How tight are you packing?

**woody** · 12th February 2006, 18:58

I wish it was just the tap tap tapping that was needed to get a tight scrubber!!! ho ho ho.

You can;t over pack them, that was what i was told on the course(Meg)

iani · 12th February 2006, 19:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by woody)

I wish it was just the tap tap tapping that was needed to get a tight scrubber!!! ho ho ho.

You can;t over pack them, that was what i was told on the course(Meg)

Hmmm, I haven't tried packing a Meg scrubber but the statement seems fairly improbable to me.

Ian

divetheworld · 12th February 2006, 19:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

Thump thump thump.
Pat pat pat.
When it stops going down I stop trying to make it go down.

Exactly the same here, usually if I fill to the rim, I pat all around until I can top it up. Usually I can top it up three times -ish before it stops going down any more. Then box it up.

brent

**woody** · 12th February 2006, 23:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by iani)

Hmmm, I haven't tried packing a Meg scrubber but the statement seems fairly improbable to me.

Ian

I have packed a few and the statement was made by someone who had packed loads, (all types) taken in context and not using a vibration that would reduce the lime to dust i think it was valid. If you were to try and over fill, the lid would not go on as it is a mesh with a spring catch and bar. As the cannister is made from a relatively thick walled perspex type material it will not flex and loose shape by over packing.

Hope this clarifies the comment

R

Mike

cys · 12th February 2006, 23:49

Really tight. I fill in successive thirds. After adding each third of scrubber material, I rotate the scrubber while tapping a bottom edge of it on the ground and follow this with rotating it while hitting it on the side with a screw driver handle. I find I get the tightest pack with my [Classic] KISS scrubber by putting (reasonable) downward pressure on the top mesh screen while simultaneously tapping the side of the scrubber with a screwdriver handle.

Add edit: [Classic] KISS

decoweenie · 13th February 2006, 08:36

For SK divers, do not pack your scrubber as tight as these guys do.

For the reason, read the KISS archive around Jan-2005.

Mark Chase · 13th February 2006, 12:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

I like my scrubbers to be tight! Ha ha ha!

Seriously, I pack it as tight as I can.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

What he said on both counts

Third tap tap tap another third tap tap tap etc nutill several healthey slaps will not result in any slack on the center nut.

Showed Ammers she said I was packing too tight but like Juz i never noticed a WOB problem so ill stick with it.

YBOD

ATB

Mark Chase

magentaseas · 13th February 2006, 15:09

Hi

I recently did the PADI Drager Dolphin course and was told that I shouldnt pack it really tight because it could get to a point where it could restrict my breathing! But then SCRs are simpler than CCRs.

I just know when it comes to setting up on my own for the first time Im going to be so paranoid that the scrubber could be too loose or too tight!

cheers

Sharon

James Appel · 13th February 2006, 15:53

Thanks for the info everyone, it has helped in that I guess I'm not over packing. Now this brings up another question .

For the Inspiration users

Has anyone ever packed there can so tight that it deformed? It doesn't seem to be possible to deform the can if you only use the tap-tap-tap on the sides method (as you would not be forcing the material into the can, but only getting rid of any space, letting it settle).
It seems to me that if I were to try (witch I would never do) to push more material into the can from top then this is the only way to deform the can?

Push push push Williams.... push push push

Depth-junkie · 13th February 2006, 17:02

I like my scrubers with fishnets and boots

LOL

I fill can half way, then tap-tap-tap all around the can till the lime does not settle (drop down) anymore. Then fill to the top and repeat the above steps when lime settles i top off again to the top of the can then place scrim and spider with locking nut, finger tighten nut hold the can on my chest, 2-3 big slaps around the can then retighten nut. repeat slaps again then retighen nut and good to go. So i pack pretty tight cant say i have noticed any probs with WOB (inspo). And when emptying i cant say that i have ever noticed any crushed lime.

