Optima vs Tempstick

gafftape42 · 26th May 2007, 17:59

Sorry for asking a question, but I was more concerned that the use of the O2 consumption calculation would be too liberal when diving in cold water. I was not looking to push scrubber duration. I do know that different durations are published for the EAC for warm vs. cold water.

jptaylor9 · 26th May 2007, 18:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

02 consumed = C02 produced

Thought it was 1 litre O2 produces 0.9L CO2...

PS. I think the Tempstik is great

decoweenie · 26th May 2007, 18:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by jptaylor9)

PS. I think the Tempstik is great

Did you notice that majority of the responders above who don't like Temp-Stick have never used it ?

PCDiver · 26th May 2007, 21:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Did you notice that majority of the responders above who don't like Temp-Stick have never used it ?

I use it and I love it. This is not just a gimmick.

Mixaddict · 27th May 2007, 04:03

I have owned both the classic and the vision electronics, and I must say that the temp stick is a great upgrade. Although it is just one more tool, it is a very good reminder about the "approximate" life of the scrubber. That said, it is just one of several tools that should be used to monitor scrubber life. I certainly wouldn't want to go back to the classic, after having dived the vision with temp stick for the last couple of years.

diverrob · 27th May 2007, 07:55

I think that the temp stick is the factor that sets the VISION above the rest. All of the other Rebreather seem to offer the same thing in their own way (all good) but no one else give you the option of the temp stick. I know that it is just a tool in the box but the more tools the better! If the VISION was an option on other RB like the Hammerhead/Shearwater is then I could see it getting the majority of use. Just my opinion though.

Rob

**Steve** · 27th May 2007, 08:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Did you notice that majority of the responders above who don't like Temp-Stick have never used it ?

Have you ever given a dog peanut butter to eat? They love the taste but it just makes them look silly. Every one has a giggle and the dog seems to like it.

Now.... have you ever tried placing peanut butter on the roof of your dog's mouth using your tongue? I don't have to know that it isn't a good idea

Sure some people may like that sort of thing but it's not my scene. I like the old fashioned way

decoweenie · 27th May 2007, 08:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

Sure some people may like that sort of thing but it's not my scene. I like the old fashioned way

...and that's perfectly acceptable answer by any standard - except for your silly example...

Kinda like the standard "DIR answer" when being questioned about their experience: "Oh, I don't need to be hit by a bowling ball to know it hurts"...

I don't dispute the fact that someone will not like the TS feature at all.

All I was pointing out is some people will make a decision without personal experience, and state their personal opinion like it is a fact.

**Steve** · 27th May 2007, 09:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

"Oh, I don't need to be hit by a bowling ball to know it hurts"...

I wish I had thought of that analogy. Mine is silly

***caveseeker7*** · 27th May 2007, 11:10

The way I see it, the TempStick is a tool, it works for what it was designed to do, and I would rather have one than not when given the choice. Alas, it loks to me like it is only feasible (if not possible) in an axial scrubber design which I happen not to use.

In a way it's like a HUD, you don't need it to dive a Rebreather, but as long as it works and you use it correctly it's an item both convenient and safe.

The same of course is true for the cartridge style scrubber. Don't know if a temp sensor would work in there as I don't know how the absorbant is used up in the cartridge, a combination of both would be even better than either by itself. Tough call.

26th May 2007, 17:59	#21 (permalink)
gafftape42 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Sorry for asking a question, but I was more concerned that the use of the O2 consumption calculation would be too liberal when diving in cold water. I was not looking to push scrubber duration. I do know that different durations are published for the EAC for warm vs. cold water.
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26th May 2007, 18:53	#22 (permalink)
jptaylor9 Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 318	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) 02 consumed = C02 produced Thought it was 1 litre O2 produces 0.9L CO2... PS. I think the Tempstik is great
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26th May 2007, 18:57	#23 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Quote: (Originally Posted by jptaylor9) PS. I think the Tempstik is great Did you notice that majority of the responders above who don't like Temp-Stick have never used it ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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26th May 2007, 21:11	#24 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 969	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Did you notice that majority of the responders above who don't like Temp-Stick have never used it ? I use it and I love it. This is not just a gimmick.
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27th May 2007, 04:03	#25 (permalink)
Mixaddict Always Learning! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 476	Re: Optima vs Tempstick I have owned both the classic and the vision electronics, and I must say that the temp stick is a great upgrade. Although it is just one more tool, it is a very good reminder about the "approximate" life of the scrubber. That said, it is just one of several tools that should be used to monitor scrubber life. I certainly wouldn't want to go back to the classic, after having dived the vision with temp stick for the last couple of years. __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution,Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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27th May 2007, 07:55	#26 (permalink)
diverrob The Evolution of Diving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 336	Re: Optima vs Tempstick I think that the temp stick is the factor that sets the VISION above the rest. All of the other Rebreather seem to offer the same thing in their own way (all good) but no one else give you the option of the temp stick. I know that it is just a tool in the box but the more tools the better! If the VISION was an option on other RB like the Hammerhead/Shearwater is then I could see it getting the majority of use. Just my opinion though. Rob
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27th May 2007, 08:35	#27 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,117	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Did you notice that majority of the responders above who don't like Temp-Stick have never used it ? Have you ever given a dog peanut butter to eat? They love the taste but it just makes them look silly. Every one has a giggle and the dog seems to like it. Now.... have you ever tried placing peanut butter on the roof of your dog's mouth using your tongue? I don't have to know that it isn't a good idea Sure some people may like that sort of thing but it's not my scene. I like the old fashioned way __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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27th May 2007, 08:59	#28 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Sure some people may like that sort of thing but it's not my scene. I like the old fashioned way ...and that's perfectly acceptable answer by any standard - except for your silly example... Kinda like the standard "DIR answer" when being questioned about their experience: "Oh, I don't need to be hit by a bowling ball to know it hurts"... I don't dispute the fact that someone will not like the TS feature at all. All I was pointing out is some people will make a decision without personal experience, and state their personal opinion like it is a fact. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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27th May 2007, 09:57	#29 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,117	Re: Optima vs Tempstick Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) "Oh, I don't need to be hit by a bowling ball to know it hurts"... I wish I had thought of that analogy. Mine is silly __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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27th May 2007, 11:10	#30 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Re: Optima vs Tempstick The way I see it, the TempStick is a tool, it works for what it was designed to do, and I would rather have one than not when given the choice. Alas, it loks to me like it is only feasible (if not possible) in an axial scrubber design which I happen not to use. In a way it's like a HUD, you don't need it to dive a Rebreather, but as long as it works and you use it correctly it's an item both convenient and safe. The same of course is true for the cartridge style scrubber. Don't know if a temp sensor would work in there as I don't know how the absorbant is used up in the cartridge, a combination of both would be even better than either by itself. Tough call. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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