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Old 16th March 2006, 17:07   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Boris Naked - Ouroboros Build Up!

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)
This is just IMHO, and I am sure others will disagree, but those are some of the worst reasons I have ever read about someone justify the decision to buy a US$15,000 CCR unit.
I'm one of the others again, seems to be the story of my life.

To be honest, I never bought into the "need" and "justification" nonsense to dive a Rebreather.
The prerequisite for that to apply would be a "need" to dive in the first place.
We would have scientific divers, commercial divers, PSDivers, military divers.
No recreational divers, no tech divers ... what for. Most all of us dive for shits giggles, because we always wanted to, because we love it.
Because we have that need, not because there is a need for us.

As I believe this to be the case, I can't see a sane reason to ask for a need to use a rebreather. Remember, non of their advantages "justify" diving in the first place.

"... as long as it makes you happy... is quite frankly the best reason to dive as well as to dive a rebreather ... or any equipment one can afford.

Of the reason's Ant listed only the first one, "the last I'll ever need", seems to be a bit blue eyed given DeltaP's VR3 tag line and opposite uprgading and price policy.

The second one regarding safety could be debated endlessly, but the Ouroboros seems rather well designed and I for one consider an independent secondary setup safer than dependent dual conrtollers. Just my opinion, but I do think to some extend he has a point there. In the end it's much more the diver, his state of mind and his skills that render any dive equipment safe or unsafe. But with a well designed Rebreather at least you're off to a good start in that respect.

Number 3, affordability and buyers ability to afford, is a good reason to buy, and the most likely people don't. You afforded plenty of rebreathers, and I don't think anyone here blames you for it. If anything we admire or even envy it. Especially since you didn't loose you shirt doing so. I would love to be able to buy and try them all, if just for the fun and experience. Hell, I would love to be able to sell the ones I don't like at a loss so someone else can afford them.

The next reason, having the time to go slowly about the steep learning curve seems like a sensible approch, too. Just look at many of the accidents, too much too soon.

The fifth reason, buying overengineered gear that exceeds ones capability might be mediocre, then again few people dive their YBOD's within inches of self destruction. And those who do probably should have gotten something else to retain a safety margin.

Number 6 really goes back to whatever makes you happy. Some people prefer multilevel electronics, others a power switch and an analog secondary. Good arguments can bemade for both, so I guess the personal preference is the deciding factor.

And the last reason, knowing and trusting the instructor, goes a long way in getting comfortable on the unit and insuring you walk away with the needed knowledge to build your skills and dive safe. Would you train with an instructor you don't know or know you don't trust? Somehow I don't see that happening anytime soon. And for the Boris Phil Straw seems to be one of the more experienced isntructors.

"... as long as it makes you happy... really is the bottom line, I believe.
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Old 22nd March 2006, 09:32   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Boris Naked - Ouroboros Build Up!

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)
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This is just IMHO, and I am sure others will disagree, but those are some of the worst reasons I have ever read about someone justify the decision to buy a US$15,000 CCR unit.

But as long as it makes you happy...


Ah well I can't say a response like that was entirely unexpected but it's not exactly constructive... It might be interesting to hear what Mr Decoweenies view on good reasons might be for choosing (a) to buy a rebreather or (b) to choose Brand X over Brand Y or is the "buy everything - sell the excess' method really applied?

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