Beta testing APECS 2.05a

cedricverdier · 21st November 2006, 04:16

Hi all,

I just come back from Centralia WA where I've done the ISC Technician course. Extremely interesting (Thanks to Leon, Steve and all the ISC team). Really a course to do if you want to know everything (or almost everything) about the Meg, from " how to build the electronics" to "how to mess up with the glue that makes your counterlung watertight"....

It also gave me the opportunity to work with the COPIS, a Meg that combines the simplicity of an mCCR and the reliability and robustness of the standard Meg.

And of course I serviced and upgraded my own unit, that definitely deserved it after the last deep dives.
Waiting for the APECS 3.0 (a lot of very promising features!), APECS 2.0.5a is in its final test phase. Already plenty of good stuff in it:
- the power saving feature is now selectable, as is the backlight
- the solenoid injection is better controlled
- some of the features from the previous versions have been slightly changed for a safer, simpler, more intuitive interface (altitude, fiO2, etc)
So no drastic changes yet, but nice to have it.

But don't call Leon to upgrade your electronics yet. This version is not implemented for the time being.

Cheers

dgschott · 21st November 2006, 08:09

The new features sounds very cool.... This might be a dumb question, but I'm not so sure how the whole upgrading works wiht ISC? I bought my Meg a few months ago and have the latest APECS version - (k i believe)- When a new upgrade comes out, (2.05a) does he upgrade it for free, or is there a fee associated for the upgrade?

**Gill Envy** · 21st November 2006, 21:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by dgschott)

The new features sounds very cool.... This might be a dumb question, but I'm not so sure how the whole upgrading works wiht ISC? I bought my Meg a few months ago and have the latest APECS version - (k i believe)- When a new upgrade comes out, (2.05a) does he upgrade it for free, or is there a fee associated for the upgrade?

From what i've been told, the new version will require a whole new head...Not free...

***Decodiver*** · 21st November 2006, 21:26

Apecs 3 will need a new head, for your Apecs 2 I suggest you email Steve Stollen at ISC for a quote on the small fee your upgrade may be.

However if what you have works why not stick with it, I will not be rushing to get my Meg software updated it works fine as it is.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

RonMicjan · 22nd November 2006, 02:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

From what i've been told, the new version will require a whole new head...Not free...

going from apecs 2 to 2.05 does not require a new head,
apecs 3 will.

recent apecs 2.* systems coming out of the meg hatchery now have a 4 pin plug on the battery pack, making software upgrades very easy. Call Steve 360 330 9018 to find out if there is a charge for the upgrade.

I hear that all inspiration and evolution users now have to pay $5,000 per year for annual maintainence, plus shipping to and from the UK and APV expects each unit to have to remain for at least 3 months due to the que for service wait, cause they only have one 72 year old man doing the service and his eyesight isnt too good. Thats what i was told...

...giving you the gears there Gill

**Gill Envy** · 22nd November 2006, 03:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

going from apecs 2 to 2.05 does not require a new head,
apecs 3 will.

recent apecs 2.* systems coming out of the meg hatchery now have a 4 pin plug on the battery pack, making software upgrades very easy. Call Steve 360 330 9018 to find out if there is a charge for the upgrade.

I hear that all inspiration and evolution users now have to pay $5,000 per year for annual maintainence, plus shipping to and from the UK and APV expects each unit to have to remain for at least 3 months due to the que for service wait, cause they only have one 72 year old man doing the service and his eyesight isnt too good. Thats what i was told...

...giving you the gears there Gill

ok, i can take it, no really i can

. i got a little confuuuused/mixed up by: "Waiting for the APECS 3.0 (a lot of very promising features!), APECS 2.0.5a is in its final test phase."...i was thinking 2.0.5a was a prototype of 3.0, which frankly, i'm keeping a very close eye on.... apecs 3.0 meg and a copis for back up, hmmm

....but until there is a temp stick i'll be hard pressed to make the switch.

dgschott · 22nd November 2006, 03:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

going from apecs 2 to 2.05 does not require a new head,
apecs 3 will.

recent apecs 2.* systems coming out of the meg hatchery now have a 4 pin plug on the battery pack, making software upgrades very easy. Call Steve 360 330 9018 to find out if there is a charge for the upgrade.

