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jiseson · 8th June 2006, 20:57

The Optima seems to have hit the nail on the head in all depts.-i am looking to buy a CCR and gravity is pulling me here- looking for the good,bad and ugly pls.

**JPJones** · 9th June 2006, 01:48

I have 2 of them and for the money they are hard to beat. I have had minimal problems and acually till I sent my prototype off for new handsets none. But Murphy got me and I had a pressure transducer on my secondary handset go out on my production model but was only down 2 days before they got my prototype back and a week and a half later both units are working and Keven changed out the cases on my production unit to the latest and greatest while he had it for repair.

I have had my protype for over 2 years and other than when I sent it in to be upgraded it hasn't missed a beat.

andibk · 9th June 2006, 02:52

Can someone give me some contact info to get ahold of these guys to get a unit. Thanks in advance.

andibk

***caveseeker7*** · 9th June 2006, 03:09

DiveRiteExpress is a retailer and Rebreather World sponsor, link is on the front page.

**Steve** · 9th June 2006, 03:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson)

The Optima seems to have hit the nail on the head in all depts.-i am looking to buy a CCR and gravity is pulling me here- looking for the good,bad and ugly pls.

I'm sure you will get lots of people saying they are tops but for what it is worth there are 2 reasons why I would not buy an Optima. The micropore scrubber cartridges don't perform as well as sorb and cost a lot more and the ever bug riddled Hammerhead. For me, the Optima is at the bottom of the list for current CCRs

decoweenie · 9th June 2006, 04:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

For me, the Optima is at the bottom of the list for current CCRs

Second that.

Jason Blackwell · 9th June 2006, 04:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by andibk)

Can someone give me some contact info to get ahold of these guys to get a unit. Thanks in advance.

andibk

Talk to your local DiveRite distributor.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 9th June 2006, 04:52

There are opinions, to which everyone is entitled, and there are facts. If you are stating one or the other, it would make things clearer if you would please indicate which is which.

Performance data on most CCRs can skew in such as way as to make it difficult to compare various units in a complete apples to apples manner. Some test based on certain criteria and others test based upon other factors. Not everyone releases all of the testing information, and what is released is often not in the same formats. There are certain patterns that seem to emerge. However, it seems to this un-scientist that most of the major players out there on the market have something to claim when it comes to performance.

Some people like the Extend Air Cartridges, and some people don't like them. With more frequency, boat captains will tell you that they like them especially after someone blows scrubber dust and leaves grains of scrubber on their nice boats.

The EAC virtually eliminates the chances of caustic cocktails unless the diver floods the loop and then leaves the loop flooded for some time. I consider this an advantage. I am okay with paying a little extra for this added safety aspect. (Speaking of price, this will come closer to scrubber grains over time due to mass production efficiencies. After all of the money spent on a CCR, a few extra bucks one way or the other per dive doesn't seem like much of a reason to select another CCR.)

The EAC will produce consistent WOB and consistent results when compared to loose scrubber material, which does not always get packed the same dive after dive no matter what anybody tells you about his or her packing method. The EAC eliminates channeling. Loose scrubber allows for this to occur.

As far as the design of the Optima itself goes, the horizontal scrubber design makes the WOB very easy. There are a lot of parts that are easy to get and servicing the unit is easy since a lot of the unit uses standard scuba parts that are tried and true for years. Though it is a new unit to the market, most of what is on it has been out for years. All Dive Rite did was to bring it all together.

Are things perfect? No. There have been issues with getting the upgrades to the handsets. However, this seems to be improving as the production gets ramped up.

In that regard, check out how long the service takes with some of the other CCR's out there. I have heard of repairs commonly taking place over the course of months, not weeks. So, many units on the market have similar issues.

There are other good models on the market. Each has something that stands out as a positive. Each has something that can be improved.

I do not take it as a personal insult if you don't like the Optima. However, I like the idea of at least trying to be as neutral as possible about evaluations of products unless perhaps I were the manufacturer.

I am enjoying every minute with my Optima, and I do not in any way regret my decision to get one.

Ben Field · 9th June 2006, 09:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

For me, the Optima is at the bottom of the list for current CCRs

Remember- Opinions are like a*seholes, everyones got one.

Having said that.... I don't much like the extendair scrubber either, I've yet to see a real advantage over pouring in a bucket of slime, still- each to their own.

Anyone got an Optima in the Uk yet? I'd like to take a close up look at one, pictures on the web are fine but you need to poke around something like this before slapping your wedge down IMVHO.

BEN

**JPJones** · 9th June 2006, 11:19

I have one question for the nay sayers have you ever dove the Optima and used the Micropore Cartridge in the Optima. I dive both Kisses, the MEG and the Inspiration and I still love my Optima.

