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Old 15th December 2007, 17:22   #21 (permalink)
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Re: 147m on Pelagian

Hello Outlaw,

the sound is a little muffled but you get the effect (mostly of it banging into the bailout bottles

Regarding diving the Victoria from Cyprus I would say there is zero chance of this but will do some enquiries for you.

The site has a protection order and groups need express permission and a guide. If you need details regarding prices and dates etc then send me a pm and i will send them over.

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Old 15th December 2007, 17:51   #22 (permalink)
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I've "fished" three of these to 160m. The only one that went pop was one that had been rolling around on the seabed before it was found - and it failed at the base, not the bezel which was weird.

As you say, 150m housing for next to nothing.

(I find the sound comes out great underwater, a bit less good on land.)
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Old 15th December 2007, 18:04   #23 (permalink)
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I've "fished" three of these to 160m. The only one that went pop was one that had been rolling around on the seabed before it was found - and it failed at the base, not the bezel which was weird.

As you say, 150m housing for next to nothing.

(I find the sound comes out great underwater, a bit less good on land.)
Hey Mark,

thanks for the reply. very nice of you. i was planning to seek permissions on official visit status. initial thought was to arrive in Lebanon and after dives to go to harbour, sleep the night in hotel and next day dive again. that will be for 3-4 days.

if you can help out, then i'll appreciate it a lot. join in if you like. it will be a rebreather only expedition...

am very glad i saw your post here. i'll send you a pic. i hope you recognize this dude!

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Old 15th December 2007, 18:22   #24 (permalink)
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haha, who is that stud muffin dude in the SDI shirt?

my funniest recollection at that diveshow was someone coming up to the stand and asking whether it was the TDI or IANTD booth...one of his friends then chipped in with 'look at the beer bellies - it must be the TDI stand' he was right on the money all the IANTD gurus are built like racing snakes for warm water diving and the TDI dons are a little more polar bear esque for chilly water dips

A lady then asked about an Inspo course to one of the many instructors that were busy freeloading on the stand...His classic answer was 'is it for your boyfriend luv? - boxes aint for birds you know' YUSS!

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Old 15th December 2007, 19:00   #25 (permalink)
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haha, who is that stud muffin dude in the SDI shirt?

'is it for your boyfriend luv? - boxes aint for birds you know' YUSS!

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Old 15th December 2007, 20:43   #26 (permalink)
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brilliant! just curious...what are the dimensions of the camera (which model?)? and how does the picture look through the plastic lens, rather than a more expensive glass lens?

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I've "fished" three of these to 160m. The only one that went pop was one that had been rolling around on the seabed before it was found - and it failed at the base, not the bezel which was weird.

As you say, 150m housing for next to nothing.

(I find the sound comes out great underwater, a bit less good on land.)
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Re: 147m on Pelagian

Hey Mark

good to hear that you moved to the dark side of CCR




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Ive put my Panasonic SD5 High Def camcorder in an D8 torch body...works fantastic - it records everything unfortunately due to having no buttons but try getting a 150m rated camera housing for under £50 elsewhere
what is the D8 rated for ?


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Decided to run 1.5po2 on the bottom with 1.2po2 during the stops - only 12 dives like this so far but the 4 divers who tried it with me all said they felt better afterwards.
??? why not the opposite? 1.2 on the bottom to avoid oxtox when playing around/inside the wreck (as doing physical exercize) and knowing that cells reading can be innacurate up to 10%; and high ppo2 on deco when standing still ? that's what I'm doing since a few years but maybe I Do It Wrong ?

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Old 16th December 2007, 10:32   #28 (permalink)
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Re: 147m on Pelagian

(Perhaps a Mod might split this out to avoid the thread hijack?)

The camera is an old Sony Handycam IP55e. It's micro-MV format, now obsolete and a PITA to get, but very tiny! (And now cheap!) It takes nice footage though, even in low light. Some of the newer DV format cameras are now as small, so I guess you'd need to take your torch body to a camera shop and find one which fits!

