Deco electronics on the Prism

jasonvds · 27th January 2007, 21:50

yes, some rebreather divers are VERY interested in who's using it!!

mverick · 27th January 2007, 21:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

The headsup display is currently used by the military, It will not be available to sport divers for a while To expensive and not a big enough customer base for manufactures to invest in

Nice of them to tell me that it was coming out by the end of the year years ago then. At that time it was a big thing to me. Now, not so much.

I'm also wondering what military group uses them. Have a few friends in there in the right places and they don't know anything about it.

jasonvds · 27th January 2007, 22:00

my understanding is that the set was trialled but nothing more came of it, perhaps they have a few units still that were bought as part of the testing, there's only one HUD like that I'm aware of but it's not in the US and it's not for a specific set.

**DeepBlueInnovation** · 27th January 2007, 22:48

Well, at least it it hasn't been ruled out totally yet so there is hope...

you know the saying, where there is vapor-ware there is hope

Doppler · 28th January 2007, 11:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

The headsup display is currently used by the military, It will not be available to sport divers for a while To expensive and not a big enough customer base for manufactures to invest in

I too would like to know if there is a mil spec. HUD in use or in development for the Prism CCR.

***caveseeker7*** · 28th January 2007, 18:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Shades of "The Prism will be selected by the US Navy"....

Do tell us what military unit uses this hardware and on what rebreather? Interested rebreather divers want to know.

Dave, the HUD mentioned isn't the deco computer display, but a flip-down for the AGA mask that Pete had at DEMA 2005. The design isn't his, he just did the prototyping as a contract. That display, afaIk, is indeed used in France.

The idea of using a single screen to display deco and pO2 data derived from it, the picture above was an early prototype. Wasn't the last one, before the move to TN I played with one about half the size (same size screen).

From what I gather the deco computer that SMI has been working on (and off) will be a brick with a "normal" display, rather than a HUD with screen, at least for the foreseeable future.

**Dave Sutton** · 28th January 2007, 19:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

That display, afaIk, is indeed used in France..

Err..... don't think so. Had a short chat with one of my colleagues this AM and he does not believe that the thing is in use there. I work for Dassault (remember Mirage fighters?) for my day job and have direct line to almost every French military command (including the Navy, from where I get little goodies like my DC-55 parts) so I had a little Q&A and that's the skinny from France.

Speaking as someone immersed fully in the French military/industrial world, I can tell everyone that they would very rarely use any foreign made defense technology. The French are perversely dedicated to complete independence from outside defence material support. Remember who *invented* the Aqua-Lung? The *last* thing in the world that they would use is a US made piece of diving kit....

Try again?

Dave

jasonvds · 28th January 2007, 19:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Speaking as someone immersed fully in the French military/industrial world, I can tell everyone that they would very rarely use any foreign made defense technology.

***caveseeker7*** · 28th January 2007, 21:01

To be honest, Dave, I couldn't care any less if that display is in use in France or elsewhere.

dive2dive2000 · 28th January 2007, 23:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Shades of "The Prism will be selected by the US Navy"....

Do tell us what military unit uses this hardware and on what rebreather? Interested rebreather divers want to know.

Dave

It is to my understanding that heads up displays are in use (if not please correct me), I did not mean to imply that they were PRISM'S or that they even provide deco. I do not know how advanced or what data they do provide, or who even manufactures or supplies them. The point I was trying to make is it will be a while before the sport arena sees this type of computer

27th January 2007, 21:50	#11 (permalink)
jasonvds New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 91	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism yes, some rebreather divers are VERY interested in who's using it!!
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27th January 2007, 21:58	#12 (permalink)
mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 543	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) The headsup display is currently used by the military, It will not be available to sport divers for a while To expensive and not a big enough customer base for manufactures to invest in Nice of them to tell me that it was coming out by the end of the year years ago then. At that time it was a big thing to me. Now, not so much. I'm also wondering what military group uses them. Have a few friends in there in the right places and they don't know anything about it.
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27th January 2007, 22:00	#13 (permalink)
jasonvds New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 91	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism my understanding is that the set was trialled but nothing more came of it, perhaps they have a few units still that were bought as part of the testing, there's only one HUD like that I'm aware of but it's not in the US and it's not for a specific set.
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27th January 2007, 22:48	#14 (permalink)
DeepBlueInnovation Learning to Kiss Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 362	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Well, at least it it hasn't been ruled out totally yet so there is hope... you know the saying, where there is vapor-ware there is hope
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28th January 2007, 11:54	#15 (permalink)
Doppler Cut along dotted line... Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Not Basingstoke... thank god Posts: 179	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) The headsup display is currently used by the military, It will not be available to sport divers for a while To expensive and not a big enough customer base for manufactures to invest in I too would like to know if there is a mil spec. HUD in use or in development for the Prism CCR.
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28th January 2007, 18:18	#16 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,498	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Shades of "The Prism will be selected by the US Navy".... Do tell us what military unit uses this hardware and on what rebreather? Interested rebreather divers want to know. Dave, the HUD mentioned isn't the deco computer display, but a flip-down for the AGA mask that Pete had at DEMA 2005. The design isn't his, he just did the prototyping as a contract. That display, afaIk, is indeed used in France. The idea of using a single screen to display deco and pO2 data derived from it, the picture above was an early prototype. Wasn't the last one, before the move to TN I played with one about half the size (same size screen). From what I gather the deco computer that SMI has been working on (and off) will be a brick with a "normal" display, rather than a HUD with screen, at least for the foreseeable future. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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28th January 2007, 19:49	#17 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) That display, afaIk, is indeed used in France.. Err..... don't think so. Had a short chat with one of my colleagues this AM and he does not believe that the thing is in use there. I work for Dassault (remember Mirage fighters?) for my day job and have direct line to almost every French military command (including the Navy, from where I get little goodies like my DC-55 parts) so I had a little Q&A and that's the skinny from France. Speaking as someone immersed fully in the French military/industrial world, I can tell everyone that they would very rarely use any foreign made defense technology. The French are perversely dedicated to complete independence from outside defence material support. Remember who invented the Aqua-Lung? The last thing in the world that they would use is a US made piece of diving kit.... Try again? Dave __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 28th January 2007 at 19:54.
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28th January 2007, 19:55	#18 (permalink)
jasonvds New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 91	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Speaking as someone immersed fully in the French military/industrial world, I can tell everyone that they would very rarely use any foreign made defense technology.
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28th January 2007, 21:01	#19 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,498	To be honest, Dave, I couldn't care any less if that display is in use in France or elsewhere. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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28th January 2007, 23:45	#20 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 793	Re: Deco electronics on the Prism Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Shades of "The Prism will be selected by the US Navy".... Do tell us what military unit uses this hardware and on what rebreather? Interested rebreather divers want to know. Dave It is to my understanding that heads up displays are in use (if not please correct me), I did not mean to imply that they were PRISM'S or that they even provide deco. I do not know how advanced or what data they do provide, or who even manufactures or supplies them. The point I was trying to make is it will be a while before the sport arena sees this type of computer __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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