Just ordered a Boris :D

***Decodiver*** · 12th February 2006, 11:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

but the trim is a bit to much "seahorse" for his liking and if you look at their homepage you see for yourself....

Hi Rodge,

There is no need for the seahorse effect to occur with correct weighting, the pgotos on the homepage at CCRB are of students on a course and as we all know, trim gets better dive after dive.

I find the Boris easier to swim than an Inspiration in fact.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

CCR900 · 12th February 2006, 20:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

There is no need for the seahorse effect to occur with correct weighting, the photos on the homepage at CCRB are of students on a course and as we all know, trim gets better dive after dive.

I find the Boris easier to swim than an Inspiration in fact.

I recently finished my Ouroborus course and tried hard not to compare negatively one unit against another. I find the Ouroborus breathes differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently. The Ouroborus swims differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently.

The Ouroborus feels heavier in the water but that just means I need no weight belt, I will have to keep a kilo or 2 on the top but having dived the Inpsiration for a while I had to use top weight on that too.

All in all a lovely piece of kit. Is it better than the Inspration probably yes but both are top tier units.

Fil

iani · 12th February 2006, 21:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

I recently finished my Ouroborus course and tried hard not to compare negatively one unit against another. I find the Ouroborus breathes differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently. The Ouroborus swims differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently.

The Ouroborus feels heavier in the water but that just means I need no weight belt, I will have to keep a kilo or 2 on the top but having dived the Inpsiration for a while I had to use top weight on that too.

All in all a lovely piece of kit. Is it better than the Inspration probably yes but both are top tier units.

Fil

Very interesting Fil, I also crossed over from the YBOD to Boris but I found Boris to be much better in the water, the unit feels much more comfortable. Whilst the unit is heavier it feels better even on dry land as the weight is higher up on my back, definately an improvement. In the water I find that boris feels a lot lighter than my YBOD did.

Ian

maischan · 13th February 2006, 04:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by mikedive)

Hey Mike,

Congratulations, in my point of view you did the best choice between the units actually on the market.... The unit really impressed me but with the tag price I still just dreaming ....

Can you give us some more details Mikedive on these points. What is making this CCR the best choice for you? What was so impressive in this tool compare to the rest of the CCR indroduced in the market so far.

CCR900 · 13th February 2006, 12:46

Iani

You are probably right I just want to dive the machine a little more before passing judgement. 10 hours is definatly not enough to get a real feel.

For me it's a bit like getting a new girlfriend yes the new one's got better t*ts but there is no need to say that the ex was a bad lay

.

I am very glad to have my new (but scuffed) Boris and will eventually let my Inspo go but only when I have the 50 hours and Tx softwware available.

F

rogeringebo · 13th February 2006, 13:44

Hi all you Boris divers

I just wonder if that very long breathing hose (full of air) doesnt make the Boris unecessary top boyant? Do anyone know why they build it with the long hoses? By the look of pictures it seems to be almost half a meter to long for my liking......They seem to stick way out from the preferred streamlined position....someone told me that you dont feel it when you dive but what about in a narrow cave or in a wreck?
Just curious
Best regards
Rodge

Mark Chase · 13th February 2006, 13:51

Personally I think the Boris is a stunning unit in terms of design and function. Unfortunately its even worse to travel with than the YBOD so it will never make my Christmas list.

My new travel frame is making transportation of the YBOD much easier so i am less inclined to get the meg at the moment but I must say in standard trim the Meg still wins for me as the best all round unit.

ATB

Mark Chase

CCR900 · 13th February 2006, 14:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

Hi all you Boris divers

I just wonder if that very long breathing hose (full of air) doesnt make the Boris unecessary top boyant? Do anyone know why they build it with the long hoses? By the look of pictures it seems to be almost half a meter to long for my liking......They seem to stick way out from the preferred streamlined position....someone told me that you dont feel it when you dive but what about in a narrow cave or in a wreck?
Just curious
Best regards
Rodge

The large/smooth bore hoses assist in reducing the size of the counter lungs (counterlungs are only 4.5 litre combined (me thinks)) whilst maintaining a very low WOB. They are steel reinforced hoses that are far heavier than the rubber hosing us see on 90% of rebreathers so you don't need counter weights and despite being long and large you just don't notice the loop as there are no counterlungs in front of you nor T pieces rubbing your ears.

I better shut up as I am starting to sound like I know what I am talking about....

Fil

bubnotbub · 13th February 2006, 14:46

Hi Fil,
may be we'll dive togheter in Boris next July

Nice to see you again.

All the best
Aldo

CCR900 · 13th February 2006, 17:07

Hi Aldo

I was with Paul he says you might be meeting him, I suggest you choose a warmer location than the UK I froze my butt off.

