New Prism being delivered

**jstovall** · 19th April 2006, 00:13

Hello All,

New to this site, very impressed. There is a ton of info in here. Wish I had known about it before deposit placed back in September '05. Going to California to train with Jeffery Bozanic this May. Rebreathers delivery next week per SM. I have many questions about unit and travel. First of which is what pelican case to ship in, need for spare part at traing, to include extra sensors, etc. Do airlines give you much shite over transporting cylinders, etc... Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Saying Goodbye to Bubbles. I hope.

James

Chris · 19th April 2006, 02:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by jstovall)

Hello All,

New to this site, very impressed. There is a ton of info in here. Wish I had known about it before deposit placed back in September '05. Going to California to train with Jeffery Bozanic this May. Rebreathers delivery next week per SM. I have many questions about unit and travel. First of which is what pelican case to ship in, need for spare part at traing, to include extra sensors, etc. Do airlines give you much shite over transporting cylinders, etc... Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Saying Goodbye to Bubbles. I hope.

James

Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650

As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in.

Cheers
Chris

***caveseeker7*** · 19th April 2006, 02:38

Welcome to Rebreather World, James.
And congrats on the PRISM.

As for travel ... I can fit it in my Miata.

Haven't tried a plane yet, but 'silent running' can fill you in.

Regarding tanks, SMI has some info on their website, and if
you search the forums for "TSA" or "airlines" you should get
plenty of hits.

P6017 · 19th April 2006, 02:58

[quote=Chris]Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650

As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in.

Cheers
Chris[/quote
The only real drawback to the pelican 1650 is that its very heavy. With airline weight limits it can be an issue.
Pete

Chris · 19th April 2006, 03:04

[quote=P6017]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650

As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in.

Cheers
Chris[/quote
The only real drawback to the pelican 1650 is that its very heavy. With airline weight limits it can be an issue.
Pete

Pete that is very true the stock Prism in the 1650 Pelican case minus tanks, weighs in at 28kgs, so whats that about 61 pounds

Its a bloody heavy case to travel with.
Silent running will be here soon to tell us all about PRISM Travel

Cheers
Chris

ROB DAVIE · 19th April 2006, 03:18

James,

Several rules apply here:

(1) TSA rule on cylinders--They have to be able to inspect the inside if they want to do so--Also, the airlines want them de-pressurised for safety reasons--I remove the valves, and put travel caps on the cylinders to protect them--I carry the cylinders in my checked baggage--I have had no problems whatsoever.

(2) The size limit is 62 inches total--sum of length plus width plus height--and 50 lbs domestic--70 lbs international--above that you will be charged extra--or they may refuse to carry it.

(3) Remember: You probably will not be asked what is in the case if it is not marked. If you are, however, your gear is "sport equipment". It is NOT scuba gear. Some airlines charge extra for that even if it is within weight limits. It is NOT a rebreather. Some parts of the world get suspicious about your posession of military gear! Don't worry. If you tell the agent at check-in that it is sport equipment, and TSA (or the local equivalent) opens it later, they do not call back to the desk, so no one will come looking for you to spank you.

(4) Sometimes application of these rules gets extremely "iffy" and arbitrary. Doing it the way I suggest is the correct way to avoid problems (if at all possible). Trust me on this one. It is what I do for a living!

(5) As a final note on your question about spares, it is always good to have a set of spare sensors about six months newer than your first set, if funds allow.

Just my ppO2's worth.

Cheers, and welcome to the "Dark Side"!

***jradomski*** · 19th April 2006, 04:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE)

James,

Several rules apply here:

(1) TSA rule on cylinders--They have to be able to inspect the inside if they want to do so--Also, the airlines want them de-pressurised for safety reasons--I remove the valves, and put travel caps on the cylinders to protect them--I carry the cylinders in my checked baggage--I have had no problems whatsoever.

(2) The size limit is 62 inches total--sum of length plus width plus height--and 50 lbs domestic--70 lbs international--above that you will be charged extra--or they may refuse to carry it.

(3) Remember: You probably will not be asked what is in the case if it is not marked. If you are, however, your gear is "sport equipment". It is NOT scuba gear. Some airlines charge extra for that even if it is within weight limits. It is NOT a rebreather. Some parts of the world get suspicious about your posession of military gear! Don't worry. If you tell the agent at check-in that it is sport equipment, and TSA (or the local equivalent) opens it later, they do not call back to the desk, so no one will come looking for you to spank you.

