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Old 6th November 2006, 00:39   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Filter For OPV

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Never needed to bail out of a jet or a rebreather.... but fully prepared to do either..

With formal schooling at the degree level in diving science and several years spent as an industrial mixed gas diver using rebreathers every day, my opinions are based on the facts personally observed in the conduct of literally thousands of mixed gas dives *averaging* 500 FSW. In the oil field, what we do as divers for "extreme sport" is a daily job.... just another days dive and depth bonus opportunity.

02 cleaning is a great idea if you are working with *high pressure* 02, but is nonessential in a low pressure environment. Feel free to do it, but low pressure seals in a 02 environment can be lubed with about anything. Feel free to use Halocarbon if you like, but we survived using vaseline or normal siliconme grease at low pressure and reserved Halocarbon for HP regulators and valves where there *was* the potential for high temperatures caused by debris impinging into a sonic velocity gas stream. Ain't nothing else going to cause enough heat for a fire!

In water-pure 02 deco at 40 FSW was observed by me personally for literally *thousands* of hours., right out of the US Navy dive manual and using the tables custom produced for us by Dr. Bill Hamilton..... and we never saw an 02 tox symptom ever. We did *much* longer 40 foot chamber decompressions (hours) after the in-water portion of the deco was done and never saw an issue there either. Every 6 months each diver did a 60 FSW for 30 minute chamber run on pure 02 for the "02 tolerance test" and in literally hundreds of chamber runs we *never* had a hit. Don't take me wrong: 02 tox *is* an issue, just that it's a "fuzzy" limit and not a "hard" one. Go see how the SEALs use LAR-V's for emergency combat escape dives to 75 feet plus (diving in an emergency to below hand-grenade sinking depth) and then talk to me.

My only point is to just be reasonable in your approach to these things and let's not all get nuts about "02 compatability of scotchbrite pads", that's all. They are a great tool for many things. Come to think about it, we used them as noise silencers in our helmets too (Divex 3000 and Aquadyne GH-2, each with their umbilical-fed SCC rebreather systems).


Sorry to get off topic.... but it's good data. I only saw two divers die offshore... both due to low PP02 (in one bell-bounce system accident...) but never saw an 02 fire or a 02 tox symptom ever.





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Old 6th November 2006, 14:25   #12 (permalink)
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Hi Frankie, long time no see! Think the last time I saw you were were at Dans eating tacos...

What comes around goes around... Scotchbrite pads as the original factory 'sorb filter to keep the crap outta the rest of the rig

Good on ya for rediscovering this. Must be the good Jersey seawater...


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Hey Dave good to here from you.

When I installed this filter I thought to myself what a awesome idea. And when it worked....I was excited to past it on to the Boris divers. Well..... little did I know about it's past history and what you used it for. Thanks for the history lesson and it's good to know it's a proven material.

Stripes are HUGE this time of the season. Have you had any luck out east???
last week I was diving my Boris just out side New York harbor (around Swinburne and Hoffman Island) I couldn't believe the monsters swimming by me . I was at work so I didn't have my spear gun. With the Boris it really is cheating any way. Hope all is well
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Old 6th November 2006, 14:58   #13 (permalink)
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Hey Dave good to here from you.

Stripes are HUGE this time of the season. Have you had any luck out east???
last week I was diving my Boris just out side New York harbor (around Swinburne and Hoffman Island) I couldn't believe the monsters swimming by me . I was at work so I didn't have my spear gun. With the Boris it really is cheating any way. Hope all is well
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NYC water.... no wonder you're seeing things...

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Old 6th November 2006, 15:27   #14 (permalink)
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Floor polishing pads cut to size would probably also work for that. I found them in Duncans D5 and they really are nice. Small pores and low WOB even when soaked.

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Dear Jaap
I guess some Rebreather guys think the same....
I was at work when I saw a guy polishing the floor and the filter idea came to me when he lifted up the machine. I went to the cleaning supply stock room and took all the middles out of the different polishing pads. (fine,medium and coarse) The boxes holding the pads had scotch brite writen all over them. After looking at the pads I realized that the green square ones at my local super market would work best because there all ready 1/2 inch thick.

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