Questions about PAL and DVD in Europe

Ken · 24th March 2005, 11:51

I'm compressing Rebreathers Volume I into DVD/NTSC on my Macintosh. My general question is:

Do most people (technicall savvy) use multi-format DVD players? I am most focused on the UK, Italy, Germany and France? The early info. I get is that DVD/NTSC doesnt usually pose any viewing difficulties.

Many thanks. Ken

ROB DAVIE · 24th March 2005, 13:38

Ken,

Welcome again to the best re-breather site in the world! Although I don't use a Mac, I do a lot of video. I am interested in all that you find out about the DVD/PAL/NTSC deal.

Rob

DoubleTop · 24th March 2005, 15:39

most DVD players available for sale in the UK are multi region or home region +1 secondary region.

There is also an increasing amount of DivX capable DVD players hitting the UK markets as well and then the multi function recorders, mp3, divx super duper units.

I have a few friends who are far more savy on this than me, but I would say that the people in Europe who are likely to 'import' are going to be able to play anything on a DVD disk.

DT.

***caveseeker7*** · 24th March 2005, 16:16

Micha from EKPP send me two of their cave DVDs, just send him a mail and asked if he had to do anything special so I could play them on our NTSC systems.

Ken, are you with MadDog? When I received my video the player acted up so I pulled a copy for myself on DVD. Send Andrew a copy and asked him if he wanted me to chapter it so he could make and sell them as DVDs. Thought it might be more cost effective and attractive ... never heard back.

I figured if can sell some more we might actually get Volume II some day.

Ken · 24th March 2005, 16:56

Hi Rob, Double-Top and Stefan,

Thanks for your advice and assistance. From what I gather most folks, or rebreather folks have multi-regional capable players. That being the case the first batch of Rebreather Vol 1 will be NTSC. Yes, I am with Mad Dog. We've been working on RB Vol II since last year and accumulating some interesting footage including a deep penetration of the Jodrey. The Jodrey artilce was featured in the last IANTD Nitrox Diver. It's really cool in there as well as truly hazardous. I think Andy mentioned you with regards to archiving to DVD...but somewhere along the way??? He's off on expedition in some warm place right now. Arrrgh.

If you fellows leave me your e-mail addresses in my box I can send you a prototype teaser clip. 1.9 mb Quicktime. mov file Cheers. Ken

***caveseeker7*** · 24th March 2005, 17:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ken)

We've been working on Rebreather Vol II since last year ...

That's cool, I really liked Vol I.
A lot of footage of the rebreathers, and as you can see in my PRISM article I was inpired to use the "tour around the loop" idea. Had done it a couple of times verbally with a rig at hand it works so well when explaining it.

I still think it's the best combination of some basic general knowledge combined with unit specific footage. The latter is important to keep the intrest of people new to the subject as well as making it worth watching more than once.

I'm looking forward to the second volume.
Thanks to thse involved in the projects.

BullHead · 24th March 2005, 18:34

Where and when can I/we buy Rebreathers Volume I DVD/NTSC?

***schford*** · 24th March 2005, 19:03

Pal / NTSC and the region on the DVD are 2 different things.

Most European TVs will play either PAL or NTSC - which is the broadcast format.

DVD players have region encoding which are supposed to stop dvds from USA playing in Eu and vice versa - this is different to PAL/NTSC. You can get around this using multi region players.

But to tell the truth it is much easier for you if you are making the DVD to just make it region free in the first place - a simple selection in software.

Cheers

Stuart

PS upload the video clip to the gallery!!

***caveseeker7*** · 24th March 2005, 19:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by BullHead)

Where and when can I/we buy Rebreathers Volume I DVD/NTSC?

There is info on the video at Mad Dog Expedition 's website, for availability of the DVD e-mail them or check with Ken.

BullHead · 24th March 2005, 20:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

There is info on the video at Mad Dog Expedition 's website, for availability of the DVD e-mail them or check with Ken.

Thank you, i will mail them as soon as possible.

