Help, I have been Megged...

jdicediver · 19th January 2007, 15:26

Ordered my Meg yesterday. With a COPIS head, in anticipation of the new APECS III head in 6 months? Training to be obtained from the Master himself, Mid April.

**jkromelow** · 19th January 2007, 15:54

What are the biggest features of the APECS III? I am thinking of placing an order for a Meg in the next 2 weeks...major or minor differences for a first time Meg owner? Maybe I should wait?

**Bobmac** · 19th January 2007, 16:52

Congratulations on your order and welcome to the family.

Explorer · 19th January 2007, 17:19

Congrads.

Alberta needs more divers rebreather divers for sure. Looking forward to meeting you.

quickean · 19th January 2007, 18:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by jdicediver)

Ordered my Meg yesterday. With a COPIS head, in anticipation of the new APECS III head in 6 months? Training to be obtained from the Master himself, Mid April.

I think I'm going to be following suit with the same plan in the next couple of weeks.

delidiver · 19th January 2007, 21:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkromelow)

What are the biggest features of the APECS III? I am thinking of placing an order for a Meg in the next 2 weeks...major or minor differences for a first time Meg owner? Maybe I should wait?

The major difference is that the Apex III will be a full decompression computer like the HH or Shearwater. My understanding is that it will not have RGBM in it. The Apex II monitors the system itself (sensors and solenoid,etc...) but offers no time, depth, deco info etc...
If you wait it will most likely be several months away, and even then do you want the first generation????
The Apex II Meg is a rock-solid unit...why wait???

Louis
adventurescubastore.com

**jkromelow** · 20th January 2007, 00:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by delidiver)

The major difference is that the Apex III will be a full decompression computer like the HH or Shearwater. My understanding is that it will not have RGBM in it. The Apex II monitors the system itself (sensors and solenoid,etc...) but offers no time, depth, deco info etc...
If you wait it will most likely be several months away, and even then do you want the first generation????
The Apex II Meg is a rock-solid unit...why wait???

Thanks for that info. Your point about 1stG anything is quite right. In any case, I don't think I want a decompression computer built into my rig. My VR3's have always worked well for me - old habits. I like to diversify my points of failure.

quickean · 20th January 2007, 00:30

It is my understanding that the Apecs 3 will be built on the Gradient Factor model - thought I read that in another thread.
I couldn't agree more about not buying first generation stuff right after it comes out, but I would not hesitate to buy the Apecs 3 when it hits the market. I don't think Leon is in the habit of releasing a buggy product. It will be released when it is ready.

scubagrunt · 20th January 2007, 12:12

why not get a copis to start and then get the apecs III head when it is on the market. that way you have two heads in case of a failure your dive trip can continue (now i'm not saying the head will fail but is it always nice to have a spare

). also starting on a mCCR is often a good choice and can get you in the water now, vs. waiting for the apecs III.
just my thoughts.
mel
Justin feel free to email me if you want any info on the COPIS and/or APECS megs
scubagrunt@hotmail.com

Outlaw · 28th January 2007, 08:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by delidiver)

The major difference is that the Apex III will be a full decompression computer like the HH or Shearwater. My understanding is that it will not have RGBM in it. The Apex II monitors the system itself (sensors and solenoid,etc...) but offers no time, depth, deco info etc...

If you wait it will most likely be several months away, and even then do you want the first generation????

The Apex II Meg is a rock-solid unit...why wait???

Louis

adventurescubastore.com

i think you are very very right on this one Louis.

I am one of those who really want something when it first comes out, but when it comes to diving, i wait for some time to hear reviews from others. There is no security in the world whatsoever i guess, no matter how many promises you might be given, that things will work fine. As far as the Apex II comment, you are right again. It rocks, so why change something that is really working to something you are going to be testing. I am not saying that this is not a good thing. i am saying that i would not be the first to buy.

So come on boys, give us some reviews once you have the new toys....

