Which Rebreather...

bambang · 15th March 2008, 12:03

Great list! With the weakening of USD against Sterling/Euro, it would be cheaper for Europeans nowdays to purchase US made CCR nowdays.

O2ptima FX and Meg is cheaper than Evolution, that is interesting...

***caveseeker7*** · 15th March 2008, 12:54

Nice job on the Rebreather specs.

- Prism should be PRISM Topaz (and Revo II should be rEvo II

)
- PRISM comes with 3 ltr alu tanks stock
- Only one handset (the analog gauge, independent from the HUD)
- Stock configuration also includes BCD, inflator-integrated 2nd stage for bailout
- cowling is optional
- Production, marketing and sales of PRISM (2) will be transfered to Hollis

jlovold · 15th March 2008, 16:44

Nice list!

BTW, Pelagian should be 5800$

Also, you should include travelweight (without tanks and sorb), as that usually means more to people than what it weighs when you are going to jump in the water...

Abbo · 15th March 2008, 23:47

Great work: a grid of this sort has been much needed.

Two requests to administrators:
Could "Which rebreather" threads be put into a seperate forum category to make it easier for newcomers to search similar threads? The same questions come up time and again, causing the answers to be sometimes a little testy. Questions asking for advice on how to chose a rebreather for a first time buyer have got to be the most common question on this site by a nautical mile.

Ideally, this grid comparing different rebreathers could be turned into a kind of Wiki, with a number of people working on it and re-posting it to produce a consensus grid showing a comparison between different rebreathers. It wouldn't be just for first-time buyers: wouldn't it be great if there were a place in Rebreather World you knew you could go to get those hard-to find numbers like WOB comparisons?

jo_c · 17th March 2008, 10:00

OK, back at work so I've had time to update the sheet

With regards to weights etc - All the information on the sheets has been extracted directly from the manufacturers websites. Where the information hasn't been available, people who own the units have provided the missing data. Most manufacturers only provide the ready to dive weight.

The rough £'s price will obviously change depending on the current exchange rate. I think I used approx 1.9 USD to £1

Shawn · 17th March 2008, 22:22

Jo,

This is a great post! I'm also a meg diver and a huge suporter of the unit. I took my class from Leon Scamahorn in November 07. one of the things that stuck with me most is the scrubber duration;

1.3 - 1.6 VO2 (variable not constant)
Heart rate of 60% or age -220x60%= BPM
68 f loop temp
36 f water temp

just some cool to know stuff I got from the man himself. I would like to know what all of the other scrubbers are rated on / at.

sunnyboy · 18th March 2008, 14:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by jo_c)

OK, back at work so I've had time to update the sheet

With regards to weights etc - All the information on the sheets has been extracted directly from the manufacturers websites. Where the information hasn't been available, people who own the units have provided the missing data. Most manufacturers only provide the ready to dive weight.

The rough £'s price will obviously change depending on the current exchange rate. I think I used approx 1.9 USD to £1

The PRISM data is still incorrect.

-S

Dutchy · 18th March 2008, 17:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by jo_c)

Hi
I produced this for a friend in the UK who wanted to know what rebreathers were out there. I posted on another forum and decided I may as well post it here too.
Bear in mind I'm biased (Meg rules!

). The idea behind this, is it's a starting point to researching Rebreather's.
I'm happy to change any missing/incorrect info.

Rebreather

seems to me it is an extremely fair comparison comming from a man that claims to be biased.. chapeau!!!

jo_c · 18th March 2008, 18:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy)

seems to me it is an extremely fair comparison comming from a man that claims to be biased.. chapeau!!!

ahem... woman

It's been refined a little since the first version in an attempt to be less biased

mathias · 18th March 2008, 18:49

Great work, thx. Have some green !

