Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism?

Heretic · 19th August 2007, 01:15

Hello,

I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September.

I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing.

Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism?

Thanks for your help.

**wedivebc** · 19th August 2007, 02:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic)

. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? .

sorry dive2dive is right

dive2dive2000 · 19th August 2007, 02:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic)

Hello,

I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September.

I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing.

Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism?

Thanks for your help.

When I started class with my PRISM, I also had a Grey wolf frame. I first used a Halcyon #40. I had 2 make some alterations in the wing basically widened the area were the bolt pattern is so it would except the PRISM's pattern. I then switched to a Dive Rite wing it has slots instead of bolt holes. They are both good wings it is basically a matter of personal preference. I now dive a custom BP and use the stock wings, so I would be willing to sell you either one, just give me a pm or an email. If I may make a suggestion, I would personally train on a stock PRISM. There are some really nice alternatives around and you might like them better than the GW plate. If you do any type of traveling, warm water diving or cave diving I feel there are better plates available.

Martin

silent running · 19th August 2007, 09:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

This is in really bad taste

Huh? What's up with this?

silent running · 19th August 2007, 09:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic)

Hello,

I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September.

I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing.

Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism?

Thanks for your help.

Hi Heretic, I have used 3 plates and 3 wings now with the Prism and my latest and favorite setup is the jstovall & company plate with the new Zeagle 37lb wing. It's very similar to the Halcyon 35lb in terms of its shape and dimentions, but has some elastic that pulls the wing closer to the body when inflated and has 2 pull dumps on each side of the bottom which makes it that much easier to rinse out. Not a big difference btw the CCR35, but it is quite a bit cheaper also.

As for plates, if you prefer a web harness with d-rings mounted on the shoulder webbing and want to carry your BO that way, then the Grey Wolf plate is very nice. The GW cowling is also very well made. The GW plate I used included a flat harness plate which sandwhiches the webbing btw it and the main plate which mounts the cyls and head. This makes the depth of the rig thin as can be, no gap btw the harness plate and the main plate, unlike a traditional OC harness/plate setup. But I found it a bit much for my warm water diving and went with side mount BO. But if you do most of your diving in a drysuit, I'd guess the GW plate with it's extended length room for a dry suit bottle and full length cowling is a good choice... -Andy

Heretic · 19th August 2007, 14:42

Thanks for the responses. You've provided some good options for consideration.

I probably should have provided more details about my plans. I'm a New England wreck diver. I dive dry. Most of my diving is off the Massachusetts/Rhode Island coasts.

I've got 3 young kids (one 5 year old and two 16 month toddlers), so my travel has been cut back significantly in recent years.

Ken West · 19th August 2007, 17:46

I simply added a rear dump valve at the bottom of the stock wing and added a couple of holes in the center to make it work with my backplate. Of the wings that I've tried it works the best.

sunnyboy · 19th August 2007, 18:02

I was told that you must take your Prism training using the stock rig. What you do after that is your business.

In my case, as soon as I got home I ordered the Prism adapter plate and Y counterlung adapter from Deep Sea Supply. Great service and excellent product. I removed the recreational BC from the backplate, then built my rig using the conversion plate, yoke adapter, a halcyon SS backplate, and an AGIR 38lb wing. The wing and backplate were from my OC days, and I'm very comfortable with that harness and wing. The rig looks nice, and is very clean and comfortable to dive.

The AGIR 38lb wing has a much nicer balance and trim than the Halcyon 55lb wing, IMO. I also hear good things about the Oxychek wing, but I have never tried it so cannot really comment further.

Cheers,

-S

dive2dive2000 · 19th August 2007, 20:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Huh? What's up with this?

Hi Andy,

It was a response to a post from Dave (wedivebc)

He pulled the post and apologized, Thank you Dave

NEwreckdiver · 20th August 2007, 01:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic)

Hello,

I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September.

I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing.

Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism?

Thanks for your help.

Hi Dan - as you know, we use the Oxycheq 50# wing with our rigs, which are configured GWII/NTEC. No mods are needed to use with the Grey Wolf system. I personally would not recommend going with less lift. The wings trim out fine, and still provide appropriate buoyancy when crowbars, hammers, chain and other critical artifact-rescue tools are attached to you