ATB
Gareth

12th February 2006, 18:58	#11 (permalink)
woody Mmmm Rubber!! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wiltshire UK Posts: 198	Re: How tight are you packing? I wish it was just the tap tap tapping that was needed to get a tight scrubber!!! ho ho ho. You can;t over pack them, that was what i was told on the course(Meg) __________________ Not eloquent enough for a smart arse signature!
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12th February 2006, 19:04	#12 (permalink)
iani Nefarious Activist Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middlesex, UK Posts: 334	Re: How tight are you packing? Quote: (Originally Posted by woody) I wish it was just the tap tap tapping that was needed to get a tight scrubber!!! ho ho ho. You can;t over pack them, that was what i was told on the course(Meg) Hmmm, I haven't tried packing a Meg scrubber but the statement seems fairly improbable to me. Ian
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12th February 2006, 19:05	#13 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,585	Re: How tight are you packing? Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) Thump thump thump. Pat pat pat. When it stops going down I stop trying to make it go down. Exactly the same here, usually if I fill to the rim, I pat all around until I can top it up. Usually I can top it up three times -ish before it stops going down any more. Then box it up. brent __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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12th February 2006, 23:17	#14 (permalink)
woody Mmmm Rubber!! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wiltshire UK Posts: 198	Re: How tight are you packing? Quote: (Originally Posted by iani) Hmmm, I haven't tried packing a Meg scrubber but the statement seems fairly improbable to me. Ian I have packed a few and the statement was made by someone who had packed loads, (all types) taken in context and not using a vibration that would reduce the lime to dust i think it was valid. If you were to try and over fill, the lid would not go on as it is a mesh with a spring catch and bar. As the cannister is made from a relatively thick walled perspex type material it will not flex and loose shape by over packing. Hope this clarifies the comment R Mike __________________ Not eloquent enough for a smart arse signature!
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12th February 2006, 23:49	#15 (permalink)
cys ck #157 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: S. California Posts: 204	Re: How tight are you packing? Really tight. I fill in successive thirds. After adding each third of scrubber material, I rotate the scrubber while tapping a bottom edge of it on the ground and follow this with rotating it while hitting it on the side with a screw driver handle. I find I get the tightest pack with my [Classic] KISS scrubber by putting (reasonable) downward pressure on the top mesh screen while simultaneously tapping the side of the scrubber with a screwdriver handle. Add edit: [Classic] KISS Last edited by cys : 13th February 2006 at 15:29.
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13th February 2006, 08:36	#16 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: How tight are you packing? For SK divers, do not pack your scrubber as tight as these guys do. For the reason, read the KISS archive around Jan-2005. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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13th February 2006, 12:00	#17 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,694	Re: How tight are you packing? Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) I like my scrubbers to be tight! Ha ha ha! Seriously, I pack it as tight as I can. Cheers, Dave Cooper. What he said on both counts Third tap tap tap another third tap tap tap etc nutill several healthey slaps will not result in any slack on the center nut. Showed Ammers she said I was packing too tight but like Juz i never noticed a WOB problem so ill stick with it. YBOD ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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13th February 2006, 15:09	#18 (permalink)
magentaseas New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: London Posts: 56	Re: How tight are you packing? Hi I recently did the PADI Drager Dolphin course and was told that I shouldnt pack it really tight because it could get to a point where it could restrict my breathing! But then SCRs are simpler than CCRs. I just know when it comes to setting up on my own for the first time Im going to be so paranoid that the scrubber could be too loose or too tight! cheers Sharon Last edited by magentaseas : 13th February 2006 at 15:11.
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13th February 2006, 15:53	#19 (permalink)
James Appel New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 60	Re: How tight are you packing? Thanks for the info everyone, it has helped in that I guess I'm not over packing. Now this brings up another question . For the Inspiration users Has anyone ever packed there can so tight that it deformed? It doesn't seem to be possible to deform the can if you only use the tap-tap-tap on the sides method (as you would not be forcing the material into the can, but only getting rid of any space, letting it settle). It seems to me that if I were to try (witch I would never do) to push more material into the can from top then this is the only way to deform the can? Push push push Williams.... push push push
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13th February 2006, 17:02	#20 (permalink)
Depth-junkie 10/52 Psycho Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wrexham Posts: 298	Re: How tight are you packing? I like my scrubers with fishnets and boots LOL I fill can half way, then tap-tap-tap all around the can till the lime does not settle (drop down) anymore. Then fill to the top and repeat the above steps when lime settles i top off again to the top of the can then place scrim and spider with locking nut, finger tighten nut hold the can on my chest, 2-3 big slaps around the can then retighten nut. repeat slaps again then retighen nut and good to go. So i pack pretty tight cant say i have noticed any probs with WOB (inspo). And when emptying i cant say that i have ever noticed any crushed lime. ATB Gareth
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