24th March 2005, 11:51	#1 (permalink)
Ken Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 326	Questions about PAL and DVD in Europe I'm compressing Rebreathers Volume I into DVD/NTSC on my Macintosh. My general question is: Do most people (technicall savvy) use multi-format DVD players? I am most focused on the UK, Italy, Germany and France? The early info. I get is that DVD/NTSC doesnt usually pose any viewing difficulties. Many thanks. Ken
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24th March 2005, 13:38	#2 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Ken, Welcome again to the best re-breather site in the world! Although I don't use a Mac, I do a lot of video. I am interested in all that you find out about the DVD/PAL/NTSC deal. Rob __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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24th March 2005, 15:39	#3 (permalink)
DoubleTop Rebreather World Greeter and How do I? Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reading, Berks, UK Posts: 145	most DVD players available for sale in the UK are multi region or home region +1 secondary region. There is also an increasing amount of DivX capable DVD players hitting the UK markets as well and then the multi function recorders, mp3, divx super duper units. I have a few friends who are far more savy on this than me, but I would say that the people in Europe who are likely to 'import' are going to be able to play anything on a DVD disk. DT.
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24th March 2005, 16:16	#4 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Micha from EKPP send me two of their cave DVDs, just send him a mail and asked if he had to do anything special so I could play them on our NTSC systems. Ken, are you with MadDog? When I received my video the player acted up so I pulled a copy for myself on DVD. Send Andrew a copy and asked him if he wanted me to chapter it so he could make and sell them as DVDs. Thought it might be more cost effective and attractive ... never heard back. I figured if can sell some more we might actually get Volume II some day. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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24th March 2005, 16:56	#5 (permalink)
Ken Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 326	Hi Rob, Double-Top and Stefan, Thanks for your advice and assistance. From what I gather most folks, or rebreather folks have multi-regional capable players. That being the case the first batch of Rebreather Vol 1 will be NTSC. Yes, I am with Mad Dog. We've been working on RB Vol II since last year and accumulating some interesting footage including a deep penetration of the Jodrey. The Jodrey artilce was featured in the last IANTD Nitrox Diver. It's really cool in there as well as truly hazardous. I think Andy mentioned you with regards to archiving to DVD...but somewhere along the way??? He's off on expedition in some warm place right now. Arrrgh. If you fellows leave me your e-mail addresses in my box I can send you a prototype teaser clip. 1.9 mb Quicktime. mov file Cheers. Ken
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24th March 2005, 17:32	#6 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ken) We've been working on Rebreather Vol II since last year ... That's cool, I really liked Vol I. A lot of footage of the rebreathers, and as you can see in my PRISM article I was inpired to use the "tour around the loop" idea. Had done it a couple of times verbally with a rig at hand it works so well when explaining it. I still think it's the best combination of some basic general knowledge combined with unit specific footage. The latter is important to keep the intrest of people new to the subject as well as making it worth watching more than once. I'm looking forward to the second volume. Thanks to thse involved in the projects. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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24th March 2005, 18:34	#7 (permalink)
BullHead New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ray Other Rebreather/s: Ray Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oxelösund - Sweden Posts: 45	Where and when can I/we buy Rebreathers Volume I DVD/NTSC?
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24th March 2005, 19:03	#8 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,559	Pal / NTSC and the region on the DVD are 2 different things. Most European TVs will play either PAL or NTSC - which is the broadcast format. DVD players have region encoding which are supposed to stop dvds from USA playing in Eu and vice versa - this is different to PAL/NTSC. You can get around this using multi region players. But to tell the truth it is much easier for you if you are making the DVD to just make it region free in the first place - a simple selection in software. Cheers Stuart PS upload the video clip to the gallery!!
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24th March 2005, 19:13	#9 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Quote: (Originally Posted by BullHead) Where and when can I/we buy Rebreathers Volume I DVD/NTSC? There is info on the video at Mad Dog Expedition 's website, for availability of the DVD e-mail them or check with Ken. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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24th March 2005, 20:06	#10 (permalink)
BullHead New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ray Other Rebreather/s: Ray Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oxelösund - Sweden Posts: 45	Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) There is info on the video at Mad Dog Expedition 's website, for availability of the DVD e-mail them or check with Ken. Thank you, i will mail them as soon as possible.
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