The safest rebreather?

foxgolf · 31st May 2006, 20:58

Hi anyone,

Would you please explain which is the safest rebreather:
Oxygen rebreather
Semi closed rebreather
Close circuit rebreather

Since I'm going to buy one of those for just recreational use.
I really appreciate it

Thanks a lot

Deepwreck · 31st May 2006, 21:21

Ha Ha Ha. Your question is funny. Do you think that any devise that allows you to breath your own exhailed air could ever be called safe?

Safety is the responsibility of the user. Any Rebreather is both safe and deadly in the hands of the right or wrong user.

An 02 rebreather will kill you just as fast as a SCR, and or a CCR. Each has pros, and cons. By far the most versitle is the CCR, a SCR will come with depth limits and orphis size limitations, a 02 rebreather is only good to 20 feet.

All are life support machines, and with care will provide hours of fun and enjoyment. and all are protential death machines ready to kill you if you don't understand and are able to deal with whatever they happen to through at you.

***caveseeker7*** · 31st May 2006, 21:44

Some rebreathers have more redundancies and controls than others,
some have ...

... questionable design features.

In the end any rebreather is only as good or as safe as the diver using it.

schwerve · 1st June 2006, 02:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

some have ...

... questionable design features.

Could you elaborate on this, or point me to previous threads where you did so?

***caveseeker7*** · 1st June 2006, 04:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by schwerve)

Could you elaborate on this, or point me to previous threads where you did so?

Lack of independent pO2 monitor - AP
Lack of any secondary display - CCR2000
Batteries in the loop - AP, ISC
Solenoid in the loop - AP, ISC, DR
SS piping for O2 inside the loop - ISC
Manual O2 injection into inhale counterlung - ISC
Tanks on the "wrong" side - SMI
Lack of any pO2 monitor - every SCR !

Those are some I've questioned in the past.
Plenty more, just spend some time reading old forum threads.

trash · 2nd June 2006, 12:18

Like my instructor said to me:
These things can and do kill people.
(I'm not sure if he was talking about a car or a rebreather at the time)

He did however also point out that the most important part of a rebreather is "the diver". The diver not only powers the rebreather, the diver's software (his brain) is what makes it operate correctly and safely. When the brain is not programed correctly or is malfunctioning for whatever reason, the rebreather tends to reject the brain attached to it.

31st May 2006, 20:58	#1 (permalink)
foxgolf New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA, US Posts: 1	The safest rebreather? Hi anyone, Would you please explain which is the safest rebreather: Oxygen rebreather Semi closed rebreather Close circuit rebreather Since I'm going to buy one of those for just recreational use. I really appreciate it Thanks a lot
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31st May 2006, 21:21	#2 (permalink)
Deepwreck Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 112	Re: The safest rebreather? Ha Ha Ha. Your question is funny. Do you think that any devise that allows you to breath your own exhailed air could ever be called safe? Safety is the responsibility of the user. Any Rebreather is both safe and deadly in the hands of the right or wrong user. An 02 rebreather will kill you just as fast as a SCR, and or a CCR. Each has pros, and cons. By far the most versitle is the CCR, a SCR will come with depth limits and orphis size limitations, a 02 rebreather is only good to 20 feet. All are life support machines, and with care will provide hours of fun and enjoyment. and all are protential death machines ready to kill you if you don't understand and are able to deal with whatever they happen to through at you.
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31st May 2006, 21:44	#3 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,286	Re: The safest rebreather? Some rebreathers have more redundancies and controls than others, some have ... ... questionable design features. In the end any rebreather is only as good or as safe as the diver using it. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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1st June 2006, 02:19	#4 (permalink)
schwerve New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 12	Re: The safest rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) some have ... ... questionable design features. Could you elaborate on this, or point me to previous threads where you did so?
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1st June 2006, 04:11	#5 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,286	Re: The safest rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by schwerve) Could you elaborate on this, or point me to previous threads where you did so? Lack of independent pO2 monitor - AP Lack of any secondary display - CCR2000 Batteries in the loop - AP, ISC Solenoid in the loop - AP, ISC, DR SS piping for O2 inside the loop - ISC Manual O2 injection into inhale counterlung - ISC Tanks on the "wrong" side - SMI Lack of any pO2 monitor - every SCR ! Those are some I've questioned in the past. Plenty more, just spend some time reading old forum threads. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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2nd June 2006, 12:18	#6 (permalink)
trash New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 16	Re: The safest rebreather? Like my instructor said to me: These things can and do kill people. (I'm not sure if he was talking about a car or a rebreather at the time) He did however also point out that the most important part of a rebreather is "the diver". The diver not only powers the rebreather, the diver's software (his brain) is what makes it operate correctly and safely. When the brain is not programed correctly or is malfunctioning for whatever reason, the rebreather tends to reject the brain attached to it.
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