meg scrubbers

windymiller · 6th December 2006, 00:08

Ok, I havent got a meg, but in process of looking for one...

I have a question for the more technical minded folk

From what I understand, the standard scrubber will have a duration of about 3hours?

I have been looking over the golem gear radial scrubber..I have seen it noted somewhere that scrubber duration is up to 9 hours?

now, going by simple mathematics, if the radial can last up to 3x longer, is it not cheaper in the long(ish) run to purchase one of these to offset the cost of buying extra lime?

I could be wrong..and probably about to find out how wrong I am but is this a realistic scenario?..

RonMicjan · 6th December 2006, 00:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller)

Ok, I havent got a meg, but in process of looking for one...

I have a question for the more technical minded folk

From what I understand, the standard scrubber will have a duration of about 3hours?

I have been looking over the golem gear radial scrubber..I have seen it noted somewhere that scrubber duration is up to 9 hours?

now, going by simple mathematics, if the radial can last up to 3x longer, is it not cheaper in the long(ish) run to purchase one of these to offset the cost of buying extra lime?

I could be wrong..and probably about to find out how wrong I am but is this a realistic scenario?..

The numbers are quite fuzzy and ratings are not apples to apples. I have both the stock 5.5lb axial scrubber as well as the ISC made 7.5lb radial. The axial usually nets me 4 hours or so, depending on how and where I have used it, the radial gets me 6 or so, but I usually end up tossing out more scrubber cause you dont want to take a used scrubber deep and after a couple dives I find I want to do a deep one again, so out it goes and new lime in. I now tend to choose which scrubber can I use based on the dive Im doing. I have, during my first testing of the radial, used it as long as 9 hours, but in warm water and the last 4 hours doing shallow dives less than 60 feet.

OK, here is some opinion: Stock scrubber is fine for most divers, if you are going stupid deep, past 300fsw or so, the radial breathes better and is very efficient in its use of lime. the advantage of the axial though, is you can pop the top of the unit and see (if using color indicating sorb) how much of the material you used. The color indicator is not perfect, but just a guide of use. Still, you will want to use fresh sorb if doing a deep dive. The other advantage of the axial (clear housing) is I can toss out the purple stuff and then dump whats left in a sealed container and use it for the pool (only).

So, my advice, until you start doing monster dives and really NEED the radial, go with the stock axial.

hope this helps

decoweenie · 6th December 2006, 02:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller)

I have been looking over the golem gear radial scrubber...

Can't talk to you about the duration yet, but as I just opened the package for the Golem radial scrubber about 2 minutes ago...

It is beautifully made and high professional quality.

The spring-loaded top is ingenous, I can't understand why others haven't designed as such since it sure will make packing much easier.

Jakub, I also think you could modify it easily to work in the YBOD scrubber - if you want.

RebreatherDave · 6th December 2006, 02:58

If you make one for the Inspiration, just make sure you leave room for our beloved temp sticks!

lof · 6th December 2006, 13:28

Thanks Phi

I thought that you would like it.

I am not sure that the temp stick would work in the radial scrubber, since the sorb does not get used linearly (is that a word?) along the axis. There would need to be multiple sensors or stick along the radial path to convey the same info. It would be shorter - thus the usage algorithm would have to be changed, etc..
I'll look into that when I get my hands on YBOD with one. There aren't that many around here.

decoweenie · 6th December 2006, 13:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

I thought that you would like it.

I really do. Quality is superb!

Quote:

I am not sure that the temp stick would work in the radial scrubber, since the sorb does not get used linearly (is that a word?) along the axis.

I'll look into that when I get my hands on YBOD with one. There aren't that many around here.

If you make one, I would use it with my YBOD-Shearwater so no Temp-Stick won't be an issue for me personally.

If you need some help with YBOD scrubber dimensions, let me know.

Johnny Christensen · 6th December 2006, 14:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

I I'll look into that when I get my hands on YBOD with one. There aren't that many around here.

You could also *just* make one for the classic inspiration. I'm sure there is a higher number af that model on the marked, than the vision.

I'll buy one, having seen how well the GolemGear BOV is made, I have no problems trying out aftermarked items from you.

sensor330 · 8th December 2006, 20:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

You could also *just* make one for the classic inspiration. I'm sure there is a higher number af that model on the marked, than the vision.

I'll buy one, having seen how well the GolemGear BOV is made, I have no problems trying out aftermarked items from you.

Ditto. I'd buy one too.

Explorer · 8th December 2006, 20:28

Solution:

Just get a Meg

and all your problems will be solved.

decoweenie · 8th December 2006, 20:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by Explorer)

Solution:

Just get a Meg

and all your problems will be solved.

I have, but doesn't mean I don't want to modify my other units too...

