Deco electronics on the Prism

Dave Sutton · 29th January 2007, 00:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

To be honest, Dave, I couldn't care any less if that display is in use in France or elsewhere.

I do, it speaks to the credibility of manufacturers and the habit of vapor-ware releases in the rebreather industry. It's NOT directed to any specific manufacturer, although we all know the litany of the usual vaporware suspects.

Best,

Dave

Dave Sutton · 29th January 2007, 00:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

I did not mean to imply that they were PRISM'S

Errrr.... that's not how the post came out. Just checking! After hearing for years that the US Navy was "soon" to select the Prism as it's next rebreather, I'm always interested in the "next" military claim to eminate from this honorable maker.....

Best,

Dave

silent running · 29th January 2007, 09:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

After hearing for years that the US Navy was "soon" to select the Prism as it's next rebreather, I'm always interested in the "next" military claim to eminate from this honorable maker.....

Best,

Dave

Dave, is the sarcasm really necessary? What about SMI is dishonorabe? If SMI eventually get the USN to adopt their ECCR, that's great. If not, so what? Is there any other off-the-rack unit that made it so far in the aquisition process? What other manufacturer has independant test data on their website regarding scrubber performance, WOB and SP control? Anybody who reads the data can't help notice that USN were impressed with the Prism performance.

IMHO, that makes them more honorable compared to most... -Andy

***caveseeker7*** · 29th January 2007, 12:13

Andy, some trolls wouldn't know honorable if they slipped an fell on it. It's NOT directed to any specific troll, although we all know the litany of the usual trolling suspects.

Dave Sutton · 29th January 2007, 13:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Dave, is the sarcasm really necessary?

No, I guess not. Forgive me for having watched the progress of the subject hardware and firm for so many years that I have a fully formed opinion regarding the litany of promises made and never met. Must have caught me in a peckish mood. The rig is a workable one, simple and with a good technical pneumatics architecture. Electronics are robust and very reliable (I have a prototype set in one of my Mark-15's and it works just fine, hard to improve on "it always works"). Mechanical characteristics are not robust enough for *my* shipboard use, but your actual mileage may vary. I do also have a load of air bubble riddled cast epoxy parts, gobbed-on epoxy spliced electrical cables, and misdimensioned Mark-15 pod lids, etc., from the maker sitting in a box under my bench, so it's not like my complete opinion was formed in a vacuum.

Best to all, I'm going into the backyard now with a shotgun to look under my little bridge for that troll you mentioned...

. I'll try to cage him and keep him from peeking out at the divers.

Dave

jasonvds · 29th January 2007, 14:12

the USN have all but made their decision on their rebreathers at the moment, they've opted for the Carleton Tech Mod 1 upgrade and are currently rolling this through their fleet...shame really as there are some good sets out there...the USMC, now that's a different matter all together! There's a huge gap between recreational sets and those used by the military and that's not just in the pricing, which to a large extent is justified...fortunately there are a number of considerations which don't affect the decisions we make as recreational divers that do affect the military. Remember, for them it's only a method of transportation to get them from point A to B and back again safely much like a car.

mverick · 29th January 2007, 15:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

It is to my understanding that heads up displays are in use (if not please correct me), I did not mean to imply that they were PRISM'S or that they even provide deco. I do not know how advanced or what data they do provide, or who even manufactures or supplies them. The point I was trying to make is it will be a while before the sport arena sees this type of computer

Oceanic Worldwide - Scuba and Snorkeling Gear, Scuba and Snorkeling Equipment and Dive Gear

You're right. Oceanic.

Just wondering where your info came from?

29th January 2007, 00:22	#21 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Membership Cancelled Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,637	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) To be honest, Dave, I couldn't care any less if that display is in use in France or elsewhere. I do, it speaks to the credibility of manufacturers and the habit of vapor-ware releases in the rebreather industry. It's NOT directed to any specific manufacturer, although we all know the litany of the usual vaporware suspects. Best, Dave Last edited by Dave Sutton : 29th January 2007 at 00:27.
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29th January 2007, 00:26	#22 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Membership Cancelled Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,637	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) I did not mean to imply that they were PRISM'S Errrr.... that's not how the post came out. Just checking! After hearing for years that the US Navy was "soon" to select the Prism as it's next rebreather, I'm always interested in the "next" military claim to eminate from this honorable maker..... Best, Dave
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29th January 2007, 09:37	#23 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,814	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) After hearing for years that the US Navy was "soon" to select the Prism as it's next rebreather, I'm always interested in the "next" military claim to eminate from this honorable maker..... Best, Dave Dave, is the sarcasm really necessary? What about SMI is dishonorabe? If SMI eventually get the USN to adopt their ECCR, that's great. If not, so what? Is there any other off-the-rack unit that made it so far in the aquisition process? What other manufacturer has independant test data on their website regarding scrubber performance, WOB and SP control? Anybody who reads the data can't help notice that USN were impressed with the Prism performance. IMHO, that makes them more honorable compared to most... -Andy
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29th January 2007, 12:13	#24 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,435	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Andy, some trolls wouldn't know honorable if they slipped an fell on it. It's NOT directed to any specific troll, although we all know the litany of the usual trolling suspects. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'!"
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29th January 2007, 13:07	#25 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Membership Cancelled Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,637	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Dave, is the sarcasm really necessary? No, I guess not. Forgive me for having watched the progress of the subject hardware and firm for so many years that I have a fully formed opinion regarding the litany of promises made and never met. Must have caught me in a peckish mood. The rig is a workable one, simple and with a good technical pneumatics architecture. Electronics are robust and very reliable (I have a prototype set in one of my Mark-15's and it works just fine, hard to improve on "it always works"). Mechanical characteristics are not robust enough for my shipboard use, but your actual mileage may vary. I do also have a load of air bubble riddled cast epoxy parts, gobbed-on epoxy spliced electrical cables, and misdimensioned Mark-15 pod lids, etc., from the maker sitting in a box under my bench, so it's not like my complete opinion was formed in a vacuum. Best to all, I'm going into the backyard now with a shotgun to look under my little bridge for that troll you mentioned... . I'll try to cage him and keep him from peeking out at the divers. Dave
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29th January 2007, 14:12	#26 (permalink)
jasonvds New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 88	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism the USN have all but made their decision on their rebreathers at the moment, they've opted for the Carleton Tech Mod 1 upgrade and are currently rolling this through their fleet...shame really as there are some good sets out there...the USMC, now that's a different matter all together! There's a huge gap between recreational sets and those used by the military and that's not just in the pricing, which to a large extent is justified...fortunately there are a number of considerations which don't affect the decisions we make as recreational divers that do affect the military. Remember, for them it's only a method of transportation to get them from point A to B and back again safely much like a car.
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29th January 2007, 15:23	#27 (permalink)
mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 511	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) It is to my understanding that heads up displays are in use (if not please correct me), I did not mean to imply that they were PRISM'S or that they even provide deco. I do not know how advanced or what data they do provide, or who even manufactures or supplies them. The point I was trying to make is it will be a while before the sport arena sees this type of computer Oceanic Worldwide - Scuba and Snorkeling Gear, Scuba and Snorkeling Equipment and Dive Gear You're right. Oceanic. Just wondering where your info came from?
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