15th March 2008, 12:03	#11 (permalink)
bambang New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 42	Re: Which Rebreather... Great list! With the weakening of USD against Sterling/Euro, it would be cheaper for Europeans nowdays to purchase US made CCR nowdays. O2ptima FX and Meg is cheaper than Evolution, that is interesting...
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15th March 2008, 12:54	#12 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,281	Re: Nice job on the Rebreather specs. - Prism should be PRISM Topaz (and Revo II should be rEvo II ) - PRISM comes with 3 ltr alu tanks stock - Only one handset (the analog gauge, independent from the HUD) - Stock configuration also includes BCD, inflator-integrated 2nd stage for bailout - cowling is optional - Production, marketing and sales of PRISM (2) will be transfered to Hollis __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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15th March 2008, 16:44	#13 (permalink)
jlovold New Member Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 22	Re: Which Rebreather... Nice list! BTW, Pelagian should be 5800$ Also, you should include travelweight (without tanks and sorb), as that usually means more to people than what it weighs when you are going to jump in the water...
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15th March 2008, 23:47	#14 (permalink)
Abbo Going down on Meg Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo Posts: 375	Re: Which Rebreather... Great work: a grid of this sort has been much needed. Two requests to administrators: Could "Which rebreather" threads be put into a seperate forum category to make it easier for newcomers to search similar threads? The same questions come up time and again, causing the answers to be sometimes a little testy. Questions asking for advice on how to chose a rebreather for a first time buyer have got to be the most common question on this site by a nautical mile. Ideally, this grid comparing different rebreathers could be turned into a kind of Wiki, with a number of people working on it and re-posting it to produce a consensus grid showing a comparison between different rebreathers. It wouldn't be just for first-time buyers: wouldn't it be great if there were a place in Rebreather World you knew you could go to get those hard-to find numbers like WOB comparisons?
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17th March 2008, 10:00	#15 (permalink)
jo_c Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 128	Re: Which Rebreather... OK, back at work so I've had time to update the sheet With regards to weights etc - All the information on the sheets has been extracted directly from the manufacturers websites. Where the information hasn't been available, people who own the units have provided the missing data. Most manufacturers only provide the ready to dive weight. The rough £'s price will obviously change depending on the current exchange rate. I think I used approx 1.9 USD to £1
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17th March 2008, 22:22	#16 (permalink)
Shawn New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 94	Re: Which Rebreather... Jo, This is a great post! I'm also a meg diver and a huge suporter of the unit. I took my class from Leon Scamahorn in November 07. one of the things that stuck with me most is the scrubber duration; 1.3 - 1.6 VO2 (variable not constant) Heart rate of 60% or age -220x60%= BPM 68 f loop temp 36 f water temp just some cool to know stuff I got from the man himself. I would like to know what all of the other scrubbers are rated on / at. __________________ WWW.DiveOne.net
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18th March 2008, 14:48	#17 (permalink)
sunnyboy New Member Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ladysmith, B.C. Canada Posts: 86	Re: Which Rebreather... Quote: (Originally Posted by jo_c) OK, back at work so I've had time to update the sheet With regards to weights etc - All the information on the sheets has been extracted directly from the manufacturers websites. Where the information hasn't been available, people who own the units have provided the missing data. Most manufacturers only provide the ready to dive weight. The rough £'s price will obviously change depending on the current exchange rate. I think I used approx 1.9 USD to £1 The PRISM data is still incorrect. -S
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18th March 2008, 17:21	#18 (permalink)
Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 693	Re: Which Rebreather... Quote: (Originally Posted by jo_c) Hi I produced this for a friend in the UK who wanted to know what rebreathers were out there. I posted on another forum and decided I may as well post it here too. Bear in mind I'm biased (Meg rules! ). The idea behind this, is it's a starting point to researching Rebreather's. I'm happy to change any missing/incorrect info. Rebreather seems to me it is an extremely fair comparison comming from a man that claims to be biased.. chapeau!!! __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007
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18th March 2008, 18:15	#19 (permalink)
jo_c Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 128	Re: Which Rebreather... Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy) seems to me it is an extremely fair comparison comming from a man that claims to be biased.. chapeau!!! ahem... woman It's been refined a little since the first version in an attempt to be less biased
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18th March 2008, 18:49	#20 (permalink)
mathias Ouroboros #31 Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic MK 15.X Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Switzerland - Murten Posts: 175	Re: Which Rebreather... Great work, thx. Have some green ! __________________ Our dreams are other people's nightmares ;-) Plus près du fond, plus loin des cons !
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