PO2"

If you find that hard, stick to crochet.

"Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"

mbelair

That's the way I see this battery issue.

If it lasts for half the claimed time (five years versus ten), the hardware will start being obsolete. By that time, there will be something newer, better out there that will want to trade our old X1 for. Maybe it will be the X11 or some other computer who knows.

How many of you REALLY think that their rebreather will last forever as it is now? Why would you expect that of your computer?

Look at the first versions of the VR3 versus today’s version? What is still up to date in that older computer, the casing?

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mverick

I wouldn't mind the potted battery if it was at least factory replaceable. But from my understanding. When the battery dies. The computer is an $1700 paperweight. No way to change it. Claimed 10 years worth of use on the battery but I've never seen one last past 5 years. Even if it did last 10 years. I'd want to be able to replace it.

PacketSniffer

The only thing I can say is to stay tuned. It may happen. There is allegedly some discussions at Liquivision to provide a solution.

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Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat.

mverick

That's also my problem with it. If the X1 dies you're not going to be able to sell it to anyone on EBAY. LOL.

I still use my OLD Cochran Nemesis 2a Nitrox units. Have 3 of them. And they were considered junk. Mine never had problems. All 3 work fine.

Problem is, It's worthless when the battery dies. And a $200 bottom timer I'm not to worried about. At $1700 I'm worried I won't at least get $500 to trade for a new computer. Oh, And one of my choosing. Not back to the manufacturer for a credit.

I'm not a Newest Greatest person. I just want one that works. And, I'll keep it.

I do recognize the screen is great. The ability to add programs is great. And in 5 to 10 years. It's a Paper weight.

Complaining about battery problems? Uh, why is it all the other computer manufacturers don't have problems. Only the HS and VR? Uh, engineer a better mousetrap.

Anyway my Meg is over 5 years old and it's still worth a whole lot with that old Shearwater on it. LOL...

I would like to see a rechargeable user replaceable battery. But at the minimum. A replaceable battery. Or, knock the price down to a throwaway unit price.

But it looks like a great computer.

fltekdiver

I cant find what it goes for?

Any ideas US dollars?

UWSojourner

I think they're around $1550 ... maybe a bit more. You have to buy deco software which you can get from V-Planner VPM & VPM-B dive decompression software