What do you use to disinfect your loop ?

phil murphy · 20th October 2006, 19:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by sailordiver@msn.com)

Betadine

Hi There.
I'm just about out of Buddy clean and i looked at Betadine.I was shown an alcohol based and a water based version.I wasn't sure which was best or what ratio to dilute.Any suddgestions?
Safe diving
Phil

Maui Nobubbles · 21st October 2006, 00:29

Just started using Virkon S disinfectant based on the Canadian Military Dive unit study - it kills everything and was not harmful to your gear if you rinse after decon - usual drill 10 minutes of wet contract, then rinse.

They only downside is Virkon S is also used on bird farms to kill bird flu so it's getting harder to find. I heard the mfg firm is working 24 x 7 trying to make enough to fill orders.

I just bought 10 lbs from a vet supply company - 10lbs makes 100+ gallons according to the info sheet.

I'll see if I can find the link to the Canadian study and post it.

curt · 21st October 2006, 01:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Maui Nobubbles)

Just started using Virkon S disinfectant based on the Canadian Military Dive unit study - it kills everything and was not harmful to your gear if you rinse after decon - usual drill 10 minutes of wet contract, then rinse.

The study report is posted at http://www.diveriteexpress.com/libra...r_Cleaning.pdf, among other places.

cheers...

Maui Nobubbles · 21st October 2006, 04:56

Yep, I just switched to Virkon S based on the Canadian military rebreather unit test. Only the "S" version was tested as Virkon for people was not around yet.

Virkon S won hands down over all the others tested - 10 minutes of wet contact killed everything - at 1 percent did not cause any harm to equipment and is safe for human contract - did not cause any problems with the lungs if you forgot to rinse. They recommended using 2 percent if you have blood or body fluid contact (let's hope not).

For you US guys I purchased mine (10lbs) at QC supply (farm supply) for $60.98 plus shipping to Maui (all shipping cost to Hawaii is bad). The link below takes your right to the web site.

Carhartt & Dickies Clothing, Fans & Ventilation, Livestock & Swine Supplies - QC Supply Catalog

10 lbs makes more than 100 gallons I think they said on the insert sheet.

rewrites · 21st October 2006, 20:45

HorseActive is a good source in the UK - competitive prices also.

PH

Jordan · 23rd October 2006, 17:39

DR will be getting disinfectant tablets that will be packed in tubes of 10 tablets. They will be described as "Relyon" rather than Virkon....the maker renamed the 'human use' version of Virkon as Relyon.... the Virkon name will be exculsively for vetrinary and livestock use. No pricing in place yet -- just a heads up so people aren't confused by the new name

***EBT*** · 23rd October 2006, 17:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by lbihler)

What do you use to clean your loop, any particular products ?

Urine. Oh sorry "my loop", I thought you meant my buddies

Dutchy · 23rd October 2006, 20:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by rewrites)

Virkon, Virkon S, Pet Virkon - all the same stuff. Just have to have different labels dependng upon end use.

Incidentally, it is great stuff, but be careful with your clothes as it can stain them - as my new trousers found out!! Smells great too!

Someone once told me there's more quality control to an otherwise identical produc.
I myself use EW80 des. It's primary use is for rebreathers

and other protective clothing....

ccopith · 28th November 2006, 08:51

Hi there,

just wondering about the virkon tablets, once it's dissolved whats the shelf life of the solution ?? is it one shot only or can it be kept for a while in a spray can ??

***jradomski*** · 28th November 2006, 11:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by ccopith)

Hi there,

just wondering about the virkon tablets, once it's dissolved whats the shelf life of the solution ?? is it one shot only or can it be kept for a while in a spray can ??

once mixed about 1 week if kept out of sunlight...

