Meg Specs

Silent · 18th June 2005, 15:59

Hi all,

I'm looking to place an order with Leon for a Meg but have a few of questions before I get my plastic out.

What are the first stages that Leon supplies? I've seen mention somewhere about them being Scubapros? If so what model are they? Would be handy as I'm Scubapro Tech trained...

The cylinder mount system that comes as standard, is it that much of a pain to remove/replace cylinders with it? Does it make Tiger Mounts/G-Snaps a real necessity for tool-less removal/convenience?

Is there any other additional kit that needs to be added to the Meg package for it to then be 'ready to dive' (Other than a wing of course

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The last thing I want is to find out I've left something off my shopping/budget list

I've already selected the following add-ons which I've seen here on the forum are the normal additions: ADV, Dil Iso Valve, Mixed Gas Man Bypass, oh and of course Shearwater elecs with HUD!

Okay I think that's it for the hardware side.

I'll post my question on Training in the Training forum just so I don't upset anyone

Cheers in advance for your help & comments guys,

Neil

***Decodiver*** · 18th June 2005, 16:05

Hi Neil,

The first stages are Scubapros, but i don't have mine to hand for the exact model at present. You can fit Poseidon Extremes if you like.

If you are bringing your Meg back to the UK I would recommend that you source your cylinders here, no burst disks here!!

Tiger gear is very good IMHO and avoids the ali/steel problems you may encounter when fitting G-snaps.

Apart from that you seem to have it squared away spec wise. You won't regret your decision.

Take care,

Dave Cooper.

**trob09** · 18th June 2005, 16:23

Tiger Gear or G-snaps are preferred to the standard mount. If you have a few sets of cylinders or need to refil between dives, the tool-free change is a requirement as far as I am concerned. I prefer the g-snaps to tiger gear myself, but they are both workable options.

The other mod that I have done that improves the diveability off of boats is to add a cylinder boot (OMS for 7" steel tanks) with a spacer inside (PVC drainage pipe fitting) to lengthen the main cannister a 3-4 inches (7 - 10cm for those who don't habla imperial measures...). It makes donning and doffing the unit on a rocking boat much easier.

Otherwise, it looks like you've got it sussed-out.

Tim

***schford*** · 18th June 2005, 18:28

Hey Tim,

you got a picture with the boot on - I like the idea of making the can sit up a bit higher.

Stuart

**trob09** · 18th June 2005, 18:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Hey Tim,

you got a picture with the boot on - I like the idea of making the can sit up a bit higher.

Stuart

Stuart,

I'm (still!) traveling on business. I get home tomorrow. I snap a few photos and post then.

Tim

Pelagian · 19th June 2005, 04:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by Silent)

Hi all,

What are the first stages that Leon supplies? I've seen mention somewhere about them being Scubapros? If so what model are they? Would be handy as I'm Scubapro Tech trained...

Neil

Hey Neil

The standard 1st stages that Leon offers are SCUBAPRO MK 2+ Dins. But you can put on any 1st stages you like.

The MK 2's are dead simple to service and can take a real beating.

I've used MK 25's on mine, just because I found the hose routings a little easier and SCUBAPRO manufactures Oxygen compatible HP seats for it but not for the MK 2 and having survived one OX fire already I'm kinda anal about that. But you don't need that kinda performance on a rebreather 1st stage that your not drawing on directly.

Cheers

Seb

Silent · 19th June 2005, 10:52

Cheers for the info Seb,

That's good news as I totally agree with you on the MK2's. The dive school I was working at used them and I had less trouble with them than MK16's. As for servicing they are an absolute doddle to do, making field stripping possible.

But the MK2's can be a real pain for hose routing due to the lack of a swivelling LP barrel.

Likewise the MK20/25's I've found are also a great 1st stage that are easily stripped & serviced but hose routing is so much easier.

Think I'll end up using my MK25's from my twinset with the O2 service kit as I also don't much like the idea of having high pressure O2 in contact with non O2 service parts.

Neil

Silent · 25th June 2005, 17:43

Hi all,

I have another question regarding the 1st stages on the Meg.

If I opt for the standard Scubapro MK2's how are they made O2 compatible as Scubapro do not supply an O2 service kit for them?

I must admit to not being that confident in using them on the O2 side without being sure they won't try and burn the Meg and anything else (boat!) to cinders.

Are the Poseidons that are supplied as an option O2 cleaned?

Thanks,

Neil

***schford*** · 25th June 2005, 17:55

Hi mate,

I talk my own Poseidons out and my mate Nige (underpressure) O2 cleaned them before I went out for me...

In terms of how they clean them at the factory Ron Micjan might know, failing that give Steve or Leon a bell.

Stuart

***caveseeker7*** · 25th June 2005, 18:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Silent)

If I opt for the standard Scubapro MK2's how are they made O2 compatible as Scubapro do not supply an O2 service kit for them?

Neil, the PRISM also comes with Scubapro MK2 first stages and SMI cleans one for oxygen service.

