Which Option would you order?

LakeLover · 28th December 2006, 10:29

I am getting ready to order a Meg, and of course now I have to decide on options. This is what I intend on ordering, what would you choose or recommend?

Meg loaded (does this include HUD and ADV?)
Neoprene CL's
Possibly HH electronics
standard scrubber
deluxe harness
steel plate

Can anyone make additional recommendations?

Benthic · 28th December 2006, 15:10

Although they are still listed as 'options' on the price list, I'm 99% sure that the loaded Meg includes the ADV and the HUD.

I'm a big fan of the neoprene lungs. I was cautioned that they were much more fragile than the cordura ones, but I haven't noticed much of a problem. I've never dove with the courduras though, so what do I know?

The HH electronics are made by a different company, so if you go that route you're talking about two separate orders there. However, you may get some credit from ISC if you tell them up front that this is your plan and allow them to ship you a Meg with no APECS electronics. I don't know, but that would certainly be a question worth asking.

I believe that the 'standard' scrubber is the only option shipping at this time. The CIS and radial are both still in the pre-production phase.

The only other thing I can think of that you should consider that I didn't see on your list is the Diluent Isolator Valve (DIV). It's an inexpensive option and it will allow you to 'turn off' the ADV once you reach a stable depth. These same valves are available from other sources, but it's just as easy to get one from ISC.

Brian

LakeLover · 28th December 2006, 16:01

Brian,

Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate it. Do you know which 1st stages the Meg ships with now?

Shawn

**wedivebc** · 28th December 2006, 17:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by LakeLover)

Brian,

Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate it. Do you know which 1st stages the Meg ships with now?

Shawn

I believe DS4s. I will know tonight when my buddy shows up with his new one.
I also hear tiger gear is standard equipment (can someone confirm this rumor)

Benthic · 29th December 2006, 02:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc)

I believe DS4s. I will know tonight when my buddy shows up with his new one.
I also hear tiger gear is standard equipment (can someone confirm this rumor)

Tiger Gear was standard when I ordered my Meg last spring. I ordered w/out 1st stages though, so I can't comment on that.

Brian

**Scott** · 29th December 2006, 03:13

Mine is coming with DS4's.. but its also the COPIS version.. which might make a difference.. she ships the 15th of January... should be on my door step on the 22nd.. to fly to Mexico on the 25th =) ... thats the best news I've gotten in the last few days.. *sigh*... Anyway.... take care and have fun with your new baby when you order/receive her..

-Scott

RonMicjan · 29th December 2006, 03:14

tiger gear is not standard, 220 extra if i recall. ADV and HUD are standard now, as is the mixed gas add valve. In fact, if one were to drop me a line on my email, i could forward the official meg price list. ron@tmishop.com

I highly suggest using the apecs electronics over the HH, strap on a VR3 and go diving. I also recommend a pair of under counterlung D rings a deluxe spares kit and the head only calibration kit. Current regs are scubapro, but apeks will be used as soon as the scuba pro's run out. Copis's units are getting the DS4's, at least on the O2 side. The scuba pro regs require shims to change IP and the copis requires the ability to adjust IP during setup.

apecs meg pricing and description here

ISC OPTIONS LIST AND PRICE SHEET
Retail OCTOBER 2006
The Megalodon CCR systems may be purchased from ISC in a variety of ways, to suit the customer’s needs and equipment requirements. The following are the options and prices the customer may select based on the above. All prices in US dollars and are subject to change.
The following comes with the listed system:
1. Megalodon complete:1000 Denier Cordura counter lungs, breathing hose assembly, 5.5lb axial scrubber canister, APECS electronics, stainless steel single tank adapter, non anodized Aluminum back plate w/Hogarth harness/crotch strap, LP hoses,19 cuft/2.6 liter, 3 AL 3000 PSI/207 BAR cylinders, pro valves, HP gauges (your choice of PSI or BAR), 1st.stages, Auto Demand valve (ADV, Heads up display (HUD), Mixed gas bypass(MGB)w/spare hose, Dust caps, Hat, Spare Cylinder stickers, Helmet logo sticker, MSRP $8,153.00
Note: The Meg does not come with any cylinder mounting systems unless requested.
Note 2: Cylinders and valves will not be sold to European countries that have different cylinder requirements. Cylinders and valves meet US and Canadian DOT specifications.

