Conversion to FX

tflaris · 21st May 2008, 01:06

Does anyone know the cost of converting a 1 gen to a FX style Optima?

I understand that the frame is differnet also. Is this true?

Any other diiferences?

Dsix36 · 21st May 2008, 01:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by tflaris)

Does anyone know the cost of converting a 1 gen to a FX style Optima?

I understand that the frame is differnet also. Is this true?

Any other diiferences?

I asked Tienuts (diveRiteExpress) this today. He told me about $200. Please do not take this as gospel. This is without the Delrin handset upgrade.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 21st May 2008, 03:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by tflaris)

I understand that the frame is differnet also. Is this true?

Any other diiferences?

Dive Rite will ask you to ship your frame back for the change. (It is possible that they won't since there have been changes to the frame over time.) The new frame is similar but cut down a little in some places in order for the FX case to fit properly.

Instead of using the velcro straps to hold the tanks, they replace it with the Remora system.

The new case is great, and it makes using the Optima even easier.

Armson · 21st May 2008, 15:06

I am looking to do the same thing I was under the impression that the remora was an aftermarket add on. So I figured I would just get the Al back plate and the new cover and that would be all I needed. Of course my buddies all thought I was trying to be cheap but I looked at it as buying a loaf of bread just for two slices.

Does anybody not like the remora system? I saw a diver with an FX and it seemed to make removing the tanks more of a P.I.T.A.

-B

Tienuts · 21st May 2008, 16:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dsix36)

I asked Tienuts (diveRiteExpress) this today. He told me about $200. Please do not take this as gospel. This is without the Delrin handset upgrade.

That is NOT what I said - I said I wasn't sure what the cost was. I said I think it is between $300 and $400 for just the case upgrade, and not the handsets.

You would have to call Dive Rite directly for sure.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson)

I am looking to do the same thing I was under the impression that the remora was an aftermarket add on. So I figured I would just get the Al back plate and the new cover and that would be all I needed. Of course my buddies all thought I was trying to be cheap but I looked at it as buying a loaf of bread just for two slices.

This would not be sufficient - a standard backplate would not work, as there would be no means to support the cannister. Also you would need the hardware, clips, bolts, the foot and angle bracket. If you are an existing Optima owner, Dive Rite might sell you these parts a-la-carte, but I think you will find it is much easier and cheaper to just have Dive Rite do the conversion.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson)

Does anybody not like the remora system? I saw a diver with an FX and it seemed to make removing the tanks more of a P.I.T.A.

Although not ideal, the remora is much better than the old method, IMHO.

Armson · 21st May 2008, 17:37

Thanks for the help Tienuts! Guess I am getting the upgrade!

So let me see if I can put this together correctly

~$400 for the upgrade
~$2000 for the new handsets
~$600 for the Al back plate

Give or take a few hundred bucks...

Anybody tried the Miflex XTREME hoses on their Optima yet?

Man she is going to be pissed!

-Byron

netmage · 21st May 2008, 17:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson)

Thanks for the help Tienuts! Guess I am getting the upgrade!

So let me see if I can put this together correctly

~$400 for the upgrade
~$600 for the Al back plate

Give or take a few hundred bucks...

-Byron

Why would you need both...? I thought the key to the FX was the mobile foot... which your going to chuck anyway if you go w/ the DSIX plate....

jiseson · 21st May 2008, 18:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

Why would you need both...? I thought the key to the FX was the mobile foot... which your going to chuck anyway if you go w/ the DSIX plate....

dsix plate only works on new FX. i am not a fan at all of the Remoras- just used the 5 1/2 inch bands dive rites sells and it is solid at a rock-no more radiator clamps! makes changing tanks a breeze too

Tienuts · 21st May 2008, 21:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson)

~$400 for the upgrade
~$2000 for the new handsets
~$600 for the Al back plate

Anybody tried the Miflex XTREME hoses on their Optima yet?

I think the Delrin handsets are cheaper than that.

I think Jeff (swadiver) put the MIFLEX on his unit, but in my option, they are not worth it. You're solving a problem that doesn't exist. The backplate is another story though...

Unfortunatly, the Dsix plate will only work with the FX case, not the classic case.

diverreb · 21st May 2008, 21:48

Upgrade to the Delrin Handsets is $1595.00 without Deco in the secondary.