Rgds

Fil

12th February 2006, 11:23	#31 (permalink)
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12th February 2006, 20:38	#32 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) There is no need for the seahorse effect to occur with correct weighting, the photos on the homepage at CCRB are of students on a course and as we all know, trim gets better dive after dive. I find the Boris easier to swim than an Inspiration in fact. I recently finished my Ouroborus course and tried hard not to compare negatively one unit against another. I find the Ouroborus breathes differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently. The Ouroborus swims differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently. The Ouroborus feels heavier in the water but that just means I need no weight belt, I will have to keep a kilo or 2 on the top but having dived the Inpsiration for a while I had to use top weight on that too. All in all a lovely piece of kit. Is it better than the Inspration probably yes but both are top tier units. Fil
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12th February 2006, 21:07	#33 (permalink)
iani Nefarious Activist Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middlesex, UK Posts: 334	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) I recently finished my Ouroborus course and tried hard not to compare negatively one unit against another. I find the Ouroborus breathes differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently. The Ouroborus swims differently to the Inspiration, not better nor worse, just differently. The Ouroborus feels heavier in the water but that just means I need no weight belt, I will have to keep a kilo or 2 on the top but having dived the Inpsiration for a while I had to use top weight on that too. All in all a lovely piece of kit. Is it better than the Inspration probably yes but both are top tier units. Fil Very interesting Fil, I also crossed over from the YBOD to Boris but I found Boris to be much better in the water, the unit feels much more comfortable. Whilst the unit is heavier it feels better even on dry land as the weight is higher up on my back, definately an improvement. In the water I find that boris feels a lot lighter than my YBOD did. Ian
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13th February 2006, 04:27	#34 (permalink)
maischan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 32	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Quote: (Originally Posted by mikedive) Hey Mike, Congratulations, in my point of view you did the best choice between the units actually on the market.... The unit really impressed me but with the tag price I still just dreaming .... Can you give us some more details Mikedive on these points. What is making this CCR the best choice for you? What was so impressive in this tool compare to the rest of the CCR indroduced in the market so far.
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13th February 2006, 12:46	#35 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Iani You are probably right I just want to dive the machine a little more before passing judgement. 10 hours is definatly not enough to get a real feel. For me it's a bit like getting a new girlfriend yes the new one's got better t*ts but there is no need to say that the ex was a bad lay . I am very glad to have my new (but scuffed) Boris and will eventually let my Inspo go but only when I have the 50 hours and Tx softwware available. F
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13th February 2006, 13:44	#36 (permalink)
rogeringebo Done with bubbles Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 674	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Hi all you Boris divers I just wonder if that very long breathing hose (full of air) doesnt make the Boris unecessary top boyant? Do anyone know why they build it with the long hoses? By the look of pictures it seems to be almost half a meter to long for my liking......They seem to stick way out from the preferred streamlined position....someone told me that you dont feel it when you dive but what about in a narrow cave or in a wreck? Just curious Best regards Rodge
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13th February 2006, 13:51	#37 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Personally I think the Boris is a stunning unit in terms of design and function. Unfortunately its even worse to travel with than the YBOD so it will never make my Christmas list. My new travel frame is making transportation of the YBOD much easier so i am less inclined to get the meg at the moment but I must say in standard trim the Meg still wins for me as the best all round unit. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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13th February 2006, 14:14	#38 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) Hi all you Boris divers I just wonder if that very long breathing hose (full of air) doesnt make the Boris unecessary top boyant? Do anyone know why they build it with the long hoses? By the look of pictures it seems to be almost half a meter to long for my liking......They seem to stick way out from the preferred streamlined position....someone told me that you dont feel it when you dive but what about in a narrow cave or in a wreck? Just curious Best regards Rodge The large/smooth bore hoses assist in reducing the size of the counter lungs (counterlungs are only 4.5 litre combined (me thinks)) whilst maintaining a very low WOB. They are steel reinforced hoses that are far heavier than the rubber hosing us see on 90% of rebreathers so you don't need counter weights and despite being long and large you just don't notice the loop as there are no counterlungs in front of you nor T pieces rubbing your ears. I better shut up as I am starting to sound like I know what I am talking about.... Fil
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bubnotbub Silent diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: France Italy Posts: 386	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Hi Fil, may be we'll dive togheter in Boris next July Nice to see you again. All the best Aldo __________________ Aldo Ferrucci *Trimix and Rebreather IT* *Expedition Leader* *www.bubnotbub.com* I like bubbles only in my glass of Champagne
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CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Just ordered a Boris :D Hi Aldo I was with Paul he says you might be meeting him, I suggest you choose a warmer location than the UK I froze my butt off. Rgds Fil
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