Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe

Chris · 8th April 2007, 01:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Outlaw)

i am really glad that you have posted this information mate. i am sorry about your unit though.

spyros

Hey whats to be sorry about? 20mins with a socket set and it was fixed, it's not like I missed a dive

So no answer from the Hatchery yet... Is it worth putting a dab of threadlock on the thread to stop it ever coming loose again ?

Cheers
Chriso

**wedivebc** · 8th April 2007, 02:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Hey whats to be sorry about? 20mins with a socket set and it was fixed, it's not like I missed a dive

So no answer from the Hatchery yet... Is it worth putting a dab of threadlock on the thread to stop it ever coming loose again ?

Cheers
Chriso

I don't know if it is due to it coming loose or because of O ring compression. If it is the latter you will not want to prevent retightening with threadlock

Chris · 8th April 2007, 02:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc)

I don't know if it is due to it coming loose or because of O ring compression. If it is the latter you will not want to prevent retightening with threadlock

Dave speak English.
Why would I want to "prevent retightening"

I know of one Meg user that has put threadlock on this thread and his has not moved since.

I must say I am still keen to see someone from ISC post here...

Cheers
Chriso

**wedivebc** · 8th April 2007, 03:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Dave speak English.

I thought I was.
If you lock the thread it won't help if the problem was caused by o-ring compression since the nut loosening did not cause the increased gap. If you lock the thread you will find it hard to retighten the nut after the o-ring has taken a more compressed shape.

Outlaw · 8th April 2007, 07:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

Dave speak English.
Why would I want to "prevent retightening"

I know of one Meg user that has put threadlock on this thread and his has not moved since.

I must say I am still keen to see someone from ISC post here...

Cheers
Chriso

i am sure someone will asnwer or give you some information...

Give them a few days, i suppose its Easter Holidays now, so people might be away on holidays.

Cheers.

Spyros

Chris · 8th April 2007, 11:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc)

I thought I was.
If you lock the thread it won't help if the problem was caused by o-ring compression since the nut loosening did not cause the increased gap. If you lock the thread you will find it hard to retighten the nut after the o-ring has taken a more compressed shape.

But its not caused by Oring compression, it is caused by the nut coming loose. When I took mine apart the nut was freely spinning.

Cheers
Chrisopo

**Padipro** · 8th April 2007, 14:42

Thanks guys for the info. I've been using the pipe as a handle as well, it's just in the right spot ya know, kind of like the cross bar on a manifold. After reading this I won't be using it again and I'm headed to the dive locker to check the nut and make sure it hasn't loosened up.

Moray Brown · 8th April 2007, 16:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer)

I had asked Jim (Production Mgr) about 2 months or so ago to see if ISC could incorporate a lifting tab on the Delrin piece that serves as a support bracket for the O2 solenoid pipework. If that Delrin piece was a upside down "L", then it would serve as a nice lift tab.

My buddy reckons I have a stream of bubbles coming out of the port marked A on this head??? is that possible, or may he being seeing bubbles coming from the pipework? If it is port A how does one fix it??

**Padipro** · 8th April 2007, 18:16

What is port "A"? I just took a look at my Meg and I don't even have that port.

Paul Evans · 8th April 2007, 18:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Padipro)

What is port "A"? I just took a look at my Meg and I don't even have that port.

I stand to be corrected

but

Eairly versions didnt have it.

I have never seen a confirmed reason for it, I suspect its for a Future ISC development.

