Cost vs suitability

JonnyB · 13th July 2006, 09:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

The Meg is actually cheaper than a YBOD over here.

Dan, I might be temped to sell my second unit if the price was right.

Hi Danny,
As we said the last time, a second hand inspo, you can get at a nice price, it is very difficult to compare cost vs versatility when you compare a second hand inspo and a brand new meg.
I told you that i thought a inspo would be good for you, atleast moneywise, but if i was you i would take up on Steve and have a look at his unit. Compare second hand inspo with second hand meg. I will always say GO MEG!!!

/Jonny

cavediverdan · 13th July 2006, 18:28

Thanks guys,

Yeah Jonny,it was our conversation that shortlisted the YBOD.
Chris, had a good look over Craig's meg and obviously had a thorough briefing on Mick's meg (my enthusiastic dive buddy), still yet to see a YBOD in the flesh.
I will talk to Steve about his unit, going to need to run it by the minister of finance first, she gets more then a little interested when I mention expensive toys. Maybe some creative accounting

Really looking forward to the boys trip report from the Kimberly. Photos of the cave look awesome.

Micko · 14th July 2006, 07:42

Yes Danny when you stop blowing them noisy anoying bubles around me it will be much better.
hurry up

Drmike · 14th July 2006, 08:29

The Meg does allow you to use different tank sizes and configuration which can be handy for cave diving.

For example you may decide to wholey side mount your O2 and Dil, use larger or smaller tanks. Put suit/wing inflation gas tank where dil tank would go and run off board dil etc. This flexibility may help on some big dives to minimise the number and size of tanks you need to carry. You can do some of this with YBOD but with Meg set up its likley going to be easier and more flexible.

decoweenie · 14th July 2006, 11:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

...You can do some of this with YBOD but with Meg set up its likley going to be easier and more flexible.

I could do all of what you mentioned with current Vision-unit set-up...

E-man · 14th July 2006, 12:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

You can either remove the whip and overpressureize the loop while pressing the add button (its slow but it works) or you can loosen up the manual add and purge gas, as soon as gas starts escaping, tighten it down..

Eeek that sounds a bit risky...

***jradomski*** · 15th July 2006, 04:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by E-man)

Eeek that sounds a bit risky...

not really.. once you understand and practice the technique its easy.. The safest is to just remove the inflator hose.. when you stop pressing its sealed.. Loosing the inflator is safe as well you just need to loosen it up enough to break the seal and allow the water to be forced out.. once you see bubbles, you tighten it back up..

When I practice it in a pool I purposely flood both inhale and exhale counterlungs more than half each, and can completely clear them without any problems..

I first clear the inhale side, which is very easy.. I reach back on the inhale side and pinch the hose between the t and the scrubber and activate adv.. gas is quickly forced out the manual dill add.. (it works fastest with the dsv closed or the hose to the dsv pinched as well)

In heavy drysuit underwear I have to do it slightly difference because movement is restricted a bit.. I just pinch the hose between dsv and T on inhale side..

diamond al · 19th July 2006, 20:45

Myself and my misses dive Megs,
While the inspo will serve you well for the area you want as my mates and I have dived it plenty and they use them,we chose Megs as they are built tougher and we are rough with our gear.

On the note of being rough on gear our megs just survived a car crash that wrote our car.
It ruined my drysuit neck seal,Hid and computor but the Megs are still diving well over here in the sunny 30+degree UK weather.

Cheers Al

13th July 2006, 09:55	#11 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 975	Re: Cost vs suitability Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) The Meg is actually cheaper than a YBOD over here. Dan, I might be temped to sell my second unit if the price was right. Hi Danny, As we said the last time, a second hand inspo, you can get at a nice price, it is very difficult to compare cost vs versatility when you compare a second hand inspo and a brand new meg. I told you that i thought a inspo would be good for you, atleast moneywise, but if i was you i would take up on Steve and have a look at his unit. Compare second hand inspo with second hand meg. I will always say GO MEG!!! /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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13th July 2006, 18:28	#12 (permalink)
cavediverdan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth Posts: 2	Re: Cost vs suitability Thanks guys, Yeah Jonny,it was our conversation that shortlisted the YBOD. Chris, had a good look over Craig's meg and obviously had a thorough briefing on Mick's meg (my enthusiastic dive buddy), still yet to see a YBOD in the flesh. I will talk to Steve about his unit, going to need to run it by the minister of finance first, she gets more then a little interested when I mention expensive toys. Maybe some creative accounting Really looking forward to the boys trip report from the Kimberly. Photos of the cave look awesome.
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14th July 2006, 07:42	#13 (permalink)
Micko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: perth Posts: 114	Re: Cost vs suitability Yes Danny when you stop blowing them noisy anoying bubles around me it will be much better. hurry up
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14th July 2006, 08:29	#14 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,303	Re: Cost vs suitability The Meg does allow you to use different tank sizes and configuration which can be handy for cave diving. For example you may decide to wholey side mount your O2 and Dil, use larger or smaller tanks. Put suit/wing inflation gas tank where dil tank would go and run off board dil etc. This flexibility may help on some big dives to minimise the number and size of tanks you need to carry. You can do some of this with YBOD but with Meg set up its likley going to be easier and more flexible. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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14th July 2006, 11:49	#15 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Cost vs suitability Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) ...You can do some of this with YBOD but with Meg set up its likley going to be easier and more flexible. I could do all of what you mentioned with current Vision-unit set-up... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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14th July 2006, 12:19	#16 (permalink)
E-man On the loop! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other Rebreather/s: Titan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Eastern Coast ;) Posts: 212	Re: Cost vs suitability Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) You can either remove the whip and overpressureize the loop while pressing the add button (its slow but it works) or you can loosen up the manual add and purge gas, as soon as gas starts escaping, tighten it down.. Eeek that sounds a bit risky...
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15th July 2006, 04:51	#17 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,000	Re: Cost vs suitability Quote: (Originally Posted by E-man) Eeek that sounds a bit risky... not really.. once you understand and practice the technique its easy.. The safest is to just remove the inflator hose.. when you stop pressing its sealed.. Loosing the inflator is safe as well you just need to loosen it up enough to break the seal and allow the water to be forced out.. once you see bubbles, you tighten it back up.. When I practice it in a pool I purposely flood both inhale and exhale counterlungs more than half each, and can completely clear them without any problems.. I first clear the inhale side, which is very easy.. I reach back on the inhale side and pinch the hose between the t and the scrubber and activate adv.. gas is quickly forced out the manual dill add.. (it works fastest with the dsv closed or the hose to the dsv pinched as well) In heavy drysuit underwear I have to do it slightly difference because movement is restricted a bit.. I just pinch the hose between dsv and T on inhale side.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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19th July 2006, 20:45	#18 (permalink)
diamond al diamond al Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brighton UK Posts: 24	Re: Cost vs suitability Myself and my misses dive Megs, While the inspo will serve you well for the area you want as my mates and I have dived it plenty and they use them,we chose Megs as they are built tougher and we are rough with our gear. On the note of being rough on gear our megs just survived a car crash that wrote our car. It ruined my drysuit neck seal,Hid and computor but the Megs are still diving well over here in the sunny 30+degree UK weather. Cheers Al
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