COPIS v Kiss Classic

silent running · 13th December 2006, 12:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running)

Another option might be the Pelagian, an ECCR that has an adjustable passive add needle valve O2 addition and OTS CLs. It seems like a very sensible design. I seem to remember that it had BOV as standard equipment, so it would be a serious contender if it's really available... -Andy

Duh! I meant MCCR, posting too late. Sorry...

SINUS · 13th December 2006, 12:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Are there pictures on the Net showing the bottom view of the COPIS lid ? It wasn't in Ron's COPIS article.

I am interested in seeing where the orifice is located in the lid.

Hey phi,

How could you miss stefan's nice piccies?.

**Steve** · 13th December 2006, 12:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Are there pictures on the Net showing the bottom view of the COPIS lid ? It wasn't in Ron's COPIS article.

I am interested in seeing where the orifice is located in the lid.

It isn't located in the lid mate. It is in line between the reg and the QD on the top of the lid. You will shake your head when you see the way the O2 reg is modified

decoweenie · 13th December 2006, 12:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

It isn't located in the lid mate. It is in line between the reg and the QD on the top of the lid. You will shake your head when you see the way the O2 reg is modified

Huhmm, interesting... Any pic available from anywhere ?

Weilan, yes I did see Stefan's picture, but had forgotten all about it. Thanks.

silentscuba · 13th December 2006, 14:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by pattimegdiver)

Yes, ISC will be coming out with their HUD shortly. I am going to be one of the first ones requesting one as soon as they are available.

Mel has been Beta testing the COPIS HUD for some time now and it seems to work very well. We haven't heard when it will be released.

RonMicjan · 13th December 2006, 16:37

get your orders in now as they are being spooled up as we speak, I have orders in the que for 3 units for the course we are doing in playa del carmen starting january 26th. (got room for another diver, if anyone is interested)

the orifice was originally in the head, but for a possible leak situation (where the o ring popped or some such), I figured that in the hose was a much better place. also less likely to get salt water into it there and get plugged. It has a scintered filter in line just before it also. The white plastic barbed fitting you see in the pic is to attach a hose to the flow meter for predive testing.

decoweenie · 13th December 2006, 20:47

Ron,

What is the size of the orifice ?

Do you have any pic of the orifice installed on the connecting hose as you have mentioned ?

Just curious as I REALLY want one since I also miss diving my KISS units...

**diver1369** · 13th December 2006, 22:10

[quote=RonMicjan;83239]get your orders in now as they are being spooled up as we speak, I have orders in the que for 3 units for the course we are doing in playa del carmen starting january 26th. (got room for another diver, if anyone is interested)[quote]

Second the motion. I am one of three students in that COPIS class; its shaping up to be a great week; not only will Ron be teaching it, but Matt from Pro-Tec (See ADM Explorer's Hall Of Fame) will also be involved. Since Ron is widely known to be such a pushover as an instructor, we anticipate a week of partying and rabble rousing in PDC instead of studying (er, ... hmmm, don't anyone tell Ron I said that...)

john

RonMicjan · 14th December 2006, 22:17

John, you are so busted, its going to be pushups every morning with the meg on your back at 12% O2 until I get tired of watching you sweat.

(good thing Im a pushover, or was that a pushup orderer?)

Phi, I dont have my camera handy, just a cam phone, the orifice is .0035.

pattimegdiver · 16th December 2006, 01:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by diver1369)

Second the motion. I am one of three students in that COPIS class; its shaping up to be a great week; not only will Ron be teaching it, but Matt from Pro-Tec (See ADM Explorer's Hall Of Fame) will also be involved. Since Ron is widely known to be such a pushover as an instructor, we anticipate a week of partying and rabble rousing in PDC instead of studying (er, ... hmmm, don't anyone tell Ron I said that...)

