Submatix rebreathers

decoweenie

If wanting to remain on OC, I would suggest a small twin set over a larger single tank.

For example, even something like a set of twin 7L 232bar will be much more stable/thinner profile in the water than a single 15L 232bar. Plus you will have redundancy.

I always start someone wanting to try twinset on a set of twin 7L, and all of them loved it.

Again, I would stay away from 300bar tank since you don't get the same volume as same volume smaller twinset due to gas compressibility.

As far as SCR/CCR choice, if you have any plan to go a little deeper than specified 30-35m range, the CCR will be more adaptable since all you have to do is changing the diluent to trimix from air.

In the meantime, topping off the CCR tanks (air, O2) will be more straight forward, and you could even do it yourself with a transfer whip. Topping off Nitrox will need re-blending.

IMHO, the Sport-KISS is a beautiful unit for your diving range since it is lightweight, small profile, easy to transport, easy to dive and maintain and ready for deeper dives when you want.

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jondive

I agree, getting fills of partial pressure nitrox on the 2 ltr cyls was pain. In busy dive shops they hated them and nearly alway came back short filled afted cooling. This reduced bottom time on the deeper dives having already had to put a faster jet in! Carrying an exrta 12ltr pre mixed with whip on the boat was'nt ideal either

Great to hear your comments on the Kiss, Ill have my first dives on mine at Swanage (UK) this weekend

Ben Field

I have to agree with that, been diving a SK for 6 weeks or so now and everyone is amazed at how un-complicated it is... everyone starts off scoffing and chuckling about "how much extra time and effort it takes to set up and strip down than OC."
Then they watch you fill the tanks and swap out the slime and shut up pretty damn quick.

Its a dream to live with on a weekends diving (haven't taken it away for longer yet) I have turned many of my buddies green with envy when they have to drag their twinsets to the airshop betwwen dives while I have time to woof down another bacon sandwhich and chat with the honeys.... go on, you know it makes sense

BEN

PS- Phi, loving the explorer... now I've worked out what everything on the screen means when underwater!!

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decoweenie

Damn! Should have kept it...

Anyway, give me a detailed review 6 months from now. If you still like it then, I will get a replacement...

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Ben Field

Well... loving the nice big screen and wealth of information.... on the second dive!!
Nearly chucked it in the bin after the first one because it does promote "information overload" there is just SO much going on, on the screen while diving

Taking it on some deeper diving next weekend, time to see what kind of profiles it generates

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decoweenie

That was exactly what I told Gene years ago when I had my first unit.

IMHO, I felt some of the display could be disable while diving. I prefer a clean GUI (similar to the Uwatec screen) where only essential information is displayed so the diver could scan it quickly without squintting his eyes to focus.

And provide an option to display the rest of the information (if needed)

Yes, I would appreciate a feed-back to see how the profile is compared, say, a GF profile...

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koputai

As far as the Submatix goes, it's a well made, neat little unit. It's layout is based on the proven FGT/FGG, but it's constructed in a more recreational vein. I have one in the shed and am looking forward to attacking it with the lathe, mill, and soldering iron.

Jason.

jondive

An therein lies its problem, its hard to find anyone happy to dive it out of the box , standard SCR , which it was designed to be. Most folks appear to quickly want convert it, kiss valve it or hydro watists name it and turn it ccr. If they as pricy in Aus as here that an expensive option (IMO)

Rod Baverstock

Thanks for all your advice . Ive decided to take a course on the Submatix next week and then go to the Dive Show at the end of the month before I finally decide . My main concern is getting hold of pure O2 with a CCR as many of the places I dive ,I have problem getting Nitrox .
Like you said jondive, Andy will always sell me a new rig . Actually he has been very helpful and is arranging for me to borrow a unit to go on the course in France .
Anyway time will tell.
Again many thanks for all your help and I will let you know the outcome
Safe diving to you all

Rod

Deep Thought

At the recent Dema show I saw the Submatix, but did not get a chance to chat with the fellow a the booth. However I did hear that the unit could be converted from scr to ccr for about $600? The one unit was set up with oxygen and dil cylinder?

Question for those using unit: what is the conversion?