Gossip

Fulefejs · 20th July 2008, 23:05

Several units is "doing time" in water.
Production of hardware is solved and ready.
Problem is software. Something, I don´t know what, is hooked up in software engineering. This part is taking place on the other side of the big pond, have anyone from "over there" heard something?

/D

Sten · 21st July 2008, 08:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by Fulefejs)

Something, I don´t know what, is hooked up in software engineering.

This part is taking place on the other side of the big pond, have anyone from "over there" heard something?
/D

Oh, this sounds like a modern classic. A mechanical engineering company developing a product where software is a part.... The organisation is set up for drawing, prototypes, testing, tooling and manufacture. This process is hopefully well known and documented. Management knows the process, and have probably started their career in a similar setting.

In comes electronics, and then programmable electronics. This is more or less black magic to most "mechanical persons". At first software is seen as a way to allow for late changes and cost savings, later on with more and more software in the product the management will find that more and more of the design, development and product maintenance is done outside of the ordinary mechanical engineering processes.

What this will do to cost and time control is left to the reader to find out...

/Sten

jont · 28th August 2008, 23:10

Just another reason why you never want to shoot your load to soon.

**PhilSiswick** · 29th August 2008, 07:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sten)

Oh, this sounds like a modern classic. A mechanical engineering company developing a product where software is a part.... The organisation is set up for drawing, prototypes, testing, tooling and manufacture. This process is hopefully well known and documented. Management knows the process, and have probably started their career in a similar setting.

In comes electronics, and then programmable electronics. This is more or less black magic to most "mechanical persons". At first software is seen as a way to allow for late changes and cost savings, later on with more and more software in the product the management will find that more and more of the design, development and product maintenance is done outside of the ordinary mechanical engineering processes.

What this will do to cost and time control is left to the reader to find out...

/Sten

You're right, it's a big shift for them. There's a parallel though, in history. Based on avid reading of threads on the early Inspiration issues on the Rebreather list back in the late 90s when I started to dream of getting a CCR, I'd say that APD went through a similar experience in the early years. 11 years on, the physical bits haven't changed that much, but the electronics bear no resemblance to the original versions.

I hope that Poseidon stick with it and see this through. They shouldn't have hyped it so much so early though..

Cheers,

dave t · 29th August 2008, 09:13

I heard a rumour that Poseiden have dropped the cis-lunar, can anyone confirm this?

Collin · 29th August 2008, 11:35

Just heard same rumour myself.

henckell · 29th August 2008, 19:40

There are some new pics here:

Poseidon Discovery Rebreather

Ben Field · 29th August 2008, 20:09

Certainly looks better in those pics than any of the previous "beta" pics... Still needs a case :-)

dave t · 29th August 2008, 21:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by henckell)

There are some new pics here:

Poseidon Discovery Rebreather

That looks much better, I hope the rumour is not true!

rogeringebo · 30th August 2008, 07:08

Thats more like it!

Rodge

20th July 2008, 23:05	#1 (permalink)
Fulefejs New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 21	Gossip Several units is "doing time" in water. Production of hardware is solved and ready. Problem is software. Something, I don´t know what, is hooked up in software engineering. This part is taking place on the other side of the big pond, have anyone from "over there" heard something? /D __________________ Things should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler
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21st July 2008, 08:20	#2 (permalink)
Sten Beeing Visionary Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 51	Re: Gossip Quote: (Originally Posted by Fulefejs) Something, I don´t know what, is hooked up in software engineering. This part is taking place on the other side of the big pond, have anyone from "over there" heard something? /D Oh, this sounds like a modern classic. A mechanical engineering company developing a product where software is a part.... The organisation is set up for drawing, prototypes, testing, tooling and manufacture. This process is hopefully well known and documented. Management knows the process, and have probably started their career in a similar setting. In comes electronics, and then programmable electronics. This is more or less black magic to most "mechanical persons". At first software is seen as a way to allow for late changes and cost savings, later on with more and more software in the product the management will find that more and more of the design, development and product maintenance is done outside of the ordinary mechanical engineering processes. What this will do to cost and time control is left to the reader to find out... /Sten __________________ Visionary
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28th August 2008, 23:10	#3 (permalink)
jont Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY USA Posts: 226	Re: Gossip Just another reason why you never want to shoot your load to soon.
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29th August 2008, 07:18	#4 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: Gossip Quote: (Originally Posted by Sten) Oh, this sounds like a modern classic. A mechanical engineering company developing a product where software is a part.... The organisation is set up for drawing, prototypes, testing, tooling and manufacture. This process is hopefully well known and documented. Management knows the process, and have probably started their career in a similar setting. In comes electronics, and then programmable electronics. This is more or less black magic to most "mechanical persons". At first software is seen as a way to allow for late changes and cost savings, later on with more and more software in the product the management will find that more and more of the design, development and product maintenance is done outside of the ordinary mechanical engineering processes. What this will do to cost and time control is left to the reader to find out... /Sten You're right, it's a big shift for them. There's a parallel though, in history. Based on avid reading of threads on the early Inspiration issues on the Rebreather list back in the late 90s when I started to dream of getting a CCR, I'd say that APD went through a similar experience in the early years. 11 years on, the physical bits haven't changed that much, but the electronics bear no resemblance to the original versions. I hope that Poseidon stick with it and see this through. They shouldn't have hyped it so much so early though.. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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29th August 2008, 09:13	#5 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 654	Re: Gossip I heard a rumour that Poseiden have dropped the cis-lunar, can anyone confirm this?
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29th August 2008, 11:35	#6 (permalink)
Collin New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 34	Re: Gossip Just heard same rumour myself.
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29th August 2008, 19:40	#7 (permalink)
henckell New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 90	Re: Gossip There are some new pics here: Poseidon Discovery Rebreather __________________ http://www.rekodeko.se
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29th August 2008, 20:09	#8 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,621	Re: Gossip Certainly looks better in those pics than any of the previous "beta" pics... Still needs a case :-) __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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29th August 2008, 21:11	#9 (permalink)
dave t Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 654	Re: Gossip Quote: (Originally Posted by henckell) There are some new pics here: Poseidon Discovery Rebreather That looks much better, I hope the rumour is not true!
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30th August 2008, 07:08	#10 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: Gossip Thats more like it! Rodge
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