My back is happy with me

tstonedvr · 10th October 2006, 17:08

Ok this is a first post so how are ya'll doing.....
Having just returned from a weekend of diving the Gulf of Mexico out of Pensacola (great trip)...from time to time my back goes out due to carrying all that OC gear,so I'm thinking maybe a Rebreather would be less in the long run...I would be happy I believe with a SCR as a CCR is just more than my small brain cares to fool with....so say how much does say a Dolphin weigh ready to dive, and how long on one scrubber fill will I get as a average. I only have limited knowledge of RB's.....thanks...
Yarg

mverick · 10th October 2006, 17:53

This is the reason I bought a Meg. Easy to travel and can do technical without duals on my back. After back surgery I don't want duals anymore.

viscya · 11th October 2006, 00:26

Being rather tall 6'6" ~ 2m, I have been subject to back problems on and off. I found the best solution to my issue was the gym. After going to the gym for a few months, my doubles were not an issue. I now have the core strength to handle the stress. My RVM improved a great deal also (not to mention quality time with the wife.).

Now that I've been diving CCR I only use my doubles as banks or drive gas. I'm sure the long term load of doubles does damage to anyone, but SCR/CCR is not the solution to the problem, just a solution to the symptom.

FWIW

PS. Classic Kiss 52 lbs. Much lighter than my double 120s.

mverick · 11th October 2006, 00:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by viscya)

Being rather tall 6'6" ~ 2m, I have been subject to back problems on and off. I found the best solution to my issue was the gym. After going to the gym for a few months, my doubles were not an issue. I now have the core strength to handle the stress. My RVM improved a great deal also (not to mention quality time with the wife.).

Now that I've been diving CCR I only use my doubles as banks or drive gas. I'm sure the long term load of doubles does damage to anyone, but SCR/CCR is not the solution to the problem, just a solution to the symptom.

FWIW

PS. Classic Kiss 52 lbs. Much lighter than my double 120s.

Yep, I've done the gym too.

But, I also, ain't stressing the back as much... LOL

There can be other reasons for the back problems. Other then the duals. I've been pretty stupid in picking things up my whole life. No gym would have saved me... LOL.... It would have had me lifting more. When grease drums tip over and you right them yourself. Sooner or later you're going to hurt your back. Being young and stupid and bullet proof....

Always use equipment if the object is heavy. It's what fork lifts were made for. It ain't worth hurting yourself for money. When your old you'll know why....

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 11th October 2006, 04:17

When I first put on my CCR, it was great to lessen the load compared to my double 120s. Now, I swear that someone keeps sneaking some lead into the case, a little more each time just before I go to lift it.

I don't know how I ever hauled those doubles around for so long.

tstonedvr · 11th October 2006, 11:15

The gym is the only thing that has keep me operational for the last 20 years...a Rebreather would also make the 6hr car ride with a 2 hr boat ride and getting a bit more BT much more attractive also....I'm sure the RB taking the weight out of my wallet will help to

......

**Gill Envy** · 11th October 2006, 16:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by tstonedvr)

Ok this is a first post so how are ya'll doing.....
Having just returned from a weekend of diving the Gulf of Mexico out of Pensacola (great trip)...from time to time my back goes out due to carrying all that OC gear,so I'm thinking maybe a Rebreather would be less in the long run...I would be happy I believe with a SCR as a CCR is just more than my small brain cares to fool with....so say how much does say a Dolphin weigh ready to dive, and how long on one scrubber fill will I get as a average. I only have limited knowledge of RB's.....thanks...
Yarg

no doubt, our backs are happier hauling 13 cf tanks around instead of 80's. for the kind of diving i do in particular, shore and kayak expedition, the amount of back breaking gear hauling has dropped tremendously. Since we used to go to remote places where air fills were hard to find, we used to take 6-12 AL 80's with us. Now we take 4, 13cf steels and 1 AL 80 of O2 and 1AL 80 of dilluent... It's not just the springs in my back that are happier. ;~)

sailordiver@msn.com · 11th October 2006, 20:47

Try looking at the sport KISS CCR. Easy to dive and the aluminum version weighs less than 40 lb. It's lighter than my LP steel 108. Good luck...