18th June 2005, 15:59	#1 (permalink)
Silent Staying Silent! Mostly... Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northants, UK Posts: 383	Meg Specs Hi all, I'm looking to place an order with Leon for a Meg but have a few of questions before I get my plastic out. What are the first stages that Leon supplies? I've seen mention somewhere about them being Scubapros? If so what model are they? Would be handy as I'm Scubapro Tech trained... The cylinder mount system that comes as standard, is it that much of a pain to remove/replace cylinders with it? Does it make Tiger Mounts/G-Snaps a real necessity for tool-less removal/convenience? Is there any other additional kit that needs to be added to the Meg package for it to then be 'ready to dive' (Other than a wing of course ). The last thing I want is to find out I've left something off my shopping/budget list I've already selected the following add-ons which I've seen here on the forum are the normal additions: ADV, Dil Iso Valve, Mixed Gas Man Bypass, oh and of course Shearwater elecs with HUD! Okay I think that's it for the hardware side. I'll post my question on Training in the Training forum just so I don't upset anyone Cheers in advance for your help & comments guys, Neil __________________ On the dark side everyone can hear you scream......
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18th June 2005, 16:05	#2 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Hi Neil, The first stages are Scubapros, but i don't have mine to hand for the exact model at present. You can fit Poseidon Extremes if you like. If you are bringing your Meg back to the UK I would recommend that you source your cylinders here, no burst disks here!! Tiger gear is very good IMHO and avoids the ali/steel problems you may encounter when fitting G-snaps. Apart from that you seem to have it squared away spec wise. You won't regret your decision. Take care, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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18th June 2005, 16:23	#3 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 701	Tiger Gear or G-snaps are preferred to the standard mount. If you have a few sets of cylinders or need to refil between dives, the tool-free change is a requirement as far as I am concerned. I prefer the g-snaps to tiger gear myself, but they are both workable options. The other mod that I have done that improves the diveability off of boats is to add a cylinder boot (OMS for 7" steel tanks) with a spacer inside (PVC drainage pipe fitting) to lengthen the main cannister a 3-4 inches (7 - 10cm for those who don't habla imperial measures...). It makes donning and doffing the unit on a rocking boat much easier. Otherwise, it looks like you've got it sussed-out. Tim
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18th June 2005, 18:28	#4 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Hey Tim, you got a picture with the boot on - I like the idea of making the can sit up a bit higher. Stuart
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18th June 2005, 18:30	#5 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 701	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Hey Tim, you got a picture with the boot on - I like the idea of making the can sit up a bit higher. Stuart Stuart, I'm (still!) traveling on business. I get home tomorrow. I snap a few photos and post then. Tim
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19th June 2005, 04:30	#6 (permalink)
Pelagian Multi-Circuit Meg Monkey! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Optima Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 310	Quote: (Originally Posted by Silent) Hi all, What are the first stages that Leon supplies? I've seen mention somewhere about them being Scubapros? If so what model are they? Would be handy as I'm Scubapro Tech trained... Neil Hey Neil The standard 1st stages that Leon offers are SCUBAPRO MK 2+ Dins. But you can put on any 1st stages you like. The MK 2's are dead simple to service and can take a real beating. I've used MK 25's on mine, just because I found the hose routings a little easier and SCUBAPRO manufactures Oxygen compatible HP seats for it but not for the MK 2 and having survived one OX fire already I'm kinda anal about that. But you don't need that kinda performance on a rebreather 1st stage that your not drawing on directly. Cheers Seb __________________ 'Because... I was Inverted!'
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19th June 2005, 10:52	#7 (permalink)
Silent Staying Silent! Mostly... Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northants, UK Posts: 383	Cheers for the info Seb, That's good news as I totally agree with you on the MK2's. The dive school I was working at used them and I had less trouble with them than MK16's. As for servicing they are an absolute doddle to do, making field stripping possible. But the MK2's can be a real pain for hose routing due to the lack of a swivelling LP barrel. Likewise the MK20/25's I've found are also a great 1st stage that are easily stripped & serviced but hose routing is so much easier. Think I'll end up using my MK25's from my twinset with the O2 service kit as I also don't much like the idea of having high pressure O2 in contact with non O2 service parts. Neil __________________ On the dark side everyone can hear you scream......
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25th June 2005, 17:43	#8 (permalink)
Silent Staying Silent! Mostly... Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northants, UK Posts: 383	1st Stage O2 Compatability Hi all, I have another question regarding the 1st stages on the Meg. If I opt for the standard Scubapro MK2's how are they made O2 compatible as Scubapro do not supply an O2 service kit for them? I must admit to not being that confident in using them on the O2 side without being sure they won't try and burn the Meg and anything else (boat!) to cinders. Are the Poseidons that are supplied as an option O2 cleaned? Thanks, Neil __________________ On the dark side everyone can hear you scream......
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25th June 2005, 17:55	#9 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Hi mate, I talk my own Poseidons out and my mate Nige (underpressure) O2 cleaned them before I went out for me... In terms of how they clean them at the factory Ron Micjan might know, failing that give Steve or Leon a bell. Stuart
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,556	Quote: (Originally Posted by Silent) If I opt for the standard Scubapro MK2's how are they made O2 compatible as Scubapro do not supply an O2 service kit for them? Neil, the PRISM also comes with Scubapro MK2 first stages and SMI cleans one for oxygen service. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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