(4) Sometimes application of these rules gets extremely "iffy" and arbitrary. Doing it the way I suggest is the correct way to avoid problems (if at all possible). Trust me on this one. It is what I do for a living!

(5) As a final note on your question about spares, it is always good to have a set of spare sensors about six months newer than your first set, if funds allow.

Just my ppO2's worth.

Cheers, and welcome to the "Dark Side"!

Unless you fly with CONTINENTAL

They are diving and Rebreather friendly..

robinfante · 19th April 2006, 14:09

I use a pelican 1660 case, which at 35lbs or so empty is indeed a heavy case. It fits my prism, including the grey wolf tech backplate with cover, like a glove width/lengthwise, and leaves enough room height-wise to pack in clothes, extra foam, or whatever. I like to just put a big-ass piece of foam on top, so if TSA takes it out they can put it in easily without having to repack. With tanks inside it is 76 or so lbs., so I load it full of stuff to 96 lbs or so since I'm paying for it anyways. This does not include the head, I carry that with me in a pelican 1430 case, which fits the head, primary, secondary, and all my computers brilliantly.

Continental, as mentioned, has no concerns about rebreathers. The only thing the agent in Hawaii wanted to know was what its like!

Bubble Boy · 20th April 2006, 02:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650

As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in.

Cheers
Chris

Actually you'llk find it's a 1620 Chriso. The 1650 is the bigger flartrter job with room for the cylinders.....

Chris · 20th April 2006, 04:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bubble Boy)

Actually you'llk find it's a 1620 Chriso. The 1650 is the bigger flartrter job with room for the cylinders.....

Thanks mate, I just took it off the website.