10th October 2006, 17:08	#1 (permalink)
tstonedvr New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 7	My back is happy with me Ok this is a first post so how are ya'll doing..... Having just returned from a weekend of diving the Gulf of Mexico out of Pensacola (great trip)...from time to time my back goes out due to carrying all that OC gear,so I'm thinking maybe a Rebreather would be less in the long run...I would be happy I believe with a SCR as a CCR is just more than my small brain cares to fool with....so say how much does say a Dolphin weigh ready to dive, and how long on one scrubber fill will I get as a average. I only have limited knowledge of RB's.....thanks... Yarg
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10th October 2006, 17:53	#2 (permalink)
mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 544	Re: My back is happy with me This is the reason I bought a Meg. Easy to travel and can do technical without duals on my back. After back surgery I don't want duals anymore.
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11th October 2006, 00:26	#3 (permalink)
viscya Wrecking Crew Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Marlton New Jersey Posts: 138	Re: My back is happy with me Being rather tall 6'6" ~ 2m, I have been subject to back problems on and off. I found the best solution to my issue was the gym. After going to the gym for a few months, my doubles were not an issue. I now have the core strength to handle the stress. My RVM improved a great deal also (not to mention quality time with the wife.). Now that I've been diving CCR I only use my doubles as banks or drive gas. I'm sure the long term load of doubles does damage to anyone, but SCR/CCR is not the solution to the problem, just a solution to the symptom. FWIW PS. Classic Kiss 52 lbs. Much lighter than my double 120s. __________________ "There is nothing majestic or dignified about being left to silently rot and collapse under heaps of old fishing net forgotten and unappreciated in dark and unvisited waters." DrMike
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11th October 2006, 00:38	#4 (permalink)
mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 544	Re: My back is happy with me Quote: (Originally Posted by viscya) Being rather tall 6'6" ~ 2m, I have been subject to back problems on and off. I found the best solution to my issue was the gym. After going to the gym for a few months, my doubles were not an issue. I now have the core strength to handle the stress. My RVM improved a great deal also (not to mention quality time with the wife.). Now that I've been diving CCR I only use my doubles as banks or drive gas. I'm sure the long term load of doubles does damage to anyone, but SCR/CCR is not the solution to the problem, just a solution to the symptom. FWIW PS. Classic Kiss 52 lbs. Much lighter than my double 120s. Yep, I've done the gym too. But, I also, ain't stressing the back as much... LOL There can be other reasons for the back problems. Other then the duals. I've been pretty stupid in picking things up my whole life. No gym would have saved me... LOL.... It would have had me lifting more. When grease drums tip over and you right them yourself. Sooner or later you're going to hurt your back. Being young and stupid and bullet proof.... Always use equipment if the object is heavy. It's what fork lifts were made for. It ain't worth hurting yourself for money. When your old you'll know why....
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11th October 2006, 04:17	#5 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,132	Re: My back is happy with me When I first put on my CCR, it was great to lessen the load compared to my double 120s. Now, I swear that someone keeps sneaking some lead into the case, a little more each time just before I go to lift it. I don't know how I ever hauled those doubles around for so long. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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11th October 2006, 11:15	#6 (permalink)
tstonedvr New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 7	Re: My back is happy with me The gym is the only thing that has keep me operational for the last 20 years...a Rebreather would also make the 6hr car ride with a 2 hr boat ride and getting a bit more BT much more attractive also....I'm sure the RB taking the weight out of my wallet will help to ......
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11th October 2006, 16:14	#7 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,314	Re: My back is happy with me Quote: (Originally Posted by tstonedvr) Ok this is a first post so how are ya'll doing..... Having just returned from a weekend of diving the Gulf of Mexico out of Pensacola (great trip)...from time to time my back goes out due to carrying all that OC gear,so I'm thinking maybe a Rebreather would be less in the long run...I would be happy I believe with a SCR as a CCR is just more than my small brain cares to fool with....so say how much does say a Dolphin weigh ready to dive, and how long on one scrubber fill will I get as a average. I only have limited knowledge of RB's.....thanks... Yarg no doubt, our backs are happier hauling 13 cf tanks around instead of 80's. for the kind of diving i do in particular, shore and kayak expedition, the amount of back breaking gear hauling has dropped tremendously. Since we used to go to remote places where air fills were hard to find, we used to take 6-12 AL 80's with us. Now we take 4, 13cf steels and 1 AL 80 of O2 and 1AL 80 of dilluent... It's not just the springs in my back that are happier. ;~) __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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11th October 2006, 20:47	#8 (permalink)
sailordiver@msn.com New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Venice, CA USA Posts: 51	Re: My back is happy with me Try looking at the sport KISS CCR. Easy to dive and the aluminum version weighs less than 40 lb. It's lighter than my LP steel 108. Good luck...
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