Deco in the Secondary is another $495.00

Richie

21st May 2008, 01:06	#1 (permalink)
tflaris God save the Queen Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida Posts: 273	Conversion to FX Does anyone know the cost of converting a 1 gen to a FX style Optima? I understand that the frame is differnet also. Is this true? Any other diiferences? __________________ "Except for this one, I have come to the conclusion that all generalizations are false" -Jim Hayes
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21st May 2008, 01:43	#2 (permalink)
Dsix36 Going Down? Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Deerfield Beach, Florida Posts: 1,137	Re: Conversion to FX Quote: (Originally Posted by tflaris) Does anyone know the cost of converting a 1 gen to a FX style Optima? I understand that the frame is differnet also. Is this true? Any other diiferences? I asked Tienuts (diveRiteExpress) this today. He told me about $200. Please do not take this as gospel. This is without the Delrin handset upgrade. __________________ THE MORE THAT I LEARN, THE MORE THAT I STILL NEED TO LEARN!!!!!!
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21st May 2008, 03:39	#3 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,210	Re: Conversion to FX Quote: (Originally Posted by tflaris) I understand that the frame is differnet also. Is this true? Any other diiferences? Dive Rite will ask you to ship your frame back for the change. (It is possible that they won't since there have been changes to the frame over time.) The new frame is similar but cut down a little in some places in order for the FX case to fit properly. Instead of using the velcro straps to hold the tanks, they replace it with the Remora system. The new case is great, and it makes using the Optima even easier. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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21st May 2008, 15:06	#4 (permalink)
Armson New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 16	Re: Conversion to FX I am looking to do the same thing I was under the impression that the remora was an aftermarket add on. So I figured I would just get the Al back plate and the new cover and that would be all I needed. Of course my buddies all thought I was trying to be cheap but I looked at it as buying a loaf of bread just for two slices. Does anybody not like the remora system? I saw a diver with an FX and it seemed to make removing the tanks more of a P.I.T.A. -B
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21st May 2008, 16:27	#5 (permalink)
Tienuts Chief Prankster Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 283	Re: Conversion to FX Quote: (Originally Posted by Dsix36) I asked Tienuts (diveRiteExpress) this today. He told me about $200. Please do not take this as gospel. This is without the Delrin handset upgrade. That is NOT what I said - I said I wasn't sure what the cost was. I said I think it is between $300 and $400 for just the case upgrade, and not the handsets. You would have to call Dive Rite directly for sure. Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson) I am looking to do the same thing I was under the impression that the remora was an aftermarket add on. So I figured I would just get the Al back plate and the new cover and that would be all I needed. Of course my buddies all thought I was trying to be cheap but I looked at it as buying a loaf of bread just for two slices. This would not be sufficient - a standard backplate would not work, as there would be no means to support the cannister. Also you would need the hardware, clips, bolts, the foot and angle bracket. If you are an existing Optima owner, Dive Rite might sell you these parts a-la-carte, but I think you will find it is much easier and cheaper to just have Dive Rite do the conversion. Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson) Does anybody not like the remora system? I saw a diver with an FX and it seemed to make removing the tanks more of a P.I.T.A. Although not ideal, the remora is much better than the old method, IMHO. Last edited by Tienuts : 21st May 2008 at 16:37.
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21st May 2008, 17:37	#6 (permalink)
Armson New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manassas, VA Posts: 16	Re: Conversion to FX Thanks for the help Tienuts! Guess I am getting the upgrade! So let me see if I can put this together correctly ~$400 for the upgrade ~$2000 for the new handsets ~$600 for the Al back plate Give or take a few hundred bucks... Anybody tried the Miflex XTREME hoses on their Optima yet? Man she is going to be pissed! -Byron
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21st May 2008, 17:44	#7 (permalink)
netmage Tim Owens Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 677	Re: Conversion to FX Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson) Thanks for the help Tienuts! Guess I am getting the upgrade! So let me see if I can put this together correctly ~$400 for the upgrade ~$600 for the Al back plate Give or take a few hundred bucks... -Byron Why would you need both...? I thought the key to the FX was the mobile foot... which your going to chuck anyway if you go w/ the DSIX plate.... __________________ "You want a bailout bottle? Go get the pink one from Fill Express, BTCH!" - John Cogan "If I sent my rebreather back, I might live longer, but would I live* more?" - Abbo
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21st May 2008, 18:34	#8 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 610	Re: Conversion to FX Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) Why would you need both...? I thought the key to the FX was the mobile foot... which your going to chuck anyway if you go w/ the DSIX plate.... dsix plate only works on new FX. i am not a fan at all of the Remoras- just used the 5 1/2 inch bands dive rites sells and it is solid at a rock-no more radiator clamps! makes changing tanks a breeze too __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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21st May 2008, 21:21	#9 (permalink)
Tienuts Chief Prankster Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 283	Re: Conversion to FX Quote: (Originally Posted by Armson) ~$400 for the upgrade ~$2000 for the new handsets ~$600 for the Al back plate Anybody tried the Miflex XTREME hoses on their Optima yet? I think the Delrin handsets are cheaper than that. I think Jeff (swadiver) put the MIFLEX on his unit, but in my option, they are not worth it. You're solving a problem that doesn't exist. The backplate is another story though... Unfortunatly, the Dsix plate will only work with the FX case, not the classic case.
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21st May 2008, 21:48	#10 (permalink)
diverreb DE/MD/NJ Wreck Diver Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 661	Re: Conversion to FX Upgrade to the Delrin Handsets is $1595.00 without Deco in the secondary. Deco in the Secondary is another $495.00 Richie
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