mCCR or eCCR for video filming

rogeringebo · 12th January 2008, 19:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

I saw your video here, and seen Peter's (PCDiver) video.

In my amateur eyes, not sure you should be advicing Peter about videoing...

Maybe not.......but maybe I can advise on MCCR rebreather diving......
I dont need a HUD, solenoid, vibrating moutpiece, and electronics to support other electronics to stay alive.
If you do....leave the camera in the boat....
Thats my honest opinion.

Rodge

rogeringebo · 12th January 2008, 19:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver)

Roger,

how do you handle the type of shot that I mentioned (filming and going up at the same time, with both hands on the camera)?

Peter

If I feel I want to film on ascent and I cant ad O2 manually I just let it drop.
I normally do not film more than 5 sec at the time unless it is some thing really spectacular going on. If that is the case I ad O2 between shots when I get the chance.........or just turn up the needle valve (Pelagian)....
Dropping your po2 for a minute or two does not effect your deco schedule much really.
I am not in any way a video expert........but I do dive a lot of MCCR...

Cheers
Roger

rogeringebo · 12th January 2008, 19:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy)

Starting at ppO2 of 1.0 (conservative eh?) then ascending all the way to the surface gives you a ppO2 of 0.25 which is still perfectly breathable.

I'm not advocating it as standard practise. I'm just pointing out that if you have the opportunity to make the once-in-a-lifetime-shot then you should do it. Even better you can dive down again without having to flush your loop to get rid of all the O2 an eCCR would have injected on the way down

.

A coin usually has two sides....

That is my point!
Happy diving to all!

Rodge

Totto · 12th January 2008, 19:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

I dont need a HUD, solenoid, vibrating moutpiece, and electronics to support other electronics to stay alive.

So how do you monitor the pO2 while filming?

Tor

rogeringebo · 12th January 2008, 19:37

If you dive a MCCR with continous flow and do not change depth dramaticly your po2 will not change very much.
I clip my po2 meter to my camera housing and use a monitor as a viewfinder for my camera so I can shoot video and monitor my po2 at the same time.
I just glance down on my po2 meter as I keep the object I am filming in the corner of my eye.
With a continous flow in a MCCR you do not get the peaks you get when the solenoid fire on a ECCR.
If I want to ascend I just let the po2 drop.
Luckily most aquatic life swim horizontal so most of the time I do not have to do any forced ascents.
I had a ECCR with a HUD before and that was fine too.

Roger

rogeringebo · 12th January 2008, 19:51

This was originally a reply to Decodiver but his post is now gone.......

I did my Pelagian training in 2005 and have around 500 hours on the unit.
I make my living as a tech instructor here in the Philippines, what are you getting at?
Dont you think I can kep my po2

Roger

JonORunde · 12th January 2008, 19:53

As offpro says, we are a few Meg-divers in Norway now.
If you want to have a look at both a mCCR and eCCR, and ask questions abouth them, that can be arranged...
I live near Oslo, so give me a shout if you are interrested

jon o

rogeringebo · 12th January 2008, 20:03

I am not saying shooting video is better done on a MCCR, I just say its perfectly doable.

Roger

Totto · 12th January 2008, 20:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonORunde)

As offpro says, we are a few Meg-divers in Norway now.
If you want to have a look at both a mCCR and eCCR, and ask questions abouth them, that can be arranged...
I live near Oslo, so give me a shout if you are interrested

jon o

Sent you a PM

decoweenie · 12th January 2008, 20:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

This was originally a reply to Decodiver but his post is now gone.......

I deleted my post because I don't want to interfere with something you make your living with.

12th January 2008, 19:14	#11 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) I saw your video here, and seen Peter's (PCDiver) video. In my amateur eyes, not sure you should be advicing Peter about videoing... Maybe not.......but maybe I can advise on MCCR rebreather diving...... I dont need a HUD, solenoid, vibrating moutpiece, and electronics to support other electronics to stay alive. If you do....leave the camera in the boat.... Thats my honest opinion. Rodge Last edited by rogeringebo : 12th January 2008 at 19:31.
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12th January 2008, 19:20	#12 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver) Roger, how do you handle the type of shot that I mentioned (filming and going up at the same time, with both hands on the camera)? Peter If I feel I want to film on ascent and I cant ad O2 manually I just let it drop. I normally do not film more than 5 sec at the time unless it is some thing really spectacular going on. If that is the case I ad O2 between shots when I get the chance.........or just turn up the needle valve (Pelagian).... Dropping your po2 for a minute or two does not effect your deco schedule much really. I am not in any way a video expert........but I do dive a lot of MCCR... Cheers Roger
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12th January 2008, 19:23	#13 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy) Starting at ppO2 of 1.0 (conservative eh?) then ascending all the way to the surface gives you a ppO2 of 0.25 which is still perfectly breathable. I'm not advocating it as standard practise. I'm just pointing out that if you have the opportunity to make the once-in-a-lifetime-shot then you should do it. Even better you can dive down again without having to flush your loop to get rid of all the O2 an eCCR would have injected on the way down . A coin usually has two sides.... That is my point! Happy diving to all! Rodge
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12th January 2008, 19:27	#14 (permalink)
Totto New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midgardr Posts: 19	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) I dont need a HUD, solenoid, vibrating moutpiece, and electronics to support other electronics to stay alive. So how do you monitor the pO2 while filming? Tor __________________ Wasting gas since -82 http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TottoDiver
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12th January 2008, 19:37	#15 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming If you dive a MCCR with continous flow and do not change depth dramaticly your po2 will not change very much. I clip my po2 meter to my camera housing and use a monitor as a viewfinder for my camera so I can shoot video and monitor my po2 at the same time. I just glance down on my po2 meter as I keep the object I am filming in the corner of my eye. With a continous flow in a MCCR you do not get the peaks you get when the solenoid fire on a ECCR. If I want to ascend I just let the po2 drop. Luckily most aquatic life swim horizontal so most of the time I do not have to do any forced ascents. I had a ECCR with a HUD before and that was fine too. Roger Last edited by rogeringebo : 12th January 2008 at 20:06.
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12th January 2008, 19:51	#16 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming This was originally a reply to Decodiver but his post is now gone....... I did my Pelagian training in 2005 and have around 500 hours on the unit. I make my living as a tech instructor here in the Philippines, what are you getting at? Dont you think I can kep my po2 Roger Last edited by rogeringebo : 12th January 2008 at 20:01.
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12th January 2008, 19:53	#17 (permalink)
JonORunde New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 88	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming As offpro says, we are a few Meg-divers in Norway now. If you want to have a look at both a mCCR and eCCR, and ask questions abouth them, that can be arranged... I live near Oslo, so give me a shout if you are interrested jon o
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12th January 2008, 20:03	#18 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 702	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming I am not saying shooting video is better done on a MCCR, I just say its perfectly doable. Roger
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Totto New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midgardr Posts: 19	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming Quote: (Originally Posted by JonORunde) As offpro says, we are a few Meg-divers in Norway now. If you want to have a look at both a mCCR and eCCR, and ask questions abouth them, that can be arranged... I live near Oslo, so give me a shout if you are interrested jon o Sent you a PM __________________ Wasting gas since -82 http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TottoDiver
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12th January 2008, 20:16	#20 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: mCCR or eCCR for video filming Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) This was originally a reply to Decodiver but his post is now gone....... I deleted my post because I don't want to interfere with something you make your living with.
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