**Padipro** · 29th December 2006, 04:58

I'm placing my order with ISC on the 5th and will be getting the complete Meg with the DIV, Deluxe O ring kit, TigerGear tank mounts and Head only cal kit. I'm ordering 20 cuft steel tanks from another shop as they are cheaper through them then ISC and I'm thinking about using the Golam Gear side mount for bail out rather then the standard harness mount. Anyone have any comments on that?

Also anyone know the latest lead time? I talked to ISC about a month ago and they told me then that it was about a month to dilevery but I've also heard from others on Rebreather World that the lead time was 3 months.

***jradomski*** · 29th December 2006, 05:14

The Neoprene and cordura lungs definately breathe different.. The neoprene lungs create a "bubble" near the T pieces and stretch..

My original neoprene lungs leaked after a month and required patches with aquaseal, my replacement ones so far have not had a leak although I have had to repair the mounting of the webbing to the counter lungs.. I make sure I always travel with aquaseal and cotol..

If you abuse your gear, I would go with the cordura lungs but neoprene ones are more confortable..

If you do create damage the cordura lungs they probably are not as easy to permanently patch as the neoprene ones but are easier to replace things like the manual adds and overpressure valves..

The only real negative I can say about the neoprene lungs is that if you dont clean/dry them right away, they develop a smell thats a bit difficult to get rid of..

From personal preference I would recommend pressure guages in Bar, It makes doing gas calculations (like figuring your oxygen consumption on the fly) MUCH easier.. With 3l cylinders you will use about 10 bar per 30 minutes (once you get things down).. Oxygen consumption in LPM can be figured in your head (and even when switching tank sizes) with bar guages, but with PSI guages its alot harder...

**wedivebc** · 29th December 2006, 05:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

tiger gear is not standard, 220 extra if i recall.

Well it should be

But seriously why isn't the calibration kit standard? Couldn't cost Leon too much to build.

