Boris loop hoses

Woz · 17th July 2006, 14:46

Just had a play with a Boris and well it is a very well engineered unit- nicely thought out etc. I did notice that the loop hoses appear to be bog standard industrial polyurethane hose with a green kevlar hose wrap shrunk on top. So- just in case any of you lot pop a loop hose, I thought you might be interested in this...

Product code 5388025 from www.arco.co.uk

Drmike · 17th July 2006, 18:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Woz)

Just had a play with a Boris and well it is a very well engineered unit- nicely thought out etc. I did notice that the loop hoses appear to be bog standard industrial polyurethane hose with a green kevlar hose wrap shrunk on top. So- just in case any of you lot pop a loop hose, I thought you might be interested in this...

Product code 5388025 from www.arco.co.uk

You really have to stop smoking that stuff

Digger · 17th July 2006, 19:57

Woz,

Want to get a sample in, and I'll test it? I only need a couple of metres to find out, you could have a great product on your hands

Clear hardcore loop hoses might just be the answer to some of the bling ideas I've been having. All I need now is a HUD which comes as a set of Xmas lights and I can mount along the back. The unit will light up like a tree every time the HUD lights!

Digs.

EDIT - Sorry, I just reread your original post. "In case you pop one"??? How exactly do you intend to pop one of these things? Whatever breaks a loop hose on one of them has probably clean removed your head. So no need for new hoses.

lizardland · 17th July 2006, 22:24

Most rebreather hoses have cuffs moulded on the ends for making the connection with the hard bits of the Rebreather. Does the Ouroboros?

Having tried similar crushproof ducting on my homebuilds, it's feckin hard getting a decent seal without a smooth cuff.

Andy M · 17th July 2006, 22:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

Having tried similar crushproof ducting on my homebuilds, it's feckin hard getting a decent seal without a smooth cuff.

Does it matter about cuffs if the internal is smooth bore?

Andy

narked at 90 · 17th July 2006, 22:55

I've used this ducting it is a spiral core you will not seal it to the degree we need and i used it for a mobile cnc and it breaks after a wile.......i would not use it for CCR:-(......looks good as you can see the cocktail coming before you swallow!
regards john
www.narkedat90.co.uk

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

Does it matter about cuffs if the internal is smooth bore?

Andy

lizardland · 18th July 2006, 08:51

Quote:

it breaks after a wile

Same happened to mine, especially in the cold. The stuff I used tended to tear between the ribs anywhere the hose flexed against a hard edge (i.e. at the connection ends). And with it being crush resistant it is hard to clamp it on to a connection to get a good enough seal.

Woz · 18th July 2006, 13:58

Well the hose on a Boris is this stuff. It's identical. The connectors on a Boris appear not to be moulded but are a larger version of the connector you get on the end of an AP Valves corrugated hose on a standard jacket- a split collar with an external nut.

jhaaja · 18th July 2006, 14:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Woz)

Well the hose on a Boris is this stuff. It's identical. The connectors on a Boris appear not to be moulded but are a larger version of the connector you get on the end of an AP Valves corrugated hose on a standard jacket- a split collar with an external nut.

I thought that Boris has Cooper hoses, made in the US.

JH

Drmike · 18th July 2006, 14:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Woz)

Well the hose on a Boris is this stuff. It's identical. The connectors on a Boris appear not to be moulded but are a larger version of the connector you get on the end of an AP Valves corrugated hose on a standard jacket- a split collar with an external nut.

According to the fact sheet the Acro hoses are spiral wound - but other than that, the colour, the covering material, the moulded non corrugated end pieces - yes they are identical

17th July 2006, 14:46	#1 (permalink)
Woz Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 185	Boris loop hoses Just had a play with a Boris and well it is a very well engineered unit- nicely thought out etc. I did notice that the loop hoses appear to be bog standard industrial polyurethane hose with a green kevlar hose wrap shrunk on top. So- just in case any of you lot pop a loop hose, I thought you might be interested in this... Product code 5388025 from www.arco.co.uk __________________ Still punting shiny diving tatt to gullible divers www.kitfondle.co.uk
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17th July 2006, 18:41	#2 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,128	Re: Boris loop hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by Woz) Just had a play with a Boris and well it is a very well engineered unit- nicely thought out etc. I did notice that the loop hoses appear to be bog standard industrial polyurethane hose with a green kevlar hose wrap shrunk on top. So- just in case any of you lot pop a loop hose, I thought you might be interested in this... Product code 5388025 from www.arco.co.uk You really have to stop smoking that stuff __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you
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17th July 2006, 19:57	#3 (permalink)
Digger Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 205	Re: Boris loop hoses Woz, Want to get a sample in, and I'll test it? I only need a couple of metres to find out, you could have a great product on your hands Clear hardcore loop hoses might just be the answer to some of the bling ideas I've been having. All I need now is a HUD which comes as a set of Xmas lights and I can mount along the back. The unit will light up like a tree every time the HUD lights! Digs. EDIT - Sorry, I just reread your original post. "In case you pop one"??? How exactly do you intend to pop one of these things? Whatever breaks a loop hose on one of them has probably clean removed your head. So no need for new hoses. Last edited by Digger : 17th July 2006 at 20:00.
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17th July 2006, 22:24	#4 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,186	Re: Boris loop hoses Most rebreather hoses have cuffs moulded on the ends for making the connection with the hard bits of the Rebreather. Does the Ouroboros? Having tried similar crushproof ducting on my homebuilds, it's feckin hard getting a decent seal without a smooth cuff. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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17th July 2006, 22:35	#5 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 410	Re: Boris loop hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) Having tried similar crushproof ducting on my homebuilds, it's feckin hard getting a decent seal without a smooth cuff. Does it matter about cuffs if the internal is smooth bore? Andy __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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17th July 2006, 22:55	#6 (permalink)
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18th July 2006, 08:51	#7 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,186	Re: Boris loop hoses Quote: it breaks after a wile Same happened to mine, especially in the cold. The stuff I used tended to tear between the ribs anywhere the hose flexed against a hard edge (i.e. at the connection ends). And with it being crush resistant it is hard to clamp it on to a connection to get a good enough seal. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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18th July 2006, 13:58	#8 (permalink)
Woz Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 185	Re: Boris loop hoses Well the hose on a Boris is this stuff. It's identical. The connectors on a Boris appear not to be moulded but are a larger version of the connector you get on the end of an AP Valves corrugated hose on a standard jacket- a split collar with an external nut. __________________ Still punting shiny diving tatt to gullible divers www.kitfondle.co.uk
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18th July 2006, 14:15	#9 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Boris loop hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by Woz) Well the hose on a Boris is this stuff. It's identical. The connectors on a Boris appear not to be moulded but are a larger version of the connector you get on the end of an AP Valves corrugated hose on a standard jacket- a split collar with an external nut. I thought that Boris has Cooper hoses, made in the US. JH
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18th July 2006, 14:39	#10 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,128	Re: Boris loop hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by Woz) Well the hose on a Boris is this stuff. It's identical. The connectors on a Boris appear not to be moulded but are a larger version of the connector you get on the end of an AP Valves corrugated hose on a standard jacket- a split collar with an external nut. According to the fact sheet the Acro hoses are spiral wound - but other than that, the colour, the covering material, the moulded non corrugated end pieces - yes they are identical __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you Last edited by Drmike : 18th July 2006 at 14:41. Reason: spelling
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