8th April 2007, 01:16	#11 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 604	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by Outlaw) i am really glad that you have posted this information mate. i am sorry about your unit though. spyros Hey whats to be sorry about? 20mins with a socket set and it was fixed, it's not like I missed a dive So no answer from the Hatchery yet... Is it worth putting a dab of threadlock on the thread to stop it ever coming loose again ? Cheers Chriso __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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8th April 2007, 02:03	#12 (permalink)
wedivebc FIGJAM Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,385	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) Hey whats to be sorry about? 20mins with a socket set and it was fixed, it's not like I missed a dive So no answer from the Hatchery yet... Is it worth putting a dab of threadlock on the thread to stop it ever coming loose again ? Cheers Chriso I don't know if it is due to it coming loose or because of O ring compression. If it is the latter you will not want to prevent retightening with threadlock __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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8th April 2007, 02:13	#13 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 604	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc) I don't know if it is due to it coming loose or because of O ring compression. If it is the latter you will not want to prevent retightening with threadlock Dave speak English. Why would I want to "prevent retightening" I know of one Meg user that has put threadlock on this thread and his has not moved since. I must say I am still keen to see someone from ISC post here... Cheers Chriso __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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8th April 2007, 03:11	#14 (permalink)
wedivebc FIGJAM Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,385	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) Dave speak English. I thought I was. If you lock the thread it won't help if the problem was caused by o-ring compression since the nut loosening did not cause the increased gap. If you lock the thread you will find it hard to retighten the nut after the o-ring has taken a more compressed shape. __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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8th April 2007, 07:41	#15 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 627	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) Dave speak English. Why would I want to "prevent retightening" I know of one Meg user that has put threadlock on this thread and his has not moved since. I must say I am still keen to see someone from ISC post here... Cheers Chriso i am sure someone will asnwer or give you some information... Give them a few days, i suppose its Easter Holidays now, so people might be away on holidays. Cheers. Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw" Last edited by Outlaw : 8th April 2007 at 07:52.
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8th April 2007, 11:20	#16 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 604	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc) I thought I was. If you lock the thread it won't help if the problem was caused by o-ring compression since the nut loosening did not cause the increased gap. If you lock the thread you will find it hard to retighten the nut after the o-ring has taken a more compressed shape. But its not caused by Oring compression, it is caused by the nut coming loose. When I took mine apart the nut was freely spinning. Cheers Chrisopo __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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8th April 2007, 14:42	#17 (permalink)
Padipro Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 220	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Thanks guys for the info. I've been using the pipe as a handle as well, it's just in the right spot ya know, kind of like the cross bar on a manifold. After reading this I won't be using it again and I'm headed to the dive locker to check the nut and make sure it hasn't loosened up. __________________ Scott IANTD Megalodon IANTD Trimix TDI Adv Nitrox and Deco PADI MSDT It could be that the sole purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others. Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you could survive the odds beating you.
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8th April 2007, 16:21	#18 (permalink)
Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 229	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer) I had asked Jim (Production Mgr) about 2 months or so ago to see if ISC could incorporate a lifting tab on the Delrin piece that serves as a support bracket for the O2 solenoid pipework. If that Delrin piece was a upside down "L", then it would serve as a nice lift tab. My buddy reckons I have a stream of bubbles coming out of the port marked A on this head??? is that possible, or may he being seeing bubbles coming from the pipework? If it is port A how does one fix it??
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8th April 2007, 18:16	#19 (permalink)
Padipro Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 220	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe What is port "A"? I just took a look at my Meg and I don't even have that port. __________________ Scott IANTD Megalodon IANTD Trimix TDI Adv Nitrox and Deco PADI MSDT It could be that the sole purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others. Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you could survive the odds beating you.
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8th April 2007, 18:21	#20 (permalink)
Paul Evans Freedom is the Key. Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 133	Re: Leak between the head and Solenoid pipe Quote: (Originally Posted by Padipro) What is port "A"? I just took a look at my Meg and I don't even have that port. I stand to be corrected but Eairly versions didnt have it. I have never seen a confirmed reason for it, I suspect its for a Future ISC development. __________________ "Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you." Jean-Paul Sartre "Any time anyone says, 'there is only one right way to do this' your bullshit meter should be pegged. Its a presumptive statement, made by a person who fears being proved wrong." Bill Gavin.
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