Anyone sell me a used working paragon ?

Numpty diver · 16th April 2008, 06:35

Hi i Need a Paragon 2nd stage to replace mine while it goes off for service.
Any for sale prefferably serviced.
Dean

Ben Field · 16th April 2008, 07:28

They don't work new, how could a used one be expected work?

Bin the Paragon, save the service charge and fit anything else IMO.

lizardland · 16th April 2008, 07:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

They don't work new, how could a used one be expected work?

Bin the Paragon, save the service charge and fit anything else IMO.

Couldn't agree more. If it hasn't gone wrong now then it will eventually. I'm still not convinced the Mares is the way forward though...

Anyway, I bought a Draeger DSV mouthpiece off ebay to keep in my toolbox in times of the KISS DSV being knackered. It's quite handy to have.

Dutchy · 16th April 2008, 08:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

I'm still not convinced the Mares is the way forward though....

Would you care to elaborate on your Mares doubts? I have one that breathes like a charm and have nothing but good experiences with the OC stuff. Are your doubts related to reliability or performance in the normal target range of the KISS?

Numpty diver · 16th April 2008, 08:25

Hi yak
How did you sort the flow direction out on the Dræger mouthpiece ?

Ive had no problems at all with the paragon, its light efficant and works well !.
It has been serviced by qualified tec though ..oouch
Dean

**PhilSiswick** · 16th April 2008, 08:26

I've got one that was working when I took it off a couple of months ago. Never had any problems with it in the year that I used it. PM me if you're interested.

Cheers,

lizardland · 16th April 2008, 09:14

Hi Dean,

Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver)

Hi yak
How did you sort the flow direction out on the Dræger mouthpiece ?

Ive had no problems at all with the paragon, its light efficant and works well !.
It has been serviced by qualified tec though ..oouch
Dean

I've only just made the connection that it was you I bought it from! The booster is tempting!

I can't recall which way up I mounted it in the end, I needed flow in one direction for my homebuild and the opposite for my KISS. IIRC, it was OK for the KISS but had to go upside down on the homebuild. I need to have a go at mounting it in the CK hoses as the FGT hoses are a much smaller bore and the WOB is noticeable. It is a nice little bit of kit to keep for emergency use though.

Cheers,

Stuart

RAL · 16th April 2008, 09:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver)

Hi i Need a Paragon 2nd stage to replace mine while it goes off for service.
Any for sale prefferably serviced.
Dean

Working Paragon is a oxymoron. It's biggest claim to fame is having earned the much coveted " Unsafe at any depth" award from Rodales Magazine.
You may have lucked out @ got one of the golden turds but I sure would not bet my life on it. There is more than one way to replace it. Modify a good reg to fit, several on here have done so with some fine regs, get the Jetsam/Proton upgrade or get a Golum gear BOV. It does not matter how you do it, just do it. Replace the Paragon, it is a sneeky little bastard that will let you down just when you need it the most

Do a Google search "Mother of all reg review".

RAL

UKSteve · 16th April 2008, 09:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

Do a Google search "Mother of all regs review".

RAL

Having tried.. Its actually "Mother of All Reg Review"!!! Its here

The Mother of All Reg Reviews - Scuba Diving Magazine

Steve

Numpty diver · 16th April 2008, 11:15

Hi Stuart
Small world hope reg was ok ?

No bids on e-bay yet, bargain for someone with a bit of time .
Have you had problems with the mares reg ?
Dean

16th April 2008, 06:35	#1 (permalink)
Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 198	Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Hi i Need a Paragon 2nd stage to replace mine while it goes off for service. Any for sale prefferably serviced. Dean
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Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,482	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? They don't work new, how could a used one be expected work? Bin the Paragon, save the service charge and fit anything else IMO. __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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16th April 2008, 07:50	#3 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,187	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) They don't work new, how could a used one be expected work? Bin the Paragon, save the service charge and fit anything else IMO. Couldn't agree more. If it hasn't gone wrong now then it will eventually. I'm still not convinced the Mares is the way forward though... Anyway, I bought a Draeger DSV mouthpiece off ebay to keep in my toolbox in times of the KISS DSV being knackered. It's quite handy to have. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 699	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) I'm still not convinced the Mares is the way forward though.... Would you care to elaborate on your Mares doubts? I have one that breathes like a charm and have nothing but good experiences with the OC stuff. Are your doubts related to reliability or performance in the normal target range of the KISS? __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007
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16th April 2008, 08:25	#5 (permalink)
Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 198	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Hi yak How did you sort the flow direction out on the Dræger mouthpiece ? Ive had no problems at all with the paragon, its light efficant and works well !. It has been serviced by qualified tec though ..oouch Dean
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PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 884	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? I've got one that was working when I took it off a couple of months ago. Never had any problems with it in the year that I used it. PM me if you're interested. Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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16th April 2008, 09:14	#7 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,187	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Hi Dean, Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver) Hi yak How did you sort the flow direction out on the Dræger mouthpiece ? Ive had no problems at all with the paragon, its light efficant and works well !. It has been serviced by qualified tec though ..oouch Dean I've only just made the connection that it was you I bought it from! The booster is tempting! I can't recall which way up I mounted it in the end, I needed flow in one direction for my homebuild and the opposite for my KISS. IIRC, it was OK for the KISS but had to go upside down on the homebuild. I need to have a go at mounting it in the CK hoses as the FGT hoses are a much smaller bore and the WOB is noticeable. It is a nice little bit of kit to keep for emergency use though. Cheers, Stuart __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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16th April 2008, 09:18	#8 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 374	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver) Hi i Need a Paragon 2nd stage to replace mine while it goes off for service. Any for sale prefferably serviced. Dean Working Paragon is a oxymoron. It's biggest claim to fame is having earned the much coveted " Unsafe at any depth" award from Rodales Magazine. You may have lucked out @ got one of the golden turds but I sure would not bet my life on it. There is more than one way to replace it. Modify a good reg to fit, several on here have done so with some fine regs, get the Jetsam/Proton upgrade or get a Golum gear BOV. It does not matter how you do it, just do it. Replace the Paragon, it is a sneeky little bastard that will let you down just when you need it the most Do a Google search "Mother of all reg review". RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you. Last edited by RAL : 16th April 2008 at 12:39.
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16th April 2008, 09:56	#9 (permalink)
UKSteve Still a novice... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Weymouth, UK Posts: 557	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) Do a Google search "Mother of all regs review". RAL Having tried.. Its actually "Mother of All Reg Review"!!! Its here The Mother of All Reg Reviews - Scuba Diving Magazine Steve
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Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 198	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Hi Stuart Small world hope reg was ok ? No bids on e-bay yet, bargain for someone with a bit of time . Have you had problems with the mares reg ? Dean Last edited by Numpty diver : 16th April 2008 at 11:18.
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