weight ?

colinicky · 6th May 2005, 16:38

hi
currently i dive twin 12's on a cd tdb wing & plate + 6 kilos of lead .now the i'm wondering if when i go to an evo or inspo will i need more lead once i am used to the thing .i realise that to start with i will possible need more anyway due to stress nerves etc also has anybody dived with both & is there any weighting difference between them ?
many thanks
colin

***caveseeker7*** · 6th May 2005, 17:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

is there any weighting difference between them ?

Haven't tried them but there should be.
Most of the loop, and hence positive bouyancy, is the same: Hoses, ADV, breathing bags. The main difference is the scrubber, and that not by all that much.
Yet the Evo weights quite a bit less than the Inspo due to smaller tanks, case and cannister.

Pierre Farrugia · 6th May 2005, 19:14

I dive a wetsuit but I think that the difference is what should interest you! With twin 12's and CD wing and BP, I use 4kg lead. Now with the YBOD I have 8kgs on waist and 3kgs on YBOD. SO I had to increase weight by 7kgs. But I think I can drop 1 kg.

Hope this helps

***schford*** · 6th May 2005, 19:22

Damn I dropped 5Kg going from Twin 12s to the Meg...

Stuart

colinicky · 6th May 2005, 20:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Damn I dropped 5Kg going from Twin 12s to the Meg...

Stuart

how heavy is a meg to start with ? what size cylinders do you use ?
colin

***schford*** · 6th May 2005, 20:29

3L Faber Steels - damn weight your abotu that 30th person to ask me I really got to weigh it! all i know is it lighter than my twin 12s and old back plate...

Stuart

Mark Chase · 6th May 2005, 22:08

4kg with a twinset and back plate

12kg in the unit including the back plate. This is down from the 15Kg I started with. I can get it down to 10 with no undersuit on.

The Evo I dived with 10KG no problem at all in my 2.5m neo and with the undersuit so there is about a 2kg of lead saving with the Evo.

It swims far better than the Inspo and its a hell of a lot lighter to walk about in. The scrubber on the Meg is actually bigger than the inspo and the counterlungs and loop are about the same so it must be the weight of the metal can that saves on lead. Air is Air so they should be about the same for floaty-ness in terms of the voids inside.

ATB

Mark Chase

***schford*** · 6th May 2005, 22:47

Nah looop on Meg wayyyy smaller....when we hook up Mark you compare loop hoses to iinspy!

Stuart

Andy Del · 7th May 2005, 02:06

You need to go for a classic KISS! Twin 12.2L, SS backplate, two ally stages with drysuit, needed about 4lbs of lead. (

Yes, Australia still uses imperial weights in diving... must be that no one thought to get metric molds!) With the classic bolted onto the SS backplate and the same stages, I thought I needed 6lbs on my waist and 4 on my shoulders; until I forgot to put all that weight on.

Now I use nothing.

(This banana is so cool)

buggeriamold · 7th May 2005, 02:32

Clasic kiss, less weight for me!

6th May 2005, 16:38	#1 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	weight ? hi currently i dive twin 12's on a cd tdb wing & plate + 6 kilos of lead .now the i'm wondering if when i go to an evo or inspo will i need more lead once i am used to the thing .i realise that to start with i will possible need more anyway due to stress nerves etc also has anybody dived with both & is there any weighting difference between them ? many thanks colin
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6th May 2005, 17:22	#2 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) is there any weighting difference between them ? Haven't tried them but there should be. Most of the loop, and hence positive bouyancy, is the same: Hoses, ADV, breathing bags. The main difference is the scrubber, and that not by all that much. Yet the Evo weights quite a bit less than the Inspo due to smaller tanks, case and cannister. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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6th May 2005, 19:14	#3 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	I dive a wetsuit but I think that the difference is what should interest you! With twin 12's and CD wing and BP, I use 4kg lead. Now with the YBOD I have 8kgs on waist and 3kgs on YBOD. SO I had to increase weight by 7kgs. But I think I can drop 1 kg. Hope this helps __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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6th May 2005, 19:22	#4 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,562	Damn I dropped 5Kg going from Twin 12s to the Meg... Stuart
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6th May 2005, 20:02	#5 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 667	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Damn I dropped 5Kg going from Twin 12s to the Meg... Stuart how heavy is a meg to start with ? what size cylinders do you use ? colin
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6th May 2005, 20:29	#6 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,562	3L Faber Steels - damn weight your abotu that 30th person to ask me I really got to weigh it! all i know is it lighter than my twin 12s and old back plate... Stuart
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6th May 2005, 22:08	#7 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,700	4kg with a twinset and back plate 12kg in the unit including the back plate. This is down from the 15Kg I started with. I can get it down to 10 with no undersuit on. The Evo I dived with 10KG no problem at all in my 2.5m neo and with the undersuit so there is about a 2kg of lead saving with the Evo. It swims far better than the Inspo and its a hell of a lot lighter to walk about in. The scrubber on the Meg is actually bigger than the inspo and the counterlungs and loop are about the same so it must be the weight of the metal can that saves on lead. Air is Air so they should be about the same for floaty-ness in terms of the voids inside. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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6th May 2005, 22:47	#8 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,562	Nah looop on Meg wayyyy smaller....when we hook up Mark you compare loop hoses to iinspy! Stuart
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7th May 2005, 02:06	#9 (permalink)
Andy Del Classic KISSer Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Sunny Sydney Posts: 422	You need to go for a classic KISS! Twin 12.2L, SS backplate, two ally stages with drysuit, needed about 4lbs of lead. ( Yes, Australia still uses imperial weights in diving... must be that no one thought to get metric molds!) With the classic bolted onto the SS backplate and the same stages, I thought I needed 6lbs on my waist and 4 on my shoulders; until I forgot to put all that weight on. Now I use nothing. (This banana is so cool) __________________ Yellow - the colour of greatness!
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7th May 2005, 02:32	#10 (permalink)
buggeriamold Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: australia Posts: 100	Clasic kiss, less weight for me! __________________ Well, it is cheap stuff and it comes almost from the local gardening store, but it works fine and it's very solid. We tried to destroy one by hitting it with a hammer... we succeeded but we really had to hit it hard.
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