Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest

womble · 6th September 2007, 22:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

The vest in itself is nice. But the batterycanister is the worst POS ever designed.
In our group we are 3 that uses this kit. And had 11 floods and electronics failures. I'm going on my 3 set of electronics under warrenty and have no illusions that it will be the last set I need

We all have the latest model of canisters, black body with two axial O-rings.
The early model with grey body just needed to hear the weather forcast, then they would leak.

Seriously in need of improvement.

I agree. Fabulous product, other than the battery pack.

I use mine for long dives, if I get cold on deco. I plug it in at the 6m mark if I'm a bit cold or damp. . . . Nice and toasty

I've only had mine 3 months or so, but have had to return 2 battery packs. The first leaked and the second just didnt work!! Third one seems ok (touch wood).

They have bought out a very high tech solution to the weakness in the wire - a right angle hard plastic sleeve that you fit over the wire where it comes thro the drysuit!

For £400 you would expect better

Amusingly, one of my mates managed to electrocute himself twice !!

jitka · 7th September 2007, 00:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by tflaris)

I saw something similiar at Golem Gear which was a heated vest being fed by an umibical cord from the light canister. Looks cools and has an attachment point which connects through the inflator on the drysuit.

ADM's online magazine

http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com...zineissue1.pdf

p83

Yes - Thanks for the link; the Golem Gear heating Q-Vest is on page 83 in the above mentioned download of the first E-Zine issue.
The classic external, waist mounted battery pack powers your primary light and when cold, mostly while on deco you can plug it into your heating vest.

Come and see the Q-Vest at Dema.

Cheers,

Jitka
Golem Gear, Inc.

lof · 7th September 2007, 02:51

We are in the final stages of testing.
The Q-Vest will be introduced at DEMA.
Come visit us at booth #1672.
There will be a lot of new exciting items to see.

You can see more details about the Q-Vest and EQ-System here
Golem Gear, Q-Vest

Drmike · 7th September 2007, 03:42

Hey Jakub, whats the duration of the battery pack for the vest? Can larger packs be used?

lof · 7th September 2007, 15:48

Hi Mike,

The Q-vest uses 60W at full power setting. It has continuous power output setting from 0 to full with three click stops along the way to let you feel where you are on the scale.
So with 60W, the included 8A/h battery will last more than hour and half on full power. People generally do not run it on full power all the time. They start low at the start of the deco and then increase output as they progress through their deco obligation.
You being an engineer, I am sure you can calculate how big a battery pack you need for your dives

Or let me know what you need and we can build it for you.
Since the Q-vest has a wet connector, you could also use several regular battery packs and swap them out as they run down. That would give you some redundancy and they could be staged. Reduced bulk could also be an advantage.

***Decodiver*** · 7th September 2007, 16:14

Jakub, I am very interested, what is the price?

The duration of your vest outperforms the Typhoon.

Cheers,

Dave.

PS any joy on a Golem Gear OC/DSV HUD mount for the Shearwater?

Drmike · 7th September 2007, 20:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

Since the Q-vest has a wet connector, you could also use several regular battery packs and swap them out as they run down. That would give you some redundancy and they could be staged. Reduced bulk could also be an advantage.

thats exacty what i was thinking - need something in the 5hr+range 7 degC water

jaap · 14th September 2007, 09:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

The electronics that regulates the temperature of the vest is potted in the lid of the batterycanister. If you deside to bypass those electronics by using another kind of batterycanister the vest gets really warm... Possibly giving you a burn.

Hi

Are you sure that the temperature regulating mechanism is in the lid?

I was thinking that the vest itself regulates the power demand?

The way I thought it worked was that the vest is made from a material that dramatically changes its conductivity when heated. So given that the vest is fed with the designed voltage it automatically lowers it power demand when it reaches its proper operating temperature.

Otherwise it seems a bit odd that the Ice Breaker vest is also sold alone with out the battery canister?

Perhaps your experience with a vest going really hot was simply from supplying a higher than designed input voltage (like 14.4 instead of 12 V)?

I'm interested in upgrading my home built heating system with this vest (or if I can find a source for these self regulating heating pads) so it would be nice to know which way it is.

Mark Chase · 14th September 2007, 09:45

One of my M8s has one and he uses a Mettlesub torch with a massive battery that runs the torch and the vest. He has a second battery on the deco bar and he plugs into that for long deco hangs.

I believe they have both modified the power connector to the suit. Ill get some details about the mods and post them later.

ATB

Mark

jaap · 14th September 2007, 10:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

We are in the final stages of testing.
The Q-Vest will be introduced at DEMA.
Come visit us at booth #1672.
There will be a lot of new exciting items to see.

You can see more details about the Q-Vest and EQ-System here
Golem Gear, Q-Vest

Nice touch with the bulkhead adapter! Have some green

I did a slimmer poor mans version of that some years ago:
FOTO

You plan on selling this adapter independantly? If you do so either without any hole for the gland (so that one can tap a suitable thread) or pehaps with some gland that fits an EO-cord (like subcon) I would be interested.

That thing could be useful for Rebreather-applications too...