Cheers
Chriso

19th April 2006, 00:13	#1 (permalink)
jstovall Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Braunfels, TX Posts: 55	New Prism being delivered Hello All, New to this site, very impressed. There is a ton of info in here. Wish I had known about it before deposit placed back in September '05. Going to California to train with Jeffery Bozanic this May. Rebreathers delivery next week per SM. I have many questions about unit and travel. First of which is what pelican case to ship in, need for spare part at traing, to include extra sensors, etc. Do airlines give you much shite over transporting cylinders, etc... Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Saying Goodbye to Bubbles. I hope. James
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19th April 2006, 02:10	#2 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 609	Re: New Prism being delivered Quote: (Originally Posted by jstovall) Hello All, New to this site, very impressed. There is a ton of info in here. Wish I had known about it before deposit placed back in September '05. Going to California to train with Jeffery Bozanic this May. Rebreathers delivery next week per SM. I have many questions about unit and travel. First of which is what pelican case to ship in, need for spare part at traing, to include extra sensors, etc. Do airlines give you much shite over transporting cylinders, etc... Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Saying Goodbye to Bubbles. I hope. James Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650 As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in. Cheers Chris __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com Last edited by Chris : 19th April 2006 at 02:17.
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19th April 2006, 02:38	#3 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Re: New Prism being delivered Welcome to Rebreather World, James. And congrats on the PRISM. As for travel ... I can fit it in my Miata. Haven't tried a plane yet, but 'silent running' can fill you in. Regarding tanks, SMI has some info on their website, and if you search the forums for "TSA" or "airlines" you should get plenty of hits. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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19th April 2006, 02:58	#4 (permalink)
P6017 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 83	Re: New Prism being delivered [quote=Chris]Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650 As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in. Cheers Chris[/quote The only real drawback to the pelican 1650 is that its very heavy. With airline weight limits it can be an issue. Pete
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19th April 2006, 03:04	#5 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 609	Re: New Prism being delivered [quote=P6017] Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650 As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in. Cheers Chris[/quote The only real drawback to the pelican 1650 is that its very heavy. With airline weight limits it can be an issue. Pete Pete that is very true the stock Prism in the 1650 Pelican case minus tanks, weighs in at 28kgs, so whats that about 61 pounds Its a bloody heavy case to travel with. Silent running will be here soon to tell us all about PRISM Travel Cheers Chris __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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19th April 2006, 03:18	#6 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Re: New Prism being delivered James, Several rules apply here: (1) TSA rule on cylinders--They have to be able to inspect the inside if they want to do so--Also, the airlines want them de-pressurised for safety reasons--I remove the valves, and put travel caps on the cylinders to protect them--I carry the cylinders in my checked baggage--I have had no problems whatsoever. (2) The size limit is 62 inches total--sum of length plus width plus height--and 50 lbs domestic--70 lbs international--above that you will be charged extra--or they may refuse to carry it. (3) Remember: You probably will not be asked what is in the case if it is not marked. If you are, however, your gear is "sport equipment". It is NOT scuba gear. Some airlines charge extra for that even if it is within weight limits. It is NOT a rebreather. Some parts of the world get suspicious about your posession of military gear! Don't worry. If you tell the agent at check-in that it is sport equipment, and TSA (or the local equivalent) opens it later, they do not call back to the desk, so no one will come looking for you to spank you. (4) Sometimes application of these rules gets extremely "iffy" and arbitrary. Doing it the way I suggest is the correct way to avoid problems (if at all possible). Trust me on this one. It is what I do for a living! (5) As a final note on your question about spares, it is always good to have a set of spare sensors about six months newer than your first set, if funds allow. Just my ppO2's worth. Cheers, and welcome to the "Dark Side"! __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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19th April 2006, 04:31	#7 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,001	Re: New Prism being delivered Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE) James, Several rules apply here: (1) TSA rule on cylinders--They have to be able to inspect the inside if they want to do so--Also, the airlines want them de-pressurised for safety reasons--I remove the valves, and put travel caps on the cylinders to protect them--I carry the cylinders in my checked baggage--I have had no problems whatsoever. (2) The size limit is 62 inches total--sum of length plus width plus height--and 50 lbs domestic--70 lbs international--above that you will be charged extra--or they may refuse to carry it. (3) Remember: You probably will not be asked what is in the case if it is not marked. If you are, however, your gear is "sport equipment". It is NOT scuba gear. Some airlines charge extra for that even if it is within weight limits. It is NOT a rebreather. Some parts of the world get suspicious about your posession of military gear! Don't worry. If you tell the agent at check-in that it is sport equipment, and TSA (or the local equivalent) opens it later, they do not call back to the desk, so no one will come looking for you to spank you. (4) Sometimes application of these rules gets extremely "iffy" and arbitrary. Doing it the way I suggest is the correct way to avoid problems (if at all possible). Trust me on this one. It is what I do for a living! (5) As a final note on your question about spares, it is always good to have a set of spare sensors about six months newer than your first set, if funds allow. Just my ppO2's worth. Cheers, and welcome to the "Dark Side"! Unless you fly with CONTINENTAL They are diving and Rebreather friendly.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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19th April 2006, 14:09	#8 (permalink)
robinfante I have a smoking gun Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mountain lakes nj Posts: 148	Re: New Prism being delivered I use a pelican 1660 case, which at 35lbs or so empty is indeed a heavy case. It fits my prism, including the grey wolf tech backplate with cover, like a glove width/lengthwise, and leaves enough room height-wise to pack in clothes, extra foam, or whatever. I like to just put a big-ass piece of foam on top, so if TSA takes it out they can put it in easily without having to repack. With tanks inside it is 76 or so lbs., so I load it full of stuff to 96 lbs or so since I'm paying for it anyways. This does not include the head, I carry that with me in a pelican 1430 case, which fits the head, primary, secondary, and all my computers brilliantly. Continental, as mentioned, has no concerns about rebreathers. The only thing the agent in Hawaii wanted to know was what its like!
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20th April 2006, 02:38	#9 (permalink)
Bubble Boy PRISMs are kewl Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz MK 15.X Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 132	Re: New Prism being delivered Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) Hi James welcome to Rebreather World, make sure you talk to SMI about the Pelican case size, the only one it fits in minus cylinders is the 1650 As for travel witth them I will let the locals fill you in. Cheers Chris Actually you'llk find it's a 1620 Chriso. The 1650 is the bigger flartrter job with room for the cylinders.....
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20th April 2006, 04:38	#10 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 609	Re: New Prism being delivered Quote: (Originally Posted by Bubble Boy) Actually you'llk find it's a 1620 Chriso. The 1650 is the bigger flartrter job with room for the cylinders..... Thanks mate, I just took it off the website. Cheers Chriso __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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