Sound travels through the case very well in water. It's muffled in air, but it picks up every word you say through the DSV underwater, which is a mixed blessing if you like to sing along to your MP3 player...

I've had several new bezels and they all are fairly uniform with a slight distortion in places. However, because the camera is butted right up to the bezel, this becomes irrelevant. The biggest problem is actually scratches - on the front and on the inside if the camera is too far forward. These are invisible normally, but if the camera loses focus for a second, it pulls back and focuses on them until there is something in front to give it something better to focus on.

They are quite buoyant, and I've had good results using it with a lead block strapped to the side and holding it in my hands. However, I am getting the best footage now from jubilee-clipping it to my dive helmet. Much less jerky, there's always light in the right place, and it doesn't spoil my dive like having it in my hands does.

Fred at Underwater Kinetics tells me that the bezels normally fail at around 150m - they invert and that's that. I think they may be persuaded a little deeper, but not much.

Next job is to link the torch switch to the Record button - at the moment I just press Record, put the bezel on and go diving. Hopefully the good stuff happens during the hour that the tape can hold.

If anyone has any good ideas regarding software for Video-editing using MicroMV then I'm all ears. I use ULead at the moment but it's a PITA.

HTH

(Sorry for the hijack Mr E! )

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brilliant! just curious...what are the dimensions of the camera (which model?)? and how does the picture look through the plastic lens, rather than a more expensive glass lens?
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Old 16th December 2007, 11:11   #29 (permalink)
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I use a D8 torch body which is rated 150m +. The older UK800 and UK1200 bodies fail much shallower. Ive had UK800 bodies crushing around the battery on 150m dives back in 95 and 96. The D range is so much stronger, my current one was bought in 97 or 98 and has done dozens of sub 400' dives with a few to 600' also with no obvious signs of flexing.

The camera is a Panasonic HDC SD5 (a very small 3ccd High Definition camera) and fits perfectly inside. The easiet route is to take your torch body to currys/dixons and try out some cameras inside. If you use an old bezel then (like mine) you may have damage and imperfections due to bulb heat and scratches. A new bezel is cheap enough and gives you a head start on floods too

Im working on a ccd headcam lens at the moment inserted in a greenforce back-up torch body connected directly to a 8gb memory stick. Its small enough to attach to a mask strap and has no wires or battery packs like others. The D8/SD5 option has a much better picture though o'course especially in low light.

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Started to use 1.5 at depth because thats when the scrubber initially has the most life. Also, high po2 reduces deco obligations slightly, then dropping to 1.3 by by 1st stop and then 1.2 through the stops. The idea of this is to give lungs an easier ride on long decos and improve their effeciency. Ive done some 4-5 hour decos but didnt really notice any difference, but can see only pseudo science in the traditional routes (low po2 at depth/high in deco) and some at least academic benefits the other way round.

High Po2 in deco is where the lungs get frazzled (on long dives of course). Co2 hits shallow or deep have the same outcome, fresh lime of a good grade is the only protection. Ive never read any Oxtox stories at anything less than way over 2.0bar. Ive have all the USN navy oxtox study data and most of the sub 2.0bar hits were on 02 rebreathers for long periods or exercisng plenty. Still, as youve read this on the internet I would take it with a council gritter of salt and then tread very carefully
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Started to use 1.5 at depth because thats when the scrubber initially has the most life. Also, high po2 reduces deco obligations slightly, then dropping to 1.3 by by 1st stop and then 1.2 through the stops. The idea of this is to give lungs an easier ride on long decos and improve their effeciency. Ive done some 4-5 hour decos but didnt really notice any difference, but can see only pseudo science in the traditional routes (low po2 at depth/high in deco) and some at least academic benefits the other way round.
Mark, we have a recent example in Florida of a female cave diver who suffered an oxtox while at 1.45 PO2. If the high PO2 that you are using at depth has just a marginal improvement of overall deco obligation, why push the margins for limited results? Just curious?

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