Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!)

**DeepBlueInnovation** · 5th January 2007, 05:02

Ok folks, I am getting more than a little desperate and realise I am clutching at straws but I am looking to beg, borrow or buy a working Prism secondary.

I started my training in November, only to find that the secondary on the unit I am buying is not working. Now while I am assured that the problem relates to a manufacturing issue (yes the unit is second hand) and should be replaced under warranty I have not had an outcome from SMI, despite the secondary being in their possession for approximately one month. After speaking with Jason from Sub Sea Suppy it doesn't look like he will be able to provide me with a tasty digital display for a while due to supply issues with housings, so...

If anyone is interested in preferably selling, but otherwise hiring me a working Prism secondary I would be most grateful and would express said gratefulness in the currency of the realm, or even trade camels, oxen or hill-billy relatives if that is more your thing

pm me or email on ben@deepblueinnovation.com

Cheers,

Ben.

Still innovative, a little bit blue, but not quite so deep at the moment

Chris · 5th January 2007, 05:08

Ohh don't worry Ben you only have another month to wait

. Well thats how long they took to get mine back to me.
Give Simon at Divetek Oz Home page a call
He is not very attractive but may well have one you can borrow.

Cheers
Chriso

Steve · 5th January 2007, 05:09

Another option may be the Sartek display or a Shearwater but I have no clue if they will work with a PRISM?

silent running · 5th January 2007, 05:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by DeepBlueInnovation)

Ok folks, I am getting more than a little desperate and realise I am clutching at straws but I am looking to beg, borrow or buy a working Prism secondary.

I started my training in November, only to find that the secondary on the unit I am buying is not working. Now while I am assured that the problem relates to a manufacturing issue (yes the unit is second hand) and should be replaced under warranty I have not had an outcome from SMI, despite the secondary being in their possession for approximately one month. After speaking with Jason from Sub Sea Suppy it doesn't look like he will be able to provide me with a tasty digital display for a while due to supply issues with housings, so...

If anyone is interested in preferably selling, but otherwise hiring me a working Prism secondary I would be most grateful and would express said gratefulness in the currency of the realm, or even trade camels, oxen or hill-billy relatives if that is more your thing

pm me or email on ben@deepblueinnovation.com

Cheers,

Ben.

Still innovative, a little bit blue, but not quite so deep at the moment

Ben, it is customary up here for the instructor to have a full spares kit. Mine does and he regularly lends me bits and pcs when I travel so I don't have to buy them, including his spare 2dry. Does your instructor have one?

Chris · 5th January 2007, 05:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Ben, it is customary up here for the instructor to have a full spares kit. Mine does and he regularly lends me bits and pcs when I travel so I don't have to buy them, including his spare 2dry. Does your instructor have one?

Hi Andy
I believe the instructors Spare Secondary is also at SMI for repairs

Cheers
Chriso

**DeepBlueInnovation** · 5th January 2007, 05:39

Hi Guys, thanks for the speedy replies

Steve is going to send me Simon's mobile as the listed one on his site leads to a company he left four weeks ago... thanks for the suggestion Chris.

Hi Andy, Luke does keep a fairly extensive spares kit, however the secondary on his Prism isn't working either at the moment - I can't remember exactly what the problem was, and the only other unit that was in this part of the world was sold a couple of months ago.

Cheers,

Ben.

**Dave Sutton** · 5th January 2007, 13:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by DeepBlueInnovation)

Ok folks, I am getting more than a little desperate and realise I am clutching at straws but I am looking to beg, borrow or buy a working Prism secondary.

Contact Subsea Systems in Australia (local for ya!), get one of their *SUPERB* digital secondaries, and forget about it for the rest of your life.

Look here: Subsea Systems - Rebreather Solutions

Their Prism secondary is essentially the same as the Mark-15 secondary that I use, and it's magic. Ought to be in stock. HIGHLY recommended.

Those analog meter secondaries are fragile and obsolete. Trash them.

Dave

***caveseeker7*** · 5th January 2007, 13:39

Dave, Colkan uses a version of the digital secondary from Jason/SubSeaSystems that Ben referred to. He'll offer a version for the PRISM that includes setpoint info, but it isn't available quite yet.

Chris · 5th January 2007, 15:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Contact Subsea Systems in Australia (local for ya!), get one of their *SUPERB* digital secondaries, and forget about it for the rest of your life.
Dave

Dave
Jason does not have any PRISM Secondaries in stock, and no ETA on when he will. We have been trying for 12 months to get them from him and stil no joy.

Cheers
Chriso

**Dave Sutton** · 5th January 2007, 21:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Dave
Jason does not have any PRISM Secondaries in stock, and no ETA on when he will. We have been trying for 12 months to get them from him and stil no joy.

Cheers
Chriso

It's the SAME as the Mark-15 with reversed polarity to the meter from the center section. Ought to be a piece of cake to make/modify from a Mark-15 one. But with that said, a Mark-15 analog secondary with the correct cable and the leads to the analog meter simply unsoldered and reversed will work too. This is all based on what I know from having owned and dived for years the prototype modified CCR-1000 with their (SM's Prism) electronics pod installed. AFAIK the Prism is exactly the same electronically as that CCR-1000 (SM's electronics test bed rig).

As a very quick and dirty substitute, Suggest one of Mark Monro's boards in a cylinder tube. Mark came to my place and did a Mark-15 study and made boards for a 3 cell tube-secondary. Someplace I have a board, but he ought to be able to sell you one. The board, a piece of tube and some end caps from Pat Duffy, and a cable and an hour ought to produce a secondary. Read above and reverse the input polarity and go for it.