6th December 2006, 00:08	#1 (permalink)
windymiller All The Gear, No Idea Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: england Posts: 294	meg scrubbers Ok, I havent got a meg, but in process of looking for one... I have a question for the more technical minded folk From what I understand, the standard scrubber will have a duration of about 3hours? I have been looking over the golem gear radial scrubber..I have seen it noted somewhere that scrubber duration is up to 9 hours? now, going by simple mathematics, if the radial can last up to 3x longer, is it not cheaper in the long(ish) run to purchase one of these to offset the cost of buying extra lime? I could be wrong..and probably about to find out how wrong I am but is this a realistic scenario?..
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6th December 2006, 00:48	#2 (permalink)
RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,120	Re: meg scrubbers Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller) Ok, I havent got a meg, but in process of looking for one... I have a question for the more technical minded folk From what I understand, the standard scrubber will have a duration of about 3hours? I have been looking over the golem gear radial scrubber..I have seen it noted somewhere that scrubber duration is up to 9 hours? now, going by simple mathematics, if the radial can last up to 3x longer, is it not cheaper in the long(ish) run to purchase one of these to offset the cost of buying extra lime? I could be wrong..and probably about to find out how wrong I am but is this a realistic scenario?.. The numbers are quite fuzzy and ratings are not apples to apples. I have both the stock 5.5lb axial scrubber as well as the ISC made 7.5lb radial. The axial usually nets me 4 hours or so, depending on how and where I have used it, the radial gets me 6 or so, but I usually end up tossing out more scrubber cause you dont want to take a used scrubber deep and after a couple dives I find I want to do a deep one again, so out it goes and new lime in. I now tend to choose which scrubber can I use based on the dive Im doing. I have, during my first testing of the radial, used it as long as 9 hours, but in warm water and the last 4 hours doing shallow dives less than 60 feet. OK, here is some opinion: Stock scrubber is fine for most divers, if you are going stupid deep, past 300fsw or so, the radial breathes better and is very efficient in its use of lime. the advantage of the axial though, is you can pop the top of the unit and see (if using color indicating sorb) how much of the material you used. The color indicator is not perfect, but just a guide of use. Still, you will want to use fresh sorb if doing a deep dive. The other advantage of the axial (clear housing) is I can toss out the purple stuff and then dump whats left in a sealed container and use it for the pool (only). So, my advice, until you start doing monster dives and really NEED the radial, go with the stock axial. hope this helps __________________ Marine rescue, towing and salvage. Interfering with natural selection since 1983. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc. www.seatowpdx.com The Summer Job
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6th December 2006, 02:07	#3 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: meg scrubbers Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller) I have been looking over the golem gear radial scrubber... Can't talk to you about the duration yet, but as I just opened the package for the Golem radial scrubber about 2 minutes ago... It is beautifully made and high professional quality. The spring-loaded top is ingenous, I can't understand why others haven't designed as such since it sure will make packing much easier. Jakub, I also think you could modify it easily to work in the YBOD scrubber - if you want. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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6th December 2006, 02:58	#4 (permalink)
RebreatherDave Maximum **** Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s:** Join Date: May 2005 Location: L.A., where the debris meets the sea Posts: 226	Re: meg scrubbers If you make one for the Inspiration, just make sure you leave room for our beloved temp sticks!
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6th December 2006, 13:28	#5 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: meg scrubbers Thanks Phi I thought that you would like it. I am not sure that the temp stick would work in the radial scrubber, since the sorb does not get used linearly (is that a word?) along the axis. There would need to be multiple sensors or stick along the radial path to convey the same info. It would be shorter - thus the usage algorithm would have to be changed, etc.. I'll look into that when I get my hands on YBOD with one. There aren't that many around here. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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6th December 2006, 13:53	#6 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: meg scrubbers Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) I thought that you would like it. I really do. Quality is superb! Quote: I am not sure that the temp stick would work in the radial scrubber, since the sorb does not get used linearly (is that a word?) along the axis. I'll look into that when I get my hands on YBOD with one. There aren't that many around here. If you make one, I would use it with my YBOD-Shearwater so no Temp-Stick won't be an issue for me personally. If you need some help with YBOD scrubber dimensions, let me know. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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6th December 2006, 14:40	#7 (permalink)
Johnny Christensen RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 307	Re: meg scrubbers Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) I I'll look into that when I get my hands on YBOD with one. There aren't that many around here. You could also just make one for the classic inspiration. I'm sure there is a higher number af that model on the marked, than the vision. I'll buy one, having seen how well the GolemGear BOV is made, I have no problems trying out aftermarked items from you. __________________ www.johnnychristensen.com Wreckphotography from the cold north
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8th December 2006, 20:10	#8 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: meg scrubbers Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) You could also just make one for the classic inspiration. I'm sure there is a higher number af that model on the marked, than the vision. I'll buy one, having seen how well the GolemGear BOV is made, I have no problems trying out aftermarked items from you. Ditto. I'd buy one too. Last edited by sensor330 : 8th December 2006 at 20:40.
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8th December 2006, 20:28	#9 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 784	Re: meg scrubbers Solution: Just get a Meg and all your problems will be solved. __________________ KONA COFFEE
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8th December 2006, 20:52	#10 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: meg scrubbers Quote: (Originally Posted by Explorer) Solution: Just get a Meg and all your problems will be solved. I have, but doesn't mean I don't want to modify my other units too... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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