Anyone sell me a used working paragon ?

Ben Field · 19th April 2008, 09:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by pieater)

They may be shite, but I have two absolutely brand spanky new, utterly untouched by human hand examples in the loft. Should anyone want one, a PM will suffice.

Martin

Dave Sutton will buy one- he promised to toast one with a jet during a static motor test for us last year and is yet to come good on his promise!

I have an old one here- anyone like to suggest a method of destruction? I will happily YouTube the results

I have a large Industrial Shears at work... I figure cutting it in half with several 100 tonnes force would be pretty impressive or I could put it in a blender?

lizardland · 19th April 2008, 09:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Dave Sutton will buy one- he promised to toast one with a jet during a static motor test for us last year and is yet to come good on his promise!

I have an old one here- anyone like to suggest a method of destruction? I will happily YouTube the results

I have a large Industrial Shears at work... I figure cutting it in half with several 100 tonnes force would be pretty impressive or I could put it in a blender?

I have one as well. I'd been thinking of building a potato cannon for a while and this could provide the perfect launch vehicle for the Paragon.

**Dave Sutton** · 19th April 2008, 11:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Dave Sutton will buy one- he promised to toast one with a jet during a static motor test for us last year and is yet to come good on his promise!

Did, didn't I? And we just lost the chance... 68 flights in the MiG over the last three weeks and could have done it with ease. Bloody hell: I hate an opportunity missed and with Av-Kerosine now $7.00/gallon it's unlikely to be done anytime soon.....

Maybe simply giving one to the Dachshund/Doberman team here for a chew would work. They consume the little bits they gnaw off, and turning the POS into Dog-s h i t would be *so* poetic.

Dave

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Numpty diver · 19th April 2008, 18:50

GRRRRrrrrr

Janos · 20th April 2008, 17:37

I'm still using my Paragon. I've tracked down a service manual for it and service it (the o-rings don't seem to be lubed when it first arrives) and it works ok.

However I use it as a one or two breaths to get on to my bailout tank.

Janos

PS - Am considering swapping to the Mares, but am worried it might be bulkier and floatier than the Paragon.

Janos

lizardland · 20th April 2008, 19:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos)

PS - Am considering swapping to the Mares, but am worried it might be bulkier and floatier than the Paragon.

It's a lot bigger and it's lighter in the mouth underwater. I'd say it's actually more comfortable on the jaw underwater than the Paragon is. Unless you're using a scooter then the size isn't that bad, on a scooter it does feel like there is a lot of drag.

Numpty diver · 4th May 2008, 18:01

Paragon sorted by a very kind member,
Phil thank you !! your a star.
Dean.

**PhilSiswick** · 7th May 2008, 08:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver)

Paragon sorted by a very kind member,
Phil thank you !! your a star.
Dean.

It's a pleasure - it would only have sat in my cellar otherwise. Hope it works for you - remember, it came without a warranty

Cheers,

**PhilSiswick** · 7th May 2008, 08:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

It's a lot bigger and it's lighter in the mouth underwater. I'd say it's actually more comfortable on the jaw underwater than the Paragon is. Unless you're using a scooter then the size isn't that bad, on a scooter it does feel like there is a lot of drag.

Having now dived mine properly (50m dives, 15 - 20 minutes of deco thanks to pesky OC diving buddies), I'd concur. It actually feels nicer, as it seems to have taken the edge off the weight of the mouthpiece. I didn't really have any jaw fatigue at all. It breathes very nicely too - richer and dryer than the Paragon ever was.

Haven't tried it with a scooter yet - anyone willing to lend me one? I promise to return it by the end of the season (or maybe in time for the start of next season ;-)

Cheers,

RAL · 8th May 2008, 11:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver)

Paragon sorted by a very kind member,
Phil thank you !! your a star.
Dean.

Good job Phil

Do you also help your friends find their car keys when they are too drunk to do so themselves?

RAL

19th April 2008, 09:12	#21 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,636	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by pieater) They may be shite, but I have two absolutely brand spanky new, utterly untouched by human hand examples in the loft. Should anyone want one, a PM will suffice. Martin Dave Sutton will buy one- he promised to toast one with a jet during a static motor test for us last year and is yet to come good on his promise! I have an old one here- anyone like to suggest a method of destruction? I will happily YouTube the results I have a large Industrial Shears at work... I figure cutting it in half with several 100 tonnes force would be pretty impressive or I could put it in a blender? __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,303	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Dave Sutton will buy one- he promised to toast one with a jet during a static motor test for us last year and is yet to come good on his promise! I have an old one here- anyone like to suggest a method of destruction? I will happily YouTube the results I have a large Industrial Shears at work... I figure cutting it in half with several 100 tonnes force would be pretty impressive or I could put it in a blender? I have one as well. I'd been thinking of building a potato cannon for a while and this could provide the perfect launch vehicle for the Paragon. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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19th April 2008, 11:44	#23 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Dave Sutton will buy one- he promised to toast one with a jet during a static motor test for us last year and is yet to come good on his promise! Did, didn't I? And we just lost the chance... 68 flights in the MiG over the last three weeks and could have done it with ease. Bloody hell: I hate an opportunity missed and with Av-Kerosine now $7.00/gallon it's unlikely to be done anytime soon..... Maybe simply giving one to the Dachshund/Doberman team here for a chew would work. They consume the little bits they gnaw off, and turning the POS into Dog-s h i t would be so poetic. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 206	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? GRRRRrrrrr
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Janos "Two Sheds" Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Surrey Posts: 600	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? I'm still using my Paragon. I've tracked down a service manual for it and service it (the o-rings don't seem to be lubed when it first arrives) and it works ok. However I use it as a one or two breaths to get on to my bailout tank. Janos PS - Am considering swapping to the Mares, but am worried it might be bulkier and floatier than the Paragon. Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed
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lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,303	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos) PS - Am considering swapping to the Mares, but am worried it might be bulkier and floatier than the Paragon. It's a lot bigger and it's lighter in the mouth underwater. I'd say it's actually more comfortable on the jaw underwater than the Paragon is. Unless you're using a scooter then the size isn't that bad, on a scooter it does feel like there is a lot of drag. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 206	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Paragon sorted by a very kind member, Phil thank you !! your a star. Dean.
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7th May 2008, 08:35	#28 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 991	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver) Paragon sorted by a very kind member, Phil thank you !! your a star. Dean. It's a pleasure - it would only have sat in my cellar otherwise. Hope it works for you - remember, it came without a warranty Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 991	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) It's a lot bigger and it's lighter in the mouth underwater. I'd say it's actually more comfortable on the jaw underwater than the Paragon is. Unless you're using a scooter then the size isn't that bad, on a scooter it does feel like there is a lot of drag. Having now dived mine properly (50m dives, 15 - 20 minutes of deco thanks to pesky OC diving buddies), I'd concur. It actually feels nicer, as it seems to have taken the edge off the weight of the mouthpiece. I didn't really have any jaw fatigue at all. It breathes very nicely too - richer and dryer than the Paragon ever was. Haven't tried it with a scooter yet - anyone willing to lend me one? I promise to return it by the end of the season (or maybe in time for the start of next season ;-) Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 391	Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver) Paragon sorted by a very kind member, Phil thank you !! your a star. Dean. Good job Phil Do you also help your friends find their car keys when they are too drunk to do so themselves? RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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