8th June 2006, 20:57	#1 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 432	Diverite The Optima seems to have hit the nail on the head in all depts.-i am looking to buy a CCR and gravity is pulling me here- looking for the good,bad and ugly pls.
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9th June 2006, 01:48	#2 (permalink)
JPJones O2ptima Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima Titan Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 367	Re: Diverite I have 2 of them and for the money they are hard to beat. I have had minimal problems and acually till I sent my prototype off for new handsets none. But Murphy got me and I had a pressure transducer on my secondary handset go out on my production model but was only down 2 days before they got my prototype back and a week and a half later both units are working and Keven changed out the cases on my production unit to the latest and greatest while he had it for repair. I have had my protype for over 2 years and other than when I sent it in to be upgraded it hasn't missed a beat. __________________ NSS/CDS Training Chairman www.jpjscuba.com
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9th June 2006, 02:52	#3 (permalink)
andibk New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss Dolphin Azimuth Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 146	Re: Diverite Can someone give me some contact info to get ahold of these guys to get a unit. Thanks in advance. andibk
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9th June 2006, 03:09	#4 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,286	Re: Diverite DiveRiteExpress is a retailer and Rebreather World sponsor, link is on the front page. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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9th June 2006, 03:50	#5 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,045	Re: Diverite Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson) The Optima seems to have hit the nail on the head in all depts.-i am looking to buy a CCR and gravity is pulling me here- looking for the good,bad and ugly pls. I'm sure you will get lots of people saying they are tops but for what it is worth there are 2 reasons why I would not buy an Optima. The micropore scrubber cartridges don't perform as well as sorb and cost a lot more and the ever bug riddled Hammerhead. For me, the Optima is at the bottom of the list for current CCRs __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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9th June 2006, 04:17	#6 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Diverite Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) For me, the Optima is at the bottom of the list for current CCRs Second that.
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9th June 2006, 04:26	#7 (permalink)
Jason Blackwell Bloody Rebreathers! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Posts: 361	Re: Diverite Quote: (Originally Posted by andibk) Can someone give me some contact info to get ahold of these guys to get a unit. Thanks in advance. andibk Talk to your local DiveRite distributor. __________________ Jason Blackwell TDI Instructor Trainer #1358 Optima...Inspiration/Evolution...KISS...and what is next??? www.divedivedive.com.au OZTeK '09 March 2009 Sydney, Australia www.diveoztek.com.au
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9th June 2006, 04:52	#8 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,896	Re: Diverite There are opinions, to which everyone is entitled, and there are facts. If you are stating one or the other, it would make things clearer if you would please indicate which is which. Performance data on most CCRs can skew in such as way as to make it difficult to compare various units in a complete apples to apples manner. Some test based on certain criteria and others test based upon other factors. Not everyone releases all of the testing information, and what is released is often not in the same formats. There are certain patterns that seem to emerge. However, it seems to this un-scientist that most of the major players out there on the market have something to claim when it comes to performance. Some people like the Extend Air Cartridges, and some people don't like them. With more frequency, boat captains will tell you that they like them especially after someone blows scrubber dust and leaves grains of scrubber on their nice boats. The EAC virtually eliminates the chances of caustic cocktails unless the diver floods the loop and then leaves the loop flooded for some time. I consider this an advantage. I am okay with paying a little extra for this added safety aspect. (Speaking of price, this will come closer to scrubber grains over time due to mass production efficiencies. After all of the money spent on a CCR, a few extra bucks one way or the other per dive doesn't seem like much of a reason to select another CCR.) The EAC will produce consistent WOB and consistent results when compared to loose scrubber material, which does not always get packed the same dive after dive no matter what anybody tells you about his or her packing method. The EAC eliminates channeling. Loose scrubber allows for this to occur. As far as the design of the Optima itself goes, the horizontal scrubber design makes the WOB very easy. There are a lot of parts that are easy to get and servicing the unit is easy since a lot of the unit uses standard scuba parts that are tried and true for years. Though it is a new unit to the market, most of what is on it has been out for years. All Dive Rite did was to bring it all together. Are things perfect? No. There have been issues with getting the upgrades to the handsets. However, this seems to be improving as the production gets ramped up. In that regard, check out how long the service takes with some of the other CCR's out there. I have heard of repairs commonly taking place over the course of months, not weeks. So, many units on the market have similar issues. There are other good models on the market. Each has something that stands out as a positive. Each has something that can be improved. I do not take it as a personal insult if you don't like the Optima. However, I like the idea of at least trying to be as neutral as possible about evaluations of products unless perhaps I were the manufacturer. I am enjoying every minute with my Optima, and I do not in any way regret my decision to get one. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com Last edited by ScubaDadMiami : 9th June 2006 at 04:56.
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9th June 2006, 09:04	#9 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,451	Re: Diverite Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) For me, the Optima is at the bottom of the list for current CCRs Remember- Opinions are like aseholes, everyones got one. Having said that.... I don't much like the extendair scrubber either, I've yet to see a real advantage over pouring in a bucket of slime, still- each to their own. Anyone got an Optima in the Uk yet? I'd like to take a close up look at one, pictures on the web are fine but you need to poke around something like this before slapping your wedge down IMVHO. BEN __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck*
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9th June 2006, 11:19	#10 (permalink)
JPJones O2ptima Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima Titan Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 367	Re: Diverite I have one question for the nay sayers have you ever dove the Optima and used the Micropore Cartridge in the Optima. I dive both Kisses, the MEG and the Inspiration and I still love my Optima. __________________ NSS/CDS Training Chairman www.jpjscuba.com
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