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Old 5th September 2005, 11:06   #1 (permalink)
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new and seeking advice please

As a soon-to-be CCR diver - thankyou, for a great site. Now the daft question - to choose a unit, i understand that after all the Q & A you just have to be bold and make a choice and deal with it. I have narrowed my field to the Classic or Sport KISS for a bunch of reasons BUT my dilemma is thus >> i do dive cave, and trimix, but not everyday. It has been suggested that i could buy a Sport initially and then get a Classic in the future - but surely if my in-water experience is on the Sport, then that should be the unit i use for 'moving ahead' ie trimix and cave dives in the future.....or am i just very uninformed and the unit is just NOT suited to that, even with appropriate experience of use and modification ??
I am happy to start 'small' and have a long learning curve - but not to buy something that i cannot grow into......
thanks in advance to anyone who takes time to reply.

PS - i don't see any mention of the Aquatek Voyager SCR/CCR on here. A good friend is just about to start teaching this and he seems very alone in the world......
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Old 5th September 2005, 11:48   #2 (permalink)
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PS - i don't see any mention of the Aquatek Voyager SCR/CCR on here. A good friend is just about to start teaching this and he seems very alone in the world......
Welcome aboard mate,
For sure you will enjoy the site. About the Voyager well, he's not alone really, there are a couple of other fouls using this unit... I, personally, don't ever consider it a rebreather.
Poor support, poor design, poor training,...

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Old 5th September 2005, 12:39   #3 (permalink)
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...buy a Sport initially and then get a Classic in the future...
What was the reason for this suggestion ?

Are you sure you have read the discussion about the Sport-KISS on several separate threads ?
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Old 5th September 2005, 14:20   #4 (permalink)
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My apologies !! as i said - a great site. shame i wasn't that great at following all the threads to the end. which i have now made the time to do. thank you. very excited about the SK now !!

Ref the reply posted about the Voyager - any other views? i have no personal bias or vested interest - just curious as to why it is not mentioned much - it is CE approved i believe and quite a flexible unit.
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Anyone who can shed light on how many O2 sensors the Aquatek Voyager has, and where they are?

On pictures, there is the single sensor Draeger PPO2 meter. The scrubber lid with its rather dangerous looking latches appears to be too shallow to take the O2 sensors. They cannot be relying on the Draeger PPO2 meter, so the sensors must be somewhere: I assume they have found a really nifty place to put them. Where?

How does the CCR side work? Where is the controller?

Again, just for interest has I have not seen the Aquatek in real life.

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My apologies !! as i said - a great site. shame i wasn't that great at following all the threads to the end. which i have now made the time to do. thank you. very excited about the SK now !!

Ref the reply posted about the Voyager - any other views? i have no personal bias or vested interest - just curious as to why it is not mentioned much - it is CE approved i believe and quite a flexible unit.
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Old 6th September 2005, 08:33   #7 (permalink)
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Ref the reply posted about the Voyager - any other views? i have no personal bias or vested interest - just curious as to why it is not mentioned much - it is CE approved i believe and quite a flexible unit.


It is NOT CE approved! Beside the BC!
It has to be flexible because it is not complete.

Andrew had a good question: where are the O2 sensors? Everywhere but not on the unit! Beside the Dräger Control of course, which has just one o2 sensor.
I don't think we all need such unsafe rubbish on the market (my own opinion).
One point is a DIY made for your special purposes another point is a DIY made to be sold.

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Voyager information

To all interested:

I noticed a few users have questions about the VOYAGER rebreather, in particular about the 'oxygen sensors location'. Within the next two weeks, I will post an extremely interesting article about the VOYAGER unit - how it works and why electronic-CCR are unnecessary.

The article will also include some beak-through information about 'Underwater oxygen metabolic consumption and the diver'. This will really be worth reading.

Please be patient.

PS. The VOYAGER rebreather is fully CE Approved

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Old 9th September 2005, 01:39   #9 (permalink)
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To all interested:

I noticed a few users have questions about the VOYAGER rebreather, in particular about the 'oxygen sensors location'. Within the next two weeks, I will post an extremely interesting article about the VOYAGER unit - how it works and why electronic-CCR are unnecessary.

The article will also include some beak-through information about 'Underwater oxygen metabolic consumption and the diver'. This will really be worth reading.

Please be patient.

PS. The VOYAGER rebreather is fully CE Approved

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I'm sure I'm not alone in looking forward to your "break-through information about 'Underwater oxygen metabolic consumption and the diver". Would you mind giving a quick summary of the new information that isn't known by divers currently using KISS CCR for example? Isn't this a manual unit with a needle valve and user suppled po2 monitoring?
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My apologies !! as i said - a great site. shame i wasn't that great at following all the threads to the end. which i have now made the time to do. thank you. very excited about the SK now !!
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Ref the reply posted about the Voyager - any other views? i have no personal bias or vested interest - just curious as to why it is not mentioned much - it is CE approved i believe and quite a flexible unit.


Steve,

Welcome aboard Rebreather World. We've got rebreather pilots of all types and stripes, including, it seems, the Voyager.

We welcome them all, and we are pleased that everyone is very friendly, and willing to share information. It is making this the best resource that Rebreather divers have ever had!!

Just as a suggestion, your type selection is a bit overpowering. I reset your type to "System" and the size to "2" which seems to be a pretty good compromise in size and readability.

Again, welcome aboard, and keep us up to date on your progress!

Cheers!

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