Boris course with Phil at Stoney

Drmike · 18th April 2006, 19:34

Just back from Stoney.

What a laugh!

- Phil is as mad as a box of frogs

- 6 degrees C water
- 9 hours diving over 4 days
- Flooded drysuit 1st dive
- Flooded drygloves all but last 2 dives
- Stoney looks like a car boot sale for dive gear
- Lots of YBODs and a fine collection of some seriously strokey looking gear

- Staff are really great (cups of tea brought to us after every dive

)
- Very very good unit
- WOB is superb
- Very easy to dive
- Electronics package to die for
- I like the Deco hud a lot

I had a lot of fun on this course. The people I met, Phil, the staff at Stoney and the Rebreather World guys who came by to say hello made it a great little holiday for me. Boris is already sadly quite scratched.

Ill put some pics up on my site when I get to a faster connection

CCR900 · 18th April 2006, 20:08

You are giving me nasty flash backs, especially Phil in his undersuit......

Stayed in a nice B&W cottage with a cooked breakfast to kill for & you got the little bed??

F

divetheworld · 18th April 2006, 20:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Just back from Stoney.

What a laugh!

- Phil is as mad as a box of frogs

- 6 degrees C water
- 9 hours diving over 4 days
- Flooded drysuit 1st dive
- Flooded drygloves all but last 2 dives
- Stoney looks like a car boot sale for dive gear
- Lots of YBODs and a fine collection of some seriously strokey looking gear

- Staff are really great (cups of tea brought to us after every dive

)
- Very very good unit
- WOB is superb
- Very easy to dive
- Electronics package to die for
- I like the Deco hud a lot

I had a lot of fun on this course. The people I met, Phil, the staff at Stoney and the Rebreather World guys who came by to say hello made it a great little holiday for me. Boris is already sadly quite scratched.

Ill put some pics up on my site when I get to a faster connection

John said he bumped into you, had a few good things to say. Shame I didnt get a chance to pop in to say hello.

Pleased you got on fine anyway.

Brent

bgpartri · 18th April 2006, 22:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Just back from Stoney.

- Electronics package to die for
- I like the Deco hud a lot

Which features of the electronics were particularly attractive for you?

***caveseeker7*** · 19th April 2006, 01:47

Good going, Mike, glad you enjoyed it.

By the way, I won't mind the scratches.

Drmike · 19th April 2006, 07:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgpartri)

Which features of the electronics were particularly attractive for you?

- I really like the start up tests you have to run through - the unit is booted up, checks run through then it sits on standby fully ready to dive. [i thought id hate them but as it happens i appreciate the added safety and peace of mind]
-o2 and dill pressure sensors (no spgs) with low pressure and high usage alarms as well as leak testing during start up
-integrated deco
- can do all deco off the hud (red light warns of ceiling and indicates when to stop and time to move to next stop
- vibrator is useful as I found it drew my attention faster than just the hud light alarm
- no lock outs
- easy to cal on any gas
- can turn off and on any cells
- easy to cal passive
- all alarms can be turned off

decoweenie · 19th April 2006, 08:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

- I really like the start up tests you have to run through

Mike, how long does this start-up tests take ?

Quote:

- can turn off and on any cells

Let's say if the remaining 2 cells disagree, how does the computer decide to inject O2 to maintain SP ?

Quote:

- easy to cal passive

Care to expand please ? Not sure I understand what that means...

And last, how does the size feel to you comparing to the YBOD and MK-15 units ? And swimability (OK, in a stagnant quarry, but you should have a feel for it still) ?

CCR900 · 19th April 2006, 08:59

Sr Weenie.

Passive is that bloomin' great block of Ali on the right side with 3 PO2 panels. You calibrate by twisting the back (3 black plugs) with a large coin (50p is good) which (just as with your KISS) brings the cells inline with a known PO2 value in the loop (normally 1.00). I hope that helps.

F

decoweenie · 19th April 2006, 09:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

Passive is that bloomin' great block of Ali on the right side with 3 PO2 panels. You calibrate by twisting the back (3 black plugs) with a large coin (50p is good) which (just as with your KISS) brings the cells inline with a known PO2 value in the loop (normally 1.00).

Senor CCR900,

Ah hah... in another word, "manual (non-electronic) calibration" is possible.

As I understand it, when you do an electronic-calibration on an eCCR, there is a calibration factor to correlate the sensor mV output to the displayed PO2 value (i.e. 10 mV = 0.21 PO2, and say for example 50 mV = 1.0 PO2, etc).

Now when you manually adjust the PO2 display, how does this calibration factor get corrected ? Is there a button to push to correlate the values ?

CCR900 · 19th April 2006, 10:55

The 'calibration factor', on the passive, is highly complicated and would take hours to explain! Alternatively you do your cailbration on the primary see the the PO2 readings and then compare them to the passive, you then adjust the passive to the primary. You can check the cell MV reading on the passive too but its very much a manaul flight option if your HUD and hand set go bye byes.