20th October 2006, 19:13	#11 (permalink)
phil murphy New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 6	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Quote: (Originally Posted by sailordiver@msn.com) Betadine Hi There. I'm just about out of Buddy clean and i looked at Betadine.I was shown an alcohol based and a water based version.I wasn't sure which was best or what ratio to dilute.Any suddgestions? Safe diving Phil
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21st October 2006, 00:29	#12 (permalink)
Maui Nobubbles New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kihei, Maui Hawaii Posts: 69	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Just started using Virkon S disinfectant based on the Canadian Military Dive unit study - it kills everything and was not harmful to your gear if you rinse after decon - usual drill 10 minutes of wet contract, then rinse. They only downside is Virkon S is also used on bird farms to kill bird flu so it's getting harder to find. I heard the mfg firm is working 24 x 7 trying to make enough to fill orders. I just bought 10 lbs from a vet supply company - 10lbs makes 100+ gallons according to the info sheet. I'll see if I can find the link to the Canadian study and post it. __________________ Maui Nobubbles
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21st October 2006, 01:27	#13 (permalink)
curt New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rockville, MD USA Posts: 87	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Maui Nobubbles) Just started using Virkon S disinfectant based on the Canadian Military Dive unit study - it kills everything and was not harmful to your gear if you rinse after decon - usual drill 10 minutes of wet contract, then rinse. The study report is posted at http://www.diveriteexpress.com/libra...r_Cleaning.pdf, among other places. cheers... __________________ Curt Harpold US Representative Rebreathers Australia http://rebreathers.com.au/
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21st October 2006, 04:56	#14 (permalink)
Maui Nobubbles New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kihei, Maui Hawaii Posts: 69	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Yep, I just switched to Virkon S based on the Canadian military rebreather unit test. Only the "S" version was tested as Virkon for people was not around yet. Virkon S won hands down over all the others tested - 10 minutes of wet contact killed everything - at 1 percent did not cause any harm to equipment and is safe for human contract - did not cause any problems with the lungs if you forgot to rinse. They recommended using 2 percent if you have blood or body fluid contact (let's hope not). For you US guys I purchased mine (10lbs) at QC supply (farm supply) for $60.98 plus shipping to Maui (all shipping cost to Hawaii is bad). The link below takes your right to the web site. Carhartt & Dickies Clothing, Fans & Ventilation, Livestock & Swine Supplies - QC Supply Catalog 10 lbs makes more than 100 gallons I think they said on the insert sheet. __________________ Maui Nobubbles
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21st October 2006, 20:45	#15 (permalink)
rewrites New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 65	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? HorseActive is a good source in the UK - competitive prices also. PH __________________ Always running with scissors ~8~
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23rd October 2006, 17:39	#16 (permalink)
Jordan ebt called me stroppy! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Florida Posts: 225	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? DR will be getting disinfectant tablets that will be packed in tubes of 10 tablets. They will be described as "Relyon" rather than Virkon....the maker renamed the 'human use' version of Virkon as Relyon.... the Virkon name will be exculsively for vetrinary and livestock use. No pricing in place yet -- just a heads up so people aren't confused by the new name __________________ Is it clear? No. Well, let's go anyways. "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little order, will lose both, and deserve neither." Thomas Jefferson
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23rd October 2006, 17:48	#17 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,932	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Quote: (Originally Posted by lbihler) What do you use to clean your loop, any particular products ? Urine. Oh sorry "my loop", I thought you meant my buddies __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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23rd October 2006, 20:40	#18 (permalink)
Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 729	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Quote: (Originally Posted by rewrites) Virkon, Virkon S, Pet Virkon - all the same stuff. Just have to have different labels dependng upon end use. Incidentally, it is great stuff, but be careful with your clothes as it can stain them - as my new trousers found out!! Smells great too! Someone once told me there's more quality control to an otherwise identical produc. I myself use EW80 des. It's primary use is for rebreathers and other protective clothing.... __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007
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28th November 2006, 08:51	#19 (permalink)
ccopith New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: cork Posts: 2	Re: What do you use to disinfect your loop ? Hi there, just wondering about the virkon tablets, once it's dissolved whats the shelf life of the solution ?? is it one shot only or can it be kept for a while in a spray can ??
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28th November 2006, 11:14	#20 (permalink)
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