28th December 2006, 10:29	#1 (permalink)
LakeLover New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern New York Posts: 71	Which Option would you order? I am getting ready to order a Meg, and of course now I have to decide on options. This is what I intend on ordering, what would you choose or recommend? Meg loaded (does this include HUD and ADV?) Neoprene CL's Possibly HH electronics standard scrubber deluxe harness steel plate Can anyone make additional recommendations?
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28th December 2006, 15:10	#2 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 224	Re: Which Option would you order? Although they are still listed as 'options' on the price list, I'm 99% sure that the loaded Meg includes the ADV and the HUD. I'm a big fan of the neoprene lungs. I was cautioned that they were much more fragile than the cordura ones, but I haven't noticed much of a problem. I've never dove with the courduras though, so what do I know? The HH electronics are made by a different company, so if you go that route you're talking about two separate orders there. However, you may get some credit from ISC if you tell them up front that this is your plan and allow them to ship you a Meg with no APECS electronics. I don't know, but that would certainly be a question worth asking. I believe that the 'standard' scrubber is the only option shipping at this time. The CIS and radial are both still in the pre-production phase. The only other thing I can think of that you should consider that I didn't see on your list is the Diluent Isolator Valve (DIV). It's an inexpensive option and it will allow you to 'turn off' the ADV once you reach a stable depth. These same valves are available from other sources, but it's just as easy to get one from ISC. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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28th December 2006, 16:01	#3 (permalink)
LakeLover New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern New York Posts: 71	Re: Which Option would you order? Brian, Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate it. Do you know which 1st stages the Meg ships with now? Shawn
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28th December 2006, 17:54	#4 (permalink)
wedivebc Dave Tomblin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,444	Re: Which Option would you order? Quote: (Originally Posted by LakeLover) Brian, Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate it. Do you know which 1st stages the Meg ships with now? Shawn I believe DS4s. I will know tonight when my buddy shows up with his new one. I also hear tiger gear is standard equipment (can someone confirm this rumor) __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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29th December 2006, 02:57	#5 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 224	Re: Which Option would you order? Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc) I believe DS4s. I will know tonight when my buddy shows up with his new one. I also hear tiger gear is standard equipment (can someone confirm this rumor) Tiger Gear was standard when I ordered my Meg last spring. I ordered w/out 1st stages though, so I can't comment on that. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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29th December 2006, 03:13	#6 (permalink)
Scott Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mendota, Virginia Posts: 171	Re: Which Option would you order? Mine is coming with DS4's.. but its also the COPIS version.. which might make a difference.. she ships the 15th of January... should be on my door step on the 22nd.. to fly to Mexico on the 25th =) ... thats the best news I've gotten in the last few days.. sigh... Anyway.... take care and have fun with your new baby when you order/receive her.. -Scott
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29th December 2006, 03:14	#7 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,100	Re: Which Option would you order? tiger gear is not standard, 220 extra if i recall. ADV and HUD are standard now, as is the mixed gas add valve. In fact, if one were to drop me a line on my email, i could forward the official meg price list. ron@tmishop.com I highly suggest using the apecs electronics over the HH, strap on a VR3 and go diving. I also recommend a pair of under counterlung D rings a deluxe spares kit and the head only calibration kit. Current regs are scubapro, but apeks will be used as soon as the scuba pro's run out. Copis's units are getting the DS4's, at least on the O2 side. The scuba pro regs require shims to change IP and the copis requires the ability to adjust IP during setup. apecs meg pricing and description here ISC OPTIONS LIST AND PRICE SHEET Retail OCTOBER 2006 The Megalodon CCR systems may be purchased from ISC in a variety of ways, to suit the customer’s needs and equipment requirements. The following are the options and prices the customer may select based on the above. All prices in US dollars and are subject to change. The following comes with the listed system: 1. Megalodon complete:1000 Denier Cordura counter lungs, breathing hose assembly, 5.5lb axial scrubber canister, APECS electronics, stainless steel single tank adapter, non anodized Aluminum back plate w/Hogarth harness/crotch strap, LP hoses,19 cuft/2.6 liter, 3 AL 3000 PSI/207 BAR cylinders, pro valves, HP gauges (your choice of PSI or BAR), 1st.stages, Auto Demand valve (ADV, Heads up display (HUD), Mixed gas bypass(MGB)w/spare hose, Dust caps, Hat, Spare Cylinder stickers, Helmet logo sticker, MSRP $8,153.00 Note: The Meg does not come with any cylinder mounting systems unless requested. Note 2: Cylinders and valves will not be sold to European countries that have different cylinder requirements. Cylinders and valves meet US and Canadian DOT specifications. __________________ Marine rescue, towing and salvage. Interfering with natural selection since 1983. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc. www.seatowpdx.com The Summer Job Last edited by RonMicjan : 29th December 2006 at 03:17.
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29th December 2006, 04:58	#8 (permalink)
Padipro Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 232	Re: Which Option would you order? I'm placing my order with ISC on the 5th and will be getting the complete Meg with the DIV, Deluxe O ring kit, TigerGear tank mounts and Head only cal kit. I'm ordering 20 cuft steel tanks from another shop as they are cheaper through them then ISC and I'm thinking about using the Golam Gear side mount for bail out rather then the standard harness mount. Anyone have any comments on that? Also anyone know the latest lead time? I talked to ISC about a month ago and they told me then that it was about a month to dilevery but I've also heard from others on Rebreather World that the lead time was 3 months. __________________ Scott IANTD Megalodon IANTD Trimix TDI Adv Nitrox and Deco PADI MSDT It could be that the sole purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others. Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you could survive the odds beating you.
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29th December 2006, 05:14	#9 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,004	Re: Which Option would you order? The Neoprene and cordura lungs definately breathe different.. The neoprene lungs create a "bubble" near the T pieces and stretch.. My original neoprene lungs leaked after a month and required patches with aquaseal, my replacement ones so far have not had a leak although I have had to repair the mounting of the webbing to the counter lungs.. I make sure I always travel with aquaseal and cotol.. If you abuse your gear, I would go with the cordura lungs but neoprene ones are more confortable.. If you do create damage the cordura lungs they probably are not as easy to permanently patch as the neoprene ones but are easier to replace things like the manual adds and overpressure valves.. The only real negative I can say about the neoprene lungs is that if you dont clean/dry them right away, they develop a smell thats a bit difficult to get rid of.. From personal preference I would recommend pressure guages in Bar, It makes doing gas calculations (like figuring your oxygen consumption on the fly) MUCH easier.. With 3l cylinders you will use about 10 bar per 30 minutes (once you get things down).. Oxygen consumption in LPM can be figured in your head (and even when switching tank sizes) with bar guages, but with PSI guages its alot harder... __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated. Last edited by jradomski : 29th December 2006 at 05:20.
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29th December 2006, 05:17	#10 (permalink)
wedivebc Dave Tomblin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,444	Re: Which Option would you order? Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) tiger gear is not standard, 220 extra if i recall. Well it should be But seriously why isn't the calibration kit standard? Couldn't cost Leon too much to build. __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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