F
P.S. All ahndsets are reading off the same three cells, so by the primary adjusting during calibration so does the passive.

18th April 2006, 19:34	#1 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,157	Boris course with Phil at Stoney Just back from Stoney. What a laugh! - Phil is as mad as a box of frogs - 6 degrees C water - 9 hours diving over 4 days - Flooded drysuit 1st dive - Flooded drygloves all but last 2 dives - Stoney looks like a car boot sale for dive gear - Lots of YBODs and a fine collection of some seriously strokey looking gear - Staff are really great (cups of tea brought to us after every dive ) - Very very good unit - WOB is superb - Very easy to dive - Electronics package to die for - I like the Deco hud a lot I had a lot of fun on this course. The people I met, Phil, the staff at Stoney and the Rebreather World guys who came by to say hello made it a great little holiday for me. Boris is already sadly quite scratched. Ill put some pics up on my site when I get to a faster connection __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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18th April 2006, 20:08	#2 (permalink)
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18th April 2006, 20:16	#3 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,560	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) Just back from Stoney. What a laugh! - Phil is as mad as a box of frogs - 6 degrees C water - 9 hours diving over 4 days - Flooded drysuit 1st dive - Flooded drygloves all but last 2 dives - Stoney looks like a car boot sale for dive gear - Lots of YBODs and a fine collection of some seriously strokey looking gear - Staff are really great (cups of tea brought to us after every dive ) - Very very good unit - WOB is superb - Very easy to dive - Electronics package to die for - I like the Deco hud a lot I had a lot of fun on this course. The people I met, Phil, the staff at Stoney and the Rebreather World guys who came by to say hello made it a great little holiday for me. Boris is already sadly quite scratched. Ill put some pics up on my site when I get to a faster connection John said he bumped into you, had a few good things to say. Shame I didnt get a chance to pop in to say hello. Pleased you got on fine anyway. Brent __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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18th April 2006, 22:56	#4 (permalink)
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19th April 2006, 01:47	#5 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,435	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney Good going, Mike, glad you enjoyed it. By the way, I won't mind the scratches. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.'!"
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19th April 2006, 07:53	#6 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,157	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney Quote: (Originally Posted by bgpartri) Which features of the electronics were particularly attractive for you? - I really like the start up tests you have to run through - the unit is booted up, checks run through then it sits on standby fully ready to dive. [i thought id hate them but as it happens i appreciate the added safety and peace of mind] -o2 and dill pressure sensors (no spgs) with low pressure and high usage alarms as well as leak testing during start up -integrated deco - can do all deco off the hud (red light warns of ceiling and indicates when to stop and time to move to next stop - vibrator is useful as I found it drew my attention faster than just the hud light alarm - no lock outs - easy to cal on any gas - can turn off and on any cells - easy to cal passive - all alarms can be turned off __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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19th April 2006, 08:07	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) - I really like the start up tests you have to run through Mike, how long does this start-up tests take ? Quote: - can turn off and on any cells Let's say if the remaining 2 cells disagree, how does the computer decide to inject O2 to maintain SP ? Quote: - easy to cal passive Care to expand please ? Not sure I understand what that means... And last, how does the size feel to you comparing to the YBOD and MK-15 units ? And swimability (OK, in a stagnant quarry, but you should have a feel for it still) ?
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19th April 2006, 08:59	#8 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney Sr Weenie. Passive is that bloomin' great block of Ali on the right side with 3 PO2 panels. You calibrate by twisting the back (3 black plugs) with a large coin (50p is good) which (just as with your KISS) brings the cells inline with a known PO2 value in the loop (normally 1.00). I hope that helps. F
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19th April 2006, 09:09	#9 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) Passive is that bloomin' great block of Ali on the right side with 3 PO2 panels. You calibrate by twisting the back (3 black plugs) with a large coin (50p is good) which (just as with your KISS) brings the cells inline with a known PO2 value in the loop (normally 1.00). Senor CCR900, Ah hah... in another word, "manual (non-electronic) calibration" is possible. As I understand it, when you do an electronic-calibration on an eCCR, there is a calibration factor to correlate the sensor mV output to the displayed PO2 value (i.e. 10 mV = 0.21 PO2, and say for example 50 mV = 1.0 PO2, etc). Now when you manually adjust the PO2 display, how does this calibration factor get corrected ? Is there a button to push to correlate the values ?
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19th April 2006, 10:55	#10 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Boris course with Phil at Stoney The 'calibration factor', on the passive, is highly complicated and would take hours to explain! Alternatively you do your cailbration on the primary see the the PO2 readings and then compare them to the passive, you then adjust the passive to the primary. You can check the cell MV reading on the passive too but its very much a manaul flight option if your HUD and hand set go bye byes. F P.S. All ahndsets are reading off the same three cells, so by the primary adjusting during calibration so does the passive.
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