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| Moderator ![]() ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Having tried.. Its actually "Mother of All Reg Review"!!! Its here Gordon wrote a reply to that test, stating that it was a different reg they were using to the one in the tests, and it was the first stage, not the second stage that failed. The Mother of All Reg Reviews - Scuba Diving Magazine Steve I don't remember where I read it, and couldn't be bothered looking for it at the moment, but its out there. Having said that, the first thing I did when I bought my unit was to follow the directions from the library here on Rebreather World to replace the paragon with an Oceanic Omega. ![]()
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| Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North...
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Have you had problems with the mares reg ? I might just have had a duff one but the exhaust valve on mine keeps ending up getting pushed up into casing. I don't know if there's maybe a pressure differential or what but it's happened a lot. A few times I've tried to see how it breathed at depth only to get a gobful of water and a very wet breathe, I'm losing faith in it for dealing with a sudden bailout and considering a Golem. It's hard to clear it underwater because the baffle that goes over the exhaust is fixed in place with a steel pin rather than the kind most regs have that just pull off. It's too small to get a gloved finger into either.Dean The other downside is that it is absolutely massive. You become very aware of it if you have to jump in off a high boat, especially when it cracks you on the nose or front teeth After doing it a couple of times, you won't forget to keep hold...
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| Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Gordon wrote a reply to that test, stating that it was a different reg they were using to the one in the tests, and it was the first stage, not the second stage that failed. I don't remember where I read it, and couldn't be bothered looking for it at the moment, but its out there. Having said that, the first thing I did when I bought my unit was to follow the directions from the library here on Rebreather World to replace the paragon with an Oceanic Omega. ![]() I took the regulator to dive lab & showed it to them. It sure looked like the reg they tested to them. You cannot make a crappy 2nd stage good by hooking it up to a good apex 1st stage, Apex are great regs but they are not magic. The Paragon breaths like a pig, is temperamental & leaks water like a sieve if breathed hard. Other than that it is a fine reg. RAL
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| Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen
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![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? The 1st stage im using is a DS4.. its ok but .. it has no cold kit it doesnt like hard work and the ports are not straight up . I will change them when ive sorted out the Paragon problem .. Which mares reg are you using Stuart ? The Ray hoses and reg fit straight onto the sports kiss (thanks Dave ) but gob piece is upside down . I have Ray hoses and mouthpiece going spare...could there be a swap here ? |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? The 1st stage im using is a DS4.. its ok but .. it has no cold kit it doesnt like hard work and the ports are not straight up . I'll check when I get home but I'm pretty sure the DSV is exhale right, inhale left as the CK. If you're interested in a swap then let me know.I will change them when ive sorted out the Paragon problem .. Which mares reg are you using Stuart ? The Ray hoses and reg fit straight onto the sports kiss (thanks Dave ) but gob piece is upside down . I have Ray hoses and mouthpiece going spare...could there be a swap here ? Cheers, Stuart
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? I'll check when I get home but I'm pretty sure the DSV is exhale right, inhale left as the CK. If you're interested in a swap then let me know. Cheers, Stuart Flapper Spiders are reversable so they can be used either flow direction. Pull 'em and flip 'em. I have two "Paragons of Unreliability" available, all you need to do is to dive in the marina behind EXPLORER to find the pair that I tossed over the side last year. The bubbles they released as they sank to the muck were the last bubbles the stupid things ever released, the freeflowing pigs. Damned worthless Chinese-Junk crap POS rotten-to-the-core black-hearted water AND gas leaking toys. (I feel better now.... ). Mares replacements have been fine. Little large in the air but no sweat in the water. Dave
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| Gone diving!! Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? Second the comments on the Paragon - a terrible reg if I ever breathed one! Use anything but this....I'd go as far as to call it a dangerous addition to the KISS, or indeed any CCR...
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![]() | Were you successful in your search?? I have half a dozen all used they seem good to go PM me if I can help. ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? I'll check when I get home but I'm pretty sure the DSV is exhale right, inhale left as the CK. If you're interested in a swap then let me know. I have checked and it does indeed flow in the same direction as the KISS.Cheers, Stuart Flapper Spiders are reversable so they can be used either flow direction. Pull 'em and flip 'em. Now that's a "doh!" moment. I tried swapping the right and left cage assembly to reverse the flow, but they are sized differently so won't fit. I never thought of just turning them over...And say what you mean about the Paragon, a lot of people may not have understood your subtlety ![]() Cheers, Stuart
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Anyone sell me a used working paragon ? They may be shite, but I have two absolutely brand spanky new, utterly untouched by human hand examples in the loft. Should anyone want one, a PM will suffice. Martin |
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