I

Very cool - Thanks for the info Ron. I'm looking forward to hear about the features - would love to be able to not have to push a button to bring the screen back to life throughout the whole dive! I'll wait 'till I hear that the upgrade is available on here I guess - then give Steve a call. btw....Who is Steve?

Steve · 22nd November 2006, 03:49

Steve Stolen is the VP of ISC and the man behind the APECS electronics. He knows stuff

dgschott · 22nd November 2006, 03:53

Ahhh - That makes good sense! Thanks to you all for putting up with these questions! lol

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

Steve Stolen is the VP of ISC and the man behind the APECS electronics. He knows stuff

scubagrunt · 22nd November 2006, 09:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

ok, i can take it, no really i can

. i got a little confuuuused/mixed up by: "Waiting for the APECS 3.0 (a lot of very promising features!), APECS 2.0.5a is in its final test phase."...i was thinking 2.0.5a was a prototype of 3.0, which frankly, i'm keeping a very close eye on.... apecs 3.0 meg and a copis for back up, hmmm

....but until there is a temp stick i'll be hard pressed to make the switch.

Gill come check out the new COPIS in my december class! you may decide to go COPIS all the way.

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cedricverdier S21 M.I.B. Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worldwide! Posts: 498	Beta testing APECS 2.05a Hi all, I just come back from Centralia WA where I've done the ISC Technician course. Extremely interesting (Thanks to Leon, Steve and all the ISC team). Really a course to do if you want to know everything (or almost everything) about the Meg, from " how to build the electronics" to "how to mess up with the glue that makes your counterlung watertight".... It also gave me the opportunity to work with the COPIS, a Meg that combines the simplicity of an mCCR and the reliability and robustness of the standard Meg. And of course I serviced and upgraded my own unit, that definitely deserved it after the last deep dives. Waiting for the APECS 3.0 (a lot of very promising features!), APECS 2.0.5a is in its final test phase. Already plenty of good stuff in it: - the power saving feature is now selectable, as is the backlight - the solenoid injection is better controlled - some of the features from the previous versions have been slightly changed for a safer, simpler, more intuitive interface (altitude, fiO2, etc) So no drastic changes yet, but nice to have it. But don't call Leon to upgrade your electronics yet. This version is not implemented for the time being. Cheers __________________ Cedric Verdier PADI Course Director, ANDI-IANTD-PSAI-TDI-DSAT-DAN-NAUI-CMAS Instructor Trainer Trimix (CCR and OC) and Cave Diving Instructor Trainer www.CedricVerdier.com DIRrebreather member
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21st November 2006, 08:09	#2 (permalink)
dgschott Liquid Productions, LLC Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aston, PA Posts: 115	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a The new features sounds very cool.... This might be a dumb question, but I'm not so sure how the whole upgrading works wiht ISC? I bought my Meg a few months ago and have the latest APECS version - (k i believe)- When a new upgrade comes out, (2.05a) does he upgrade it for free, or is there a fee associated for the upgrade? __________________ David Schott Liquid Productions, LLC
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21st November 2006, 21:21	#3 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,347	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Quote: (Originally Posted by dgschott) The new features sounds very cool.... This might be a dumb question, but I'm not so sure how the whole upgrading works wiht ISC? I bought my Meg a few months ago and have the latest APECS version - (k i believe)- When a new upgrade comes out, (2.05a) does he upgrade it for free, or is there a fee associated for the upgrade? From what i've been told, the new version will require a whole new head...Not free... __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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21st November 2006, 21:26	#4 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Apecs 3 will need a new head, for your Apecs 2 I suggest you email Steve Stollen at ISC for a quote on the small fee your upgrade may be. However if what you have works why not stick with it, I will not be rushing to get my Meg software updated it works fine as it is. