Ouroboros VS. Cis Lunar Mark 5P

cavediveroneday · 25th October 2007, 14:21

I'd like to hear you say that to Bill Stone. He still dives the rig anytime he cave dives. Tell that to Richard Pyle. He has the dives under his belt to beg to differ. Me i am simply deciding which to buy. A "Legend" or the up to date Boris.

cavediveroneday · 25th October 2007, 14:26

Whats the Boris rated breathing Trimix?? 100m What is the CIS LUNAR rated to breathing trimix 500ft. Also watch DVD's The Coral Reef. All rebreathers used are Marks and Rich using the CIS-LUNAR. Watch Pacific Abyss. Recently filmed, three on the CIS LUNAR and one on a Mark. Watch Ice Island by Wes Skiles. All used CIs Lunar Mark 5P's I dont think a Meg. or Inspo. could handle those conditions. An Inspo. is a MCdonalds happy meal toy when compared to a Cis Lunar Mark 5p. Give me a break.

cavediveroneday · 25th October 2007, 14:29

DO I HEAR SILENCE??

cavediveroneday · 25th October 2007, 14:36

Im not trying to argue. I just need more convincing to get the Boris.

Ben Field · 25th October 2007, 14:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by cavediveroneday)

DO I HEAR SILENCE??

Maybe, but read your posts back.... you do sound abit like a troll.

What diving do you do? What do your buddies dive?

Inspirations, KISS's, Megs, rEvo's, Prizm etc have all been to 150m+ How deep do you want to go?

cavediveroneday · 25th October 2007, 14:49

Im not trying to sound like a troll. I simply need help regarding everyones rebreather of choice between the two. I am just tryin to get along with everyone.

Nad · 25th October 2007, 14:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by cavediveroneday)

Im not trying to sound like a troll. I simply need help regarding everyones rebreather of choice between the two. I am just tryin to get along with everyone.

We're just trying to tell you that Cis is good for a collection, maybe still working, but 10y old.
Nobody is telling you to buy the Ouroboros: if the servicing distance is the main factor so go for the Meg: it is a great machine, simply and modular.

You won't be a better diver with a CIS vs. any other unit.

Nad

OceanOpportunity · 25th October 2007, 15:01

I still dont buy your Hollywood arguement. Howard Hall has done more deep filiming than anyone and he uses Mk15's/15.5's...equally capable with the Cis and Boris

I do not dispute that the Cis is still a powerful tool, and was way ahead of its time. But from your profile, indicating that you have no prior CCR experience, we can't help but think you are a troll. I find it hard for someone to build an arguement between these two units based on who they see on tv with no experience otherwise.

in any case, these tools are only as good as those that can drive them. Insp has been sub 200m, as has Boris, Cis, Meg, and others. All have been dived in caves, all using mixed-gas, and all seen on tv (for what its worth).

being a multiple unit owner..in my opinion...buy one that is new, with a warrantee, hard and software upgrades readily available. For a first unit, I also dont think there is any reason to spend more than $10k, BUT between the two you are discussing, go Boris for the simple fact that they are readily available.

decoweenie · 25th October 2007, 15:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by cavediveroneday)

DO I HEAR SILENCE??

Because you are looking for people to agree with you...

Personally, I would get neither...

cavediveroneday · 25th October 2007, 15:15

You present a valid point, but hey I'm just an 18 year old who has done his homework on CCR's. What are the accident stats on the Boris? i know the Inspo. is about as safe as walking through Ethipoia with a bag of rice attached to you. The Meg. has a fairly safe record, and The CIS has 4 known incidents, possibly five, so for 10 years of diving that ia a pretty awesome track record. Please respond.