Cheers,

Spyros

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jdicediver John Harcus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 276	Help, I have been Megged... Ordered my Meg yesterday. With a COPIS head, in anticipation of the new APECS III head in 6 months? Training to be obtained from the Master himself, Mid April.
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19th January 2007, 15:54	#2 (permalink)
jkromelow PreNarked Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 59	Re: Help, I have been Megged... What are the biggest features of the APECS III? I am thinking of placing an order for a Meg in the next 2 weeks...major or minor differences for a first time Meg owner? Maybe I should wait? __________________ Justin Kromelow TDI Instructor PADI MSDT
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19th January 2007, 16:52	#3 (permalink)
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19th January 2007, 17:19	#4 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 784	Re: Help, I have been Megged... Congrads. Alberta needs more divers rebreather divers for sure. Looking forward to meeting you. __________________ KONA COFFEE
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19th January 2007, 18:26	#5 (permalink)
quickean RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 140	Re: Help, I have been Megged... Quote: (Originally Posted by jdicediver) Ordered my Meg yesterday. With a COPIS head, in anticipation of the new APECS III head in 6 months? Training to be obtained from the Master himself, Mid April. I think I'm going to be following suit with the same plan in the next couple of weeks.
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19th January 2007, 21:51	#6 (permalink)
delidiver DELIDIVER Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Merion, PA USA Posts: 47	Re: Help, I have been Megged... Quote: (Originally Posted by jkromelow) What are the biggest features of the APECS III? I am thinking of placing an order for a Meg in the next 2 weeks...major or minor differences for a first time Meg owner? Maybe I should wait? The major difference is that the Apex III will be a full decompression computer like the HH or Shearwater. My understanding is that it will not have RGBM in it. The Apex II monitors the system itself (sensors and solenoid,etc...) but offers no time, depth, deco info etc... If you wait it will most likely be several months away, and even then do you want the first generation???? The Apex II Meg is a rock-solid unit...why wait??? Louis adventurescubastore.com __________________ Dive Safe & Dive Often!
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20th January 2007, 00:07	#7 (permalink)
jkromelow PreNarked Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA, USA Posts: 59	Re: Help, I have been Megged... Quote: (Originally Posted by delidiver) The major difference is that the Apex III will be a full decompression computer like the HH or Shearwater. My understanding is that it will not have RGBM in it. The Apex II monitors the system itself (sensors and solenoid,etc...) but offers no time, depth, deco info etc... If you wait it will most likely be several months away, and even then do you want the first generation???? The Apex II Meg is a rock-solid unit...why wait??? Thanks for that info. Your point about 1stG anything is quite right. In any case, I don't think I want a decompression computer built into my rig. My VR3's have always worked well for me - old habits. I like to diversify my points of failure. __________________ Justin Kromelow TDI Instructor PADI MSDT
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20th January 2007, 00:30	#8 (permalink)
quickean RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 140	Re: Help, I have been Megged... It is my understanding that the Apecs 3 will be built on the Gradient Factor model - thought I read that in another thread. I couldn't agree more about not buying first generation stuff right after it comes out, but I would not hesitate to buy the Apecs 3 when it hits the market. I don't think Leon is in the habit of releasing a buggy product. It will be released when it is ready.
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20th January 2007, 12:12	#9 (permalink)
scubagrunt CCR Diva Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 441	Re: Help, I have been Megged... why not get a copis to start and then get the apecs III head when it is on the market. that way you have two heads in case of a failure your dive trip can continue (now i'm not saying the head will fail but is it always nice to have a spare ). also starting on a mCCR is often a good choice and can get you in the water now, vs. waiting for the apecs III. just my thoughts. mel Justin feel free to email me if you want any info on the COPIS and/or APECS megs scubagrunt@hotmail.com __________________ "No good deed goes unpunished!" www.silentscuba.com Last edited by scubagrunt : 20th January 2007 at 12:15.
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28th January 2007, 08:38	#10 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 685	Re: Help, I have been Megged... Quote: (Originally Posted by delidiver) The major difference is that the Apex III will be a full decompression computer like the HH or Shearwater. My understanding is that it will not have RGBM in it. The Apex II monitors the system itself (sensors and solenoid,etc...) but offers no time, depth, deco info etc... If you wait it will most likely be several months away, and even then do you want the first generation???? The Apex II Meg is a rock-solid unit...why wait??? Louis adventurescubastore.com i think you are very very right on this one Louis. I am one of those who really want something when it first comes out, but when it comes to diving, i wait for some time to hear reviews from others. There is no security in the world whatsoever i guess, no matter how many promises you might be given, that things will work fine. As far as the Apex II comment, you are right again. It rocks, so why change something that is really working to something you are going to be testing. I am not saying that this is not a good thing. i am saying that i would not be the first to buy. So come on boys, give us some reviews once you have the new toys.... Cheers, Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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