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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RonMicjan Cap Ron scourge of the NW Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cape Disapointment, The Graveyard of the Pacific Posts: 1,120	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) From what i've been told, the new version will require a whole new head...Not free... going from apecs 2 to 2.05 does not require a new head, apecs 3 will. recent apecs 2.* systems coming out of the meg hatchery now have a 4 pin plug on the battery pack, making software upgrades very easy. Call Steve 360 330 9018 to find out if there is a charge for the upgrade. I hear that all inspiration and evolution users now have to pay $5,000 per year for annual maintainence, plus shipping to and from the UK and APV expects each unit to have to remain for at least 3 months due to the que for service wait, cause they only have one 72 year old man doing the service and his eyesight isnt too good. Thats what i was told... ...giving you the gears there Gill __________________ Marine rescue, towing and salvage. Interfering with natural selection since 1983. www.tmishop.com Diving bits etc. www.seatowpdx.com The Summer Job
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22nd November 2006, 03:20	#6 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,347	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) going from apecs 2 to 2.05 does not require a new head, apecs 3 will. recent apecs 2.* systems coming out of the meg hatchery now have a 4 pin plug on the battery pack, making software upgrades very easy. Call Steve 360 330 9018 to find out if there is a charge for the upgrade. I hear that all inspiration and evolution users now have to pay $5,000 per year for annual maintainence, plus shipping to and from the UK and APV expects each unit to have to remain for at least 3 months due to the que for service wait, cause they only have one 72 year old man doing the service and his eyesight isnt too good. Thats what i was told... ...giving you the gears there Gill ok, i can take it, no really i can . i got a little confuuuused/mixed up by: "Waiting for the APECS 3.0 (a lot of very promising features!), APECS 2.0.5a is in its final test phase."...i was thinking 2.0.5a was a prototype of 3.0, which frankly, i'm keeping a very close eye on.... apecs 3.0 meg and a copis for back up, hmmm ....but until there is a temp stick i'll be hard pressed to make the switch. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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dgschott Liquid Productions, LLC Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aston, PA Posts: 115	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) going from apecs 2 to 2.05 does not require a new head, apecs 3 will. recent apecs 2.* systems coming out of the meg hatchery now have a 4 pin plug on the battery pack, making software upgrades very easy. Call Steve 360 330 9018 to find out if there is a charge for the upgrade. I Very cool - Thanks for the info Ron. I'm looking forward to hear about the features - would love to be able to not have to push a button to bring the screen back to life throughout the whole dive! I'll wait 'till I hear that the upgrade is available on here I guess - then give Steve a call. btw....Who is Steve? __________________ David Schott Liquid Productions, LLC
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22nd November 2006, 03:53	#9 (permalink)
dgschott Liquid Productions, LLC Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aston, PA Posts: 115	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Ahhh - That makes good sense! Thanks to you all for putting up with these questions! lol Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) Steve Stolen is the VP of ISC and the man behind the APECS electronics. He knows stuff __________________ David Schott Liquid Productions, LLC
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scubagrunt CCR Diva Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 441	Re: Beta testing APECS 2.05a Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) ok, i can take it, no really i can . i got a little confuuuused/mixed up by: "Waiting for the APECS 3.0 (a lot of very promising features!), APECS 2.0.5a is in its final test phase."...i was thinking 2.0.5a was a prototype of 3.0, which frankly, i'm keeping a very close eye on.... apecs 3.0 meg and a copis for back up, hmmm ....but until there is a temp stick i'll be hard pressed to make the switch. Gill come check out the new COPIS in my december class! you may decide to go COPIS all the way. __________________ "No good deed goes unpunished!" www.silentscuba.com
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