25th October 2007, 14:21	#11 (permalink)
cavediveroneday New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 32	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros I'd like to hear you say that to Bill Stone. He still dives the rig anytime he cave dives. Tell that to Richard Pyle. He has the dives under his belt to beg to differ. Me i am simply deciding which to buy. A "Legend" or the up to date Boris.
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25th October 2007, 14:26	#12 (permalink)
cavediveroneday New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 32	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros Whats the Boris rated breathing Trimix?? 100m What is the CIS LUNAR rated to breathing trimix 500ft. Also watch DVD's The Coral Reef. All rebreathers used are Marks and Rich using the CIS-LUNAR. Watch Pacific Abyss. Recently filmed, three on the CIS LUNAR and one on a Mark. Watch Ice Island by Wes Skiles. All used CIs Lunar Mark 5P's I dont think a Meg. or Inspo. could handle those conditions. An Inspo. is a MCdonalds happy meal toy when compared to a Cis Lunar Mark 5p. Give me a break.
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25th October 2007, 14:29	#13 (permalink)
cavediveroneday New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 32	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros DO I HEAR SILENCE??
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25th October 2007, 14:36	#14 (permalink)
cavediveroneday New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 32	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros Im not trying to argue. I just need more convincing to get the Boris.
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25th October 2007, 14:47	#15 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,350	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros Quote: (Originally Posted by cavediveroneday) DO I HEAR SILENCE?? Maybe, but read your posts back.... you do sound abit like a troll. What diving do you do? What do your buddies dive? Inspirations, KISS's, Megs, rEvo's, Prizm etc have all been to 150m+ How deep do you want to go? __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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25th October 2007, 14:49	#16 (permalink)
cavediveroneday New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 32	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros Im not trying to sound like a troll. I simply need help regarding everyones rebreather of choice between the two. I am just tryin to get along with everyone.
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25th October 2007, 14:58	#17 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sunny South Switzerland and Italy Posts: 905	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros Quote: (Originally Posted by cavediveroneday) Im not trying to sound like a troll. I simply need help regarding everyones rebreather of choice between the two. I am just tryin to get along with everyone. We're just trying to tell you that Cis is good for a collection, maybe still working, but 10y old. Nobody is telling you to buy the Ouroboros: if the servicing distance is the main factor so go for the Meg: it is a great machine, simply and modular. You won't be a better diver with a CIS vs. any other unit. Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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25th October 2007, 15:01	#18 (permalink)
OceanOpportunity for a world of water Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 448	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros I still dont buy your Hollywood arguement. Howard Hall has done more deep filiming than anyone and he uses Mk15's/15.5's...equally capable with the Cis and Boris I do not dispute that the Cis is still a powerful tool, and was way ahead of its time. But from your profile, indicating that you have no prior CCR experience, we can't help but think you are a troll. I find it hard for someone to build an arguement between these two units based on who they see on tv with no experience otherwise. in any case, these tools are only as good as those that can drive them. Insp has been sub 200m, as has Boris, Cis, Meg, and others. All have been dived in caves, all using mixed-gas, and all seen on tv (for what its worth). being a multiple unit owner..in my opinion...buy one that is new, with a warrantee, hard and software upgrades readily available. For a first unit, I also dont think there is any reason to spend more than $10k, BUT between the two you are discussing, go Boris for the simple fact that they are readily available. __________________ Michael Lombardi Oceans of Opportunity www.oceanopportunity.com Gear Reviewer, The Summit Journal exploration & scientific diving resources www.explorationtechnologiesgroup.com
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25th October 2007, 15:02	#19 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,511	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros Quote: (Originally Posted by cavediveroneday) DO I HEAR SILENCE?? Because you are looking for people to agree with you... Personally, I would get neither...
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25th October 2007, 15:15	#20 (permalink)
cavediveroneday New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 32	Re: CIS LUNAR Mark 5P VS. Ouroboros You present a valid point, but hey I'm just an 18 year old who has done his homework on CCR's. What are the accident stats on the Boris? i know the Inspo. is about as safe as walking through Ethipoia with a bag of rice attached to you. The Meg. has a fairly safe record, and The CIS has 4 known incidents, possibly five, so for 10 years of diving that ia a pretty awesome track record. Please respond.
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