Dave

Dave

5th January 2007, 05:02	#1 (permalink)
DeepBlueInnovation Learning to Kiss Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 368	Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Ok folks, I am getting more than a little desperate and realise I am clutching at straws but I am looking to beg, borrow or buy a working Prism secondary. I started my training in November, only to find that the secondary on the unit I am buying is not working. Now while I am assured that the problem relates to a manufacturing issue (yes the unit is second hand) and should be replaced under warranty I have not had an outcome from SMI, despite the secondary being in their possession for approximately one month. After speaking with Jason from Sub Sea Suppy it doesn't look like he will be able to provide me with a tasty digital display for a while due to supply issues with housings, so... If anyone is interested in preferably selling, but otherwise hiring me a working Prism secondary I would be most grateful and would express said gratefulness in the currency of the realm, or even trade camels, oxen or hill-billy relatives if that is more your thing pm me or email on ben@deepblueinnovation.com Cheers, Ben. Still innovative, a little bit blue, but not quite so deep at the moment
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5th January 2007, 05:09	#3 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,126	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Another option may be the Sartek display or a Shearwater but I have no clue if they will work with a PRISM? __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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5th January 2007, 05:27	#4 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,873	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Quote: (Originally Posted by DeepBlueInnovation) Ok folks, I am getting more than a little desperate and realise I am clutching at straws but I am looking to beg, borrow or buy a working Prism secondary. I started my training in November, only to find that the secondary on the unit I am buying is not working. Now while I am assured that the problem relates to a manufacturing issue (yes the unit is second hand) and should be replaced under warranty I have not had an outcome from SMI, despite the secondary being in their possession for approximately one month. After speaking with Jason from Sub Sea Suppy it doesn't look like he will be able to provide me with a tasty digital display for a while due to supply issues with housings, so... If anyone is interested in preferably selling, but otherwise hiring me a working Prism secondary I would be most grateful and would express said gratefulness in the currency of the realm, or even trade camels, oxen or hill-billy relatives if that is more your thing pm me or email on ben@deepblueinnovation.com Cheers, Ben. Still innovative, a little bit blue, but not quite so deep at the moment Ben, it is customary up here for the instructor to have a full spares kit. Mine does and he regularly lends me bits and pcs when I travel so I don't have to buy them, including his spare 2dry. Does your instructor have one?
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5th January 2007, 05:36	#5 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 615	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Ben, it is customary up here for the instructor to have a full spares kit. Mine does and he regularly lends me bits and pcs when I travel so I don't have to buy them, including his spare 2dry. Does your instructor have one? Hi Andy I believe the instructors Spare Secondary is also at SMI for repairs Cheers Chriso __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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5th January 2007, 05:39	#6 (permalink)
DeepBlueInnovation Learning to Kiss Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 368	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Hi Guys, thanks for the speedy replies Steve is going to send me Simon's mobile as the listed one on his site leads to a company he left four weeks ago... thanks for the suggestion Chris. Hi Andy, Luke does keep a fairly extensive spares kit, however the secondary on his Prism isn't working either at the moment - I can't remember exactly what the problem was, and the only other unit that was in this part of the world was sold a couple of months ago. Cheers, Ben.
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5th January 2007, 13:31	#7 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,905	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Quote: (Originally Posted by DeepBlueInnovation) Ok folks, I am getting more than a little desperate and realise I am clutching at straws but I am looking to beg, borrow or buy a working Prism secondary. Contact Subsea Systems in Australia (local for ya!), get one of their SUPERB digital secondaries, and forget about it for the rest of your life. Look here: Subsea Systems - Rebreather Solutions Their Prism secondary is essentially the same as the Mark-15 secondary that I use, and it's magic. Ought to be in stock. HIGHLY recommended. Those analog meter secondaries are fragile and obsolete. Trash them. Dave __________________ "Silent Diving with No Bubbles and No Politics".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 5th January 2007 at 13:38.
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5th January 2007, 13:39	#8 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,552	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Dave, Colkan uses a version of the digital secondary from Jason/SubSeaSystems that Ben referred to. He'll offer a version for the PRISM that includes setpoint info, but it isn't available quite yet. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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5th January 2007, 15:25	#9 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 615	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Contact Subsea Systems in Australia (local for ya!), get one of their SUPERB digital secondaries, and forget about it for the rest of your life. Dave Dave Jason does not have any PRISM Secondaries in stock, and no ETA on when he will. We have been trying for 12 months to get them from him and stil no joy. Cheers Chriso __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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5th January 2007, 21:00	#10 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,905	Re: Desperately Wanted Prism Secondary (working!) Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) Dave Jason does not have any PRISM Secondaries in stock, and no ETA on when he will. We have been trying for 12 months to get them from him and stil no joy. Cheers Chriso It's the SAME as the Mark-15 with reversed polarity to the meter from the center section. Ought to be a piece of cake to make/modify from a Mark-15 one. But with that said, a Mark-15 analog secondary with the correct cable and the leads to the analog meter simply unsoldered and reversed will work too. This is all based on what I know from having owned and dived for years the prototype modified CCR-1000 with their (SM's Prism) electronics pod installed. AFAIK the Prism is exactly the same electronically as that CCR-1000 (SM's electronics test bed rig). As a very quick and dirty substitute, Suggest one of Mark Monro's boards in a cylinder tube. Mark came to my place and did a Mark-15 study and made boards for a 3 cell tube-secondary. Someplace I have a board, but he ought to be able to sell you one. The board, a piece of tube and some end caps from Pat Duffy, and a cable and an hour ought to produce a secondary. Read above and reverse the input polarity and go for it. Dave Dave __________________ "Silent Diving with No Bubbles and No Politics".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 5th January 2007 at 21:04.
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