Question for Inspiration Classic users

James Appel · 18th January 2006, 06:59

I have something that has come up in my reading of the manual (yes I am brand new to re-breathers).

How do you route the lines to your Oxygen controllers (I noticed the manual shows them going through a sleeve along side the counterlungs. This would seem to keep them tiddy and clean, out of the way, etc. But then to service the scribber cartridge would make it more of a pain, as you would have to remove the lid leaving it still attached to the unit.

I myself have them free and unattached to anything but the scrubber lid, this allows me to remove the scrubber cartridge along with the controllers still attached to it.

I was just wondering if anyone had theres running through the sleeve along side the CL's, and how it works out if you do.

jhaaja · 18th January 2006, 07:04

I have never seen anyone diving with the handset hoses attached to the lungs. I just feed the hoses down under my armpit and then clip off the handsets to the D-rings on the lungs.

Hope this helps.

JH
Finland

deepnark · 18th January 2006, 07:19

hi
yes i just have them under my arm and clipped on to a d ring at the front

***Beanie*** · 18th January 2006, 08:04

Handset hoses go through the three loops on the outside of the CLs
The HP hoses goes throught the flap on the inside of the CL - this is probably where the handset hoses you've seen go.
The inflator hoses go down the sleeve inside the CL

***Decodiver*** · 18th January 2006, 08:32

I run the inflator hoses through the closed pathway on the inside of the lungs to avoid any potentiel snagging and then route both handsets on top of them through the velcro flaps. It takes two seconds to replace or remove them.

I then clip the handsets to each other, this allows me to check both of them simultaneously when checking my PPO2.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

decoweenie · 18th January 2006, 08:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

I then clip the handsets to each other, this allows me to check both of them simultaneously when checking my PPO2.

Just curious...

Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ?

jhaaja · 18th January 2006, 09:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Just curious...

Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ?

Last week my slave was displaying odd ppO2 values. Cells 2 and 3 were about 0.2 below set-point. The slave handset was also showing cell error, but the readings on master were all OK.

I tried to correct it by shutting down the handsets. Did not work and I think the reason was that I turned the master first off. I should have done it the other way.

Somehow the slave had wrong calibration values and when I started the other handset it took over the wrong ones.

Eventually I fixed the issue by calibrating again because I was still on the surface. The problem showed up during pre-breath on the surface.

JH
Finland

***Decodiver*** · 18th January 2006, 09:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Just curious...

Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ?

From memory, I would say slight differences, yes, I also check by looking at them both, that one (or both) hasn't been inadvertently switched off.

I teach my students, and practice myself, that at the point they check a handset and see it is switched off, before checking the other handset, they immediately do a flush. Diluent at depth and O2 on the surface.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

James Appel · 18th January 2006, 15:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

I run the inflator hoses through the closed pathway on the inside of the lungs to avoid any potentiel snagging and then route both handsets on top of them through the velcro flaps. It takes two seconds to replace or remove them.

I then clip the handsets to each other, this allows me to check both of them simultaneously when checking my PPO2.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

So where do you route the HP guage hoses?

AD_ward9 · 18th January 2006, 22:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Just curious...

Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ?

I have seen them drastically different when things have gone mildly wrong and this of course has drastic consequences. As have quite a few others.
I have seen them differ when the O2 injector comes on. As have quite a few others.
When I first got the unit with pre-red backlit handsets, I have seen one handset hang (alas the one in charge) and the other one remains in slave mode. As have quite a few others. The new backlit handsets should hang less than once in 80k hours, on average.

Alex

18th January 2006, 06:59	#1 (permalink)
James Appel New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 60	Question for Inspiration Classic users I have something that has come up in my reading of the manual (yes I am brand new to re-breathers). How do you route the lines to your Oxygen controllers (I noticed the manual shows them going through a sleeve along side the counterlungs. This would seem to keep them tiddy and clean, out of the way, etc. But then to service the scribber cartridge would make it more of a pain, as you would have to remove the lid leaving it still attached to the unit. I myself have them free and unattached to anything but the scrubber lid, this allows me to remove the scrubber cartridge along with the controllers still attached to it. I was just wondering if anyone had theres running through the sleeve along side the CL's, and how it works out if you do.
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18th January 2006, 07:04	#2 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users I have never seen anyone diving with the handset hoses attached to the lungs. I just feed the hoses down under my armpit and then clip off the handsets to the D-rings on the lungs. Hope this helps. JH Finland
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18th January 2006, 07:19	#3 (permalink)
deepnark Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: norfolk uk Posts: 171	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users hi yes i just have them under my arm and clipped on to a d ring at the front
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18th January 2006, 08:04	#4 (permalink)
*Beanie* Cheif tea maker Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,141	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users Handset hoses go through the three loops on the outside of the CLs The HP hoses goes throught the flap on the inside of the CL - this is probably where the handset hoses you've seen go. The inflator hoses go down the sleeve inside the CL __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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18th January 2006, 08:32	#5 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,164	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users I run the inflator hoses through the closed pathway on the inside of the lungs to avoid any potentiel snagging and then route both handsets on top of them through the velcro flaps. It takes two seconds to replace or remove them. I then clip the handsets to each other, this allows me to check both of them simultaneously when checking my PPO2. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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18th January 2006, 08:39	#6 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) I then clip the handsets to each other, this allows me to check both of them simultaneously when checking my PPO2. Just curious... Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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18th January 2006, 09:10	#7 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 867	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Just curious... Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ? Last week my slave was displaying odd ppO2 values. Cells 2 and 3 were about 0.2 below set-point. The slave handset was also showing cell error, but the readings on master were all OK. I tried to correct it by shutting down the handsets. Did not work and I think the reason was that I turned the master first off. I should have done it the other way. Somehow the slave had wrong calibration values and when I started the other handset it took over the wrong ones. Eventually I fixed the issue by calibrating again because I was still on the surface. The problem showed up during pre-breath on the surface. JH Finland
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18th January 2006, 09:10	#8 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,164	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Just curious... Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ? From memory, I would say slight differences, yes, I also check by looking at them both, that one (or both) hasn't been inadvertently switched off. I teach my students, and practice myself, that at the point they check a handset and see it is switched off, before checking the other handset, they immediately do a flush. Diluent at depth and O2 on the surface. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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18th January 2006, 15:41	#9 (permalink)
James Appel New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 60	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) I run the inflator hoses through the closed pathway on the inside of the lungs to avoid any potentiel snagging and then route both handsets on top of them through the velcro flaps. It takes two seconds to replace or remove them. I then clip the handsets to each other, this allows me to check both of them simultaneously when checking my PPO2. Cheers, Dave Cooper. So where do you route the HP guage hoses?
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18th January 2006, 22:27	#10 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,553	Re: Question for Inspiration Classic users Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Just curious... Has anyone seen the values differ between the handsets unless something drastically wrong ? I have seen them drastically different when things have gone mildly wrong and this of course has drastic consequences. As have quite a few others. I have seen them differ when the O2 injector comes on. As have quite a few others. When I first got the unit with pre-red backlit handsets, I have seen one handset hang (alas the one in charge) and the other one remains in slave mode. As have quite a few others. The new backlit handsets should hang less than once in 80k hours, on average. Alex
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