Heather

19th August 2007, 01:15	#1 (permalink)
Heretic New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 18	Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Hello, I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September. I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing. Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism? Thanks for your help. __________________ Be ruled by your dreams, not by your fears.
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19th August 2007, 02:38	#2 (permalink)
wedivebc FIGJAM Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,337	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic) . I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? . sorry dive2dive is right __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die Last edited by wedivebc : 19th August 2007 at 04:55.
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19th August 2007, 02:56	#3 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 775	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic) Hello, I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September. I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing. Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism? Thanks for your help. When I started class with my PRISM, I also had a Grey wolf frame. I first used a Halcyon #40. I had 2 make some alterations in the wing basically widened the area were the bolt pattern is so it would except the PRISM's pattern. I then switched to a Dive Rite wing it has slots instead of bolt holes. They are both good wings it is basically a matter of personal preference. I now dive a custom BP and use the stock wings, so I would be willing to sell you either one, just give me a pm or an email. If I may make a suggestion, I would personally train on a stock PRISM. There are some really nice alternatives around and you might like them better than the GW plate. If you do any type of traveling, warm water diving or cave diving I feel there are better plates available. Martin __________________ Safe Diving, Martin "but what's the fun of getting what you need, instead of what you want?"
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19th August 2007, 09:10	#4 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,743	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) This is in really bad taste Huh? What's up with this?
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19th August 2007, 09:32	#5 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,743	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic) Hello, I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September. I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing. Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism? Thanks for your help. Hi Heretic, I have used 3 plates and 3 wings now with the Prism and my latest and favorite setup is the jstovall & company plate with the new Zeagle 37lb wing. It's very similar to the Halcyon 35lb in terms of its shape and dimentions, but has some elastic that pulls the wing closer to the body when inflated and has 2 pull dumps on each side of the bottom which makes it that much easier to rinse out. Not a big difference btw the CCR35, but it is quite a bit cheaper also. As for plates, if you prefer a web harness with d-rings mounted on the shoulder webbing and want to carry your BO that way, then the Grey Wolf plate is very nice. The GW cowling is also very well made. The GW plate I used included a flat harness plate which sandwhiches the webbing btw it and the main plate which mounts the cyls and head. This makes the depth of the rig thin as can be, no gap btw the harness plate and the main plate, unlike a traditional OC harness/plate setup. But I found it a bit much for my warm water diving and went with side mount BO. But if you do most of your diving in a drysuit, I'd guess the GW plate with it's extended length room for a dry suit bottle and full length cowling is a good choice... -Andy
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19th August 2007, 14:42	#6 (permalink)
Heretic New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 18	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Thanks for the responses. You've provided some good options for consideration. I probably should have provided more details about my plans. I'm a New England wreck diver. I dive dry. Most of my diving is off the Massachusetts/Rhode Island coasts. I've got 3 young kids (one 5 year old and two 16 month toddlers), so my travel has been cut back significantly in recent years. __________________ Be ruled by your dreams, not by your fears.
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19th August 2007, 17:46	#7 (permalink)
Ken West New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 23	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? I simply added a rear dump valve at the bottom of the stock wing and added a couple of holes in the center to make it work with my backplate. Of the wings that I've tried it works the best.
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19th August 2007, 18:02	#8 (permalink)
sunnyboy New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ladysmith, B.C. Canada Posts: 86	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? I was told that you must take your Prism training using the stock rig. What you do after that is your business. In my case, as soon as I got home I ordered the Prism adapter plate and Y counterlung adapter from Deep Sea Supply. Great service and excellent product. I removed the recreational BC from the backplate, then built my rig using the conversion plate, yoke adapter, a halcyon SS backplate, and an AGIR 38lb wing. The wing and backplate were from my OC days, and I'm very comfortable with that harness and wing. The rig looks nice, and is very clean and comfortable to dive. The AGIR 38lb wing has a much nicer balance and trim than the Halcyon 55lb wing, IMO. I also hear good things about the Oxychek wing, but I have never tried it so cannot really comment further. Cheers, -S
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19th August 2007, 20:05	#9 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 775	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Huh? What's up with this? Hi Andy, It was a response to a post from Dave (wedivebc) He pulled the post and apologized, Thank you Dave __________________ Safe Diving, Martin "but what's the fun of getting what you need, instead of what you want?"
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20th August 2007, 01:48	#10 (permalink)
NEwreckdiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston MA Posts: 40	Re: Has Anyone Used CCR-35 Wing On A Prism? Quote: (Originally Posted by Heretic) Hello, I'm expecting to take delivery on my Prism and start training by the end of September. I've decided to go with the Grey Wolf Innovation frame, which means that I'll need to buy a wing. Its my understanding that the CCR-35 was designed for use with a Meg. I'm curious whether anyone is using or has used it with a Prism and Grey Wolf frame? If so, what are your opinions? In addition, were any modifications necessary in order to use it with the Prism? Thanks for your help. Hi Dan - as you know, we use the Oxycheq 50# wing with our rigs, which are configured GWII/NTEC. No mods are needed to use with the Grey Wolf system. I personally would not recommend going with less lift. The wings trim out fine, and still provide appropriate buoyancy when crowbars, hammers, chain and other critical artifact-rescue tools are attached to you Heather
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