What wing for the Pelagian

Mr_Pyro

What wings do you guys use with your Pelagians?

As I understand it a short wing with a narrow neck is preferable, or?

What are your thoughts on horseshoe vs donut (360 deg) shape for the Pelagian. Is there a need to have extra lift at the but as you'd get with a donut shaped wing? Or is the Pelagian front heavy enough to produce good trim with a horseshoe shaped wing?

What about inflator hose placement? Preefered position on the wing?
Dumpvalves, position, numbers?

Has anyone tried it with a Deep Sea Supply Rebreather-40 wing?
https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1304
or this one https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=795

What about Oxycheck's Vertes Signature 42lb wing?

Custom Divers VBS (31-47LBS) Variable Buoyancy System
Quality Diving Equipment by Custom Divers - VARIABLE BUOYANCY (31-47 LBS)SYSTEM (With b/plate, Tech harness complete).

Or the El chepo wing; Aquatech X-wing, maybe without the airhorn ;-)
X-Wing BCD [BC-003] : AQUATEC USA, Scuba Diving Equipment

Cheers
/Mr_Pyro

recomprssd

what did the rebreatherlab guys recommend?


dave t

rogeringebo

I have a Oxycheq 45 lbs for drysuit diving and will get a OMS 60lbs doubble bladder for wet suit....
Just tighten the bunge behind the head a bit and it works fine...

Cheers
Roger

Jasper180

They appear to be pretty tight with Oxycheq, from their site:

Oxycheq have a great selection of wings, back plates, O2 sensors, analyzers and other useful things. We carry their line at same prices, but if you are closer to the US than Asia, you can save on freight buying direct from them.

Erik

rogeringebo

I know that Andy at Rebreatherlab is working on his own tailor made wing for Pelagian

Roger

Rebreatherlab

Hmm. Lets see if I can help explain the reasoning behind our recommendations;

1 First of all you need to have lift enough to float you with a fully flooded loop at the surface, plus any stages and extra gear you might have clipped on. This usually equates to min. 40 LB, but pref. a bit more. Some manufacturers advertise CCR wings with 30 LB lift. That is great, but not with a flooded loop, unless you are in a dry suit with intact neck seal.

2 Low top volume. This is not so much to reduce top lift as the Pelagian is nicely balanced as it is and usually trims out ok with out any help from the wing. The reason is that the unit is very compact so it gets a bit crammed behind your head.

3 Short length. The lenght of the Pelagian X-plate is the same as a standard back plate. If you use a standard length wing, everytime you stand the unit on the boat deck the wing gets bent forward or end up under the tanks. Not great in the long run and with some bad luck you might crack a pull dump. Donut wings will also end up under the scrubber.

4 Inflator placement. The elbow should sit on the rear part. Not the front as it gets wedged between the wing and your back and it's harder to position the inflator. The position can be anywhere between the center to a few inch toward your left. Should not have any pull dump.

5 Dont pick a single tank wing. The inflatable area will be reduced as half of the wing will be sandwiched between the x-plate and your back plate. I tried a 30 LB Halcyon single tank donut one time and it was the only time I wished I had a snorkel!

The Diverite Trek wing is short and fit well, but could have a few more pounds lift. A bit top bulky, but you can restrict that with some bungee. Dont know about quality, but looks allright.

The Pelagian wing will take some time until it's finished but it will be about 50 LB lift, short, low top and quite wide. It will come as a single cell wing with option of adding another cell, dump and inflator as a DIY kit.

Andy

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recomprssd

oxycheq has several single bladder wings for dual tanks

vertex "extreme" and "signature" and "razor" in 42, 50, or 55 pounds of lift

they mention the "extreme" 42 pound as nice with the KISS.

is the 42 rebreatherlab recommended for the pelegian?

i plan on cold water, dry suit diving.

dave t

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