john

Well well well...... interesting

13th December 2006, 12:13	#51 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,814	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Quote: (Originally Posted by silent running) Another option might be the Pelagian, an ECCR that has an adjustable passive add needle valve O2 addition and OTS CLs. It seems like a very sensible design. I seem to remember that it had BOV as standard equipment, so it would be a serious contender if it's really available... -Andy Duh! I meant MCCR, posting too late. Sorry...
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13th December 2006, 12:20	#52 (permalink)
SINUS Rebreather Aficionado Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 137km from equator Posts: 199	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Are there pictures on the Net showing the bottom view of the COPIS lid ? It wasn't in Ron's COPIS article. I am interested in seeing where the orifice is located in the lid. Hey phi, How could you miss stefan's nice piccies?. __________________ "Silence Is Always Beautiful" Last edited by SINUS : 14th December 2006 at 03:38.
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13th December 2006, 12:28	#53 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,100	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Are there pictures on the Net showing the bottom view of the COPIS lid ? It wasn't in Ron's COPIS article. I am interested in seeing where the orifice is located in the lid. It isn't located in the lid mate. It is in line between the reg and the QD on the top of the lid. You will shake your head when you see the way the O2 reg is modified __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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13th December 2006, 12:32	#54 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) It isn't located in the lid mate. It is in line between the reg and the QD on the top of the lid. You will shake your head when you see the way the O2 reg is modified Huhmm, interesting... Any pic available from anywhere ? Weilan, yes I did see Stefan's picture, but had forgotten all about it. Thanks. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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13th December 2006, 14:50	#55 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 582	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Quote: (Originally Posted by pattimegdiver) Yes, ISC will be coming out with their HUD shortly. I am going to be one of the first ones requesting one as soon as they are available. Mel has been Beta testing the COPIS HUD for some time now and it seems to work very well. We haven't heard when it will be released. __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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13th December 2006, 16:37	#56 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,083	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic get your orders in now as they are being spooled up as we speak, I have orders in the que for 3 units for the course we are doing in playa del carmen starting january 26th. (got room for another diver, if anyone is interested) the orifice was originally in the head, but for a possible leak situation (where the o ring popped or some such), I figured that in the hose was a much better place. also less likely to get salt water into it there and get plugged. It has a scintered filter in line just before it also. The white plastic barbed fitting you see in the pic is to attach a hose to the flow meter for predive testing. __________________ Ron "Life is pain princess, anyone who tells you different, is selling something", The Dread Pirate Wesley. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc.
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13th December 2006, 20:47	#57 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Ron, What is the size of the orifice ? Do you have any pic of the orifice installed on the connecting hose as you have mentioned ? Just curious as I REALLY want one since I also miss diving my KISS units... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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13th December 2006, 22:10	#58 (permalink)
diver1369 Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 78	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic [quote=RonMicjan;83239]get your orders in now as they are being spooled up as we speak, I have orders in the que for 3 units for the course we are doing in playa del carmen starting january 26th. (got room for another diver, if anyone is interested)[quote] Second the motion. I am one of three students in that COPIS class; its shaping up to be a great week; not only will Ron be teaching it, but Matt from Pro-Tec (See ADM Explorer's Hall Of Fame) will also be involved. Since Ron is widely known to be such a pushover as an instructor, we anticipate a week of partying and rabble rousing in PDC instead of studying (er, ... hmmm, don't anyone tell Ron I said that...) john Last edited by sadave : 16th December 2006 at 07:30. Reason: fixed quote tags
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14th December 2006, 22:17	#59 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,083	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic John, you are so busted, its going to be pushups every morning with the meg on your back at 12% O2 until I get tired of watching you sweat. (good thing Im a pushover, or was that a pushup orderer?) Phi, I dont have my camera handy, just a cam phone, the orifice is .0035. __________________ Ron "Life is pain princess, anyone who tells you different, is selling something", The Dread Pirate Wesley. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc.
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16th December 2006, 01:55	#60 (permalink)
pattimegdiver #1 COPIS Mini Meg Girl Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 305	Re: COPIS v Kiss Classic Quote: (Originally Posted by diver1369) Second the motion. I am one of three students in that COPIS class; its shaping up to be a great week; not only will Ron be teaching it, but Matt from Pro-Tec (See ADM Explorer's Hall Of Fame) will also be involved. Since Ron is widely known to be such a pushover as an instructor, we anticipate a week of partying and rabble rousing in PDC instead of studying (er, ... hmmm, don't anyone tell Ron I said that...) john Well well well...... interesting __________________ Patti Meg Diver Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk
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