6th September 2007, 22:27	#11 (permalink)
womble Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 196	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) The vest in itself is nice. But the batterycanister is the worst POS ever designed. In our group we are 3 that uses this kit. And had 11 floods and electronics failures. I'm going on my 3 set of electronics under warrenty and have no illusions that it will be the last set I need We all have the latest model of canisters, black body with two axial O-rings. The early model with grey body just needed to hear the weather forcast, then they would leak. Seriously in need of improvement. I agree. Fabulous product, other than the battery pack. I use mine for long dives, if I get cold on deco. I plug it in at the 6m mark if I'm a bit cold or damp. . . . Nice and toasty I've only had mine 3 months or so, but have had to return 2 battery packs. The first leaked and the second just didnt work!! Third one seems ok (touch wood). They have bought out a very high tech solution to the weakness in the wire - a right angle hard plastic sleeve that you fit over the wire where it comes thro the drysuit! For £400 you would expect better Amusingly, one of my mates managed to electrocute himself twice !! __________________ "What could possibly go wrong?? . . "
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7th September 2007, 00:40	#12 (permalink)
jitka Cave Meg Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 37	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Quote: (Originally Posted by tflaris) I saw something similiar at Golem Gear which was a heated vest being fed by an umibical cord from the light canister. Looks cools and has an attachment point which connects through the inflator on the drysuit. ADM's online magazine http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com...zineissue1.pdf p83 Yes - Thanks for the link; the Golem Gear heating Q-Vest is on page 83 in the above mentioned download of the first E-Zine issue. The classic external, waist mounted battery pack powers your primary light and when cold, mostly while on deco you can plug it into your heating vest. Come and see the Q-Vest at Dema. Cheers, Jitka Golem Gear, Inc.
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7th September 2007, 02:51	#13 (permalink)
lof RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 480	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest We are in the final stages of testing. The Q-Vest will be introduced at DEMA. Come visit us at booth #1672. There will be a lot of new exciting items to see. You can see more details about the Q-Vest and EQ-System here Golem Gear, Q-Vest __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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7th September 2007, 03:42	#14 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Hey Jakub, whats the duration of the battery pack for the vest? Can larger packs be used? __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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7th September 2007, 15:48	#15 (permalink)
lof RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 480	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Hi Mike, The Q-vest uses 60W at full power setting. It has continuous power output setting from 0 to full with three click stops along the way to let you feel where you are on the scale. So with 60W, the included 8A/h battery will last more than hour and half on full power. People generally do not run it on full power all the time. They start low at the start of the deco and then increase output as they progress through their deco obligation. You being an engineer, I am sure you can calculate how big a battery pack you need for your dives Or let me know what you need and we can build it for you. Since the Q-vest has a wet connector, you could also use several regular battery packs and swap them out as they run down. That would give you some redundancy and they could be staged. Reduced bulk could also be an advantage. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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7th September 2007, 16:14	#16 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,181	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Jakub, I am very interested, what is the price? The duration of your vest outperforms the Typhoon. Cheers, Dave. PS any joy on a Golem Gear OC/DSV HUD mount for the Shearwater? __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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7th September 2007, 20:23	#17 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) Since the Q-vest has a wet connector, you could also use several regular battery packs and swap them out as they run down. That would give you some redundancy and they could be staged. Reduced bulk could also be an advantage. thats exacty what i was thinking - need something in the 5hr+range 7 degC water __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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14th September 2007, 09:26	#18 (permalink)
jaap Normal people worry me Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 451	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) The electronics that regulates the temperature of the vest is potted in the lid of the batterycanister. If you deside to bypass those electronics by using another kind of batterycanister the vest gets really warm... Possibly giving you a burn. Hi Are you sure that the temperature regulating mechanism is in the lid? I was thinking that the vest itself regulates the power demand? The way I thought it worked was that the vest is made from a material that dramatically changes its conductivity when heated. So given that the vest is fed with the designed voltage it automatically lowers it power demand when it reaches its proper operating temperature. Otherwise it seems a bit odd that the Ice Breaker vest is also sold alone with out the battery canister? Perhaps your experience with a vest going really hot was simply from supplying a higher than designed input voltage (like 14.4 instead of 12 V)? I'm interested in upgrading my home built heating system with this vest (or if I can find a source for these self regulating heating pads) so it would be nice to know which way it is. __________________ My initials: JAAP
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14th September 2007, 09:45	#19 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,700	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest One of my M8s has one and he uses a Mettlesub torch with a massive battery that runs the torch and the vest. He has a second battery on the deco bar and he plugs into that for long deco hangs. I believe they have both modified the power connector to the suit. Ill get some details about the mods and post them later. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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14th September 2007, 10:09	#20 (permalink)
jaap Normal people worry me Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 451	Re: Typhoon Ice Breaker Heated Vest Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) We are in the final stages of testing. The Q-Vest will be introduced at DEMA. Come visit us at booth #1672. There will be a lot of new exciting items to see. You can see more details about the Q-Vest and EQ-System here Golem Gear, Q-Vest Nice touch with the bulkhead adapter! Have some green I did a slimmer poor mans version of that some years ago: FOTO You plan on selling this adapter independantly? If you do so either without any hole for the gland (so that one can tap a suitable thread) or pehaps with some gland that fits an EO-cord (like subcon) I would be interested. That thing could be useful for Rebreather-applications too... __________________ My initials: JAAP
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