New Meg.....recommendations pls

Mark E · 3rd June 2005, 18:17

Just to introduce myself, I have been diving since 2000 and have gradually progressed to a full trimix OC diver. The logistics of having to travel to my LDS for trimix and rich O2 fills has become a real ball-ache and I have decided that a rebreather is the best option. After weighing up all the available units over several months, I think the Meg is the one for me. Now this is where the real work begins!! There are so many options that I not sure which to go for. My current wish list is:

Basic Meg package
ADV
Mixed Gas Manual Bypass
DIV
Shearwater software and HUD
Tiger Gear bands

When speaking to Leon, I made this out to be about ~$10,200. I plan to use it with my 99lb OMS bladder. I have checked out all the other options available (http://www.rebreatherworld.com/t874-.html…….thanks Dave!) and I now can’t see the wood for the trees!!!

What are your collective recommendations please?

***Decodiver*** · 3rd June 2005, 18:25

Hi Mark,

Seems like you have chosen a good package, that is the one I have.

I find the Shearwater to be intuitive and like the one handset approach.

You may find that the OMS wing is a little big for the Meg, I use a Dive-Rite RecWing and others use the Travel or Venture wing.

You want to do the training here in the UK or are you going to Centralia?

Cheers

Dave Cooper.

Gadget · 3rd June 2005, 18:28

you can shave a few dollars of buy not getting cylinders or first stages and gauges from leon, youmay find your oms wing a little on the large side you dont need that much lift, I run a dive rite wreck wing, the dive rite venture wing is also popular,

***schford*** · 3rd June 2005, 18:29

Package looks great - the dive rite Trekwing gets my vote - you can see mine in the break down, its what Leon uses and reccomends. It also makes hose routing very neat and tidy with none of the over the top yucky bunching your are forced down with some wings (just remember its called the Ford flow *grins*).

Though I would say try yours first before ordering one - the nice thing about the Meg being so modular!

I would also add an ADV isolator I find it very useful for tweaking and getting minimum loop volume - a little trick Leon showed me.

What first stages are you going to go with - Poseidons gets my vote and is what I use, great hose routing and plenty of oompth to supply you if you go open loop. Incidently its what Leon uses as well.

Stuart

***Decodiver*** · 3rd June 2005, 18:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

I would also add an ADV isolator I find it very useful for tweaking and getting minimum loop volume - a little trick Leon showed me.

He already has it, it is the DIV. Admittedly I had to check my price list to remember it was called that.

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

What first stages are you going to go with - Poseidons gets my vote and is what I use, great hose routing and plenty of oompth to supply you if you go open loop. Incidently its what Leon uses as well.

I have the standard Scubapros on mine and find they are fine.

I am no longer a fan of Poseidon first stages, having had too many issues with them recently.

The Scubapros will be fine for open loop, even if the ADV freeflows with the DIV and OPV there should be no problem.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

***schford*** · 3rd June 2005, 18:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

I have the standard Scubapros on mine and find they are fine.

I am no longer a fan of Poseidon first stages, having had too many issues with them recently.

The Scubapros will be fine for open loop, even if the ADV freeflows with the DIV and OPV there should be no problem.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

You pays your money and makes your choice then!

I have never had any probs with Poseidons and have always used them...If they are good enough for the guy who designs and makes the Megs they are good enough for me!

They do cost more - but I have always been a firm believer in you get what you pay for....and lets face it if your buying a Meg you probably want the best available!

Stuart

decoweenie · 3rd June 2005, 19:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

...lets face it if your buying a Meg you probably want the best available!...

You are starting to sound like a used car salesman, Stuart. Everyone knows RBW is a Meg-fest, no need to push it...

...

***schford*** · 3rd June 2005, 19:41

*grins* I am in the Meg Forum I can be biased in here

decoweenie · 3rd June 2005, 19:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

... in the Meg Forum ...

Oops, wrong door

Sorry...

**trob09** · 3rd June 2005, 20:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

You pays your money and makes your choice then!

I have never had any probs with Poseidons and have always used them...If they are good enough for the guy who designs and makes the Megs they are good enough for me!

They do cost more - but I have always been a firm believer in you get what you pay for....and lets face it if your buying a Meg you probably want the best available!

Stuart

I looked long and hard at the poseidons. The main selling feature was the internal OPV.

In the end, I stuck with my Atomic M1's. I had 7 of 'em already, all the repair tools and a bunch of repair kits. They've performed flawlessly for me over the years, delivering more then enough gas at trimix depths on OC. I never had a free-flow, even in 36 degree water (I'm not sure what that is in Metric..1c? 2 maybe?)

They route excellently with the g-snaps using the patented Ford-flow routing with the trob modification (wait for the photos...). I am quite happy with the results.

3rd June 2005, 18:17	#1 (permalink)
Mark E New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kent, England Posts: 12	New Meg.....recommendations pls Just to introduce myself, I have been diving since 2000 and have gradually progressed to a full trimix OC diver. The logistics of having to travel to my LDS for trimix and rich O2 fills has become a real ball-ache and I have decided that a rebreather is the best option. After weighing up all the available units over several months, I think the Meg is the one for me. Now this is where the real work begins!! There are so many options that I not sure which to go for. My current wish list is: Basic Meg package ADV Mixed Gas Manual Bypass DIV Shearwater software and HUD Tiger Gear bands When speaking to Leon, I made this out to be about ~$10,200. I plan to use it with my 99lb OMS bladder. I have checked out all the other options available (http://www.rebreatherworld.com/t874-.html…….thanks Dave!) and I now can’t see the wood for the trees!!! What are your collective recommendations please?
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3rd June 2005, 18:25	#2 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Hi Mark, Seems like you have chosen a good package, that is the one I have. I find the Shearwater to be intuitive and like the one handset approach. You may find that the OMS wing is a little big for the Meg, I use a Dive-Rite RecWing and others use the Travel or Venture wing. You want to do the training here in the UK or are you going to Centralia? Cheers Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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3rd June 2005, 18:28	#3 (permalink)
Gadget Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon rEvo Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Dolphin Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hoddesdon, Herts. Posts: 163	you can shave a few dollars of buy not getting cylinders or first stages and gauges from leon, youmay find your oms wing a little on the large side you dont need that much lift, I run a dive rite wreck wing, the dive rite venture wing is also popular, __________________ Si Lawrence www.divehdi.com
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3rd June 2005, 18:29	#4 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Package looks great - the dive rite Trekwing gets my vote - you can see mine in the break down, its what Leon uses and reccomends. It also makes hose routing very neat and tidy with none of the over the top yucky bunching your are forced down with some wings (just remember its called the Ford flow grins). Though I would say try yours first before ordering one - the nice thing about the Meg being so modular! I would also add an ADV isolator I find it very useful for tweaking and getting minimum loop volume - a little trick Leon showed me. What first stages are you going to go with - Poseidons gets my vote and is what I use, great hose routing and plenty of oompth to supply you if you go open loop. Incidently its what Leon uses as well. Stuart
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3rd June 2005, 18:43	#5 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) I would also add an ADV isolator I find it very useful for tweaking and getting minimum loop volume - a little trick Leon showed me. He already has it, it is the DIV. Admittedly I had to check my price list to remember it was called that. Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) What first stages are you going to go with - Poseidons gets my vote and is what I use, great hose routing and plenty of oompth to supply you if you go open loop. Incidently its what Leon uses as well. I have the standard Scubapros on mine and find they are fine. I am no longer a fan of Poseidon first stages, having had too many issues with them recently. The Scubapros will be fine for open loop, even if the ADV freeflows with the DIV and OPV there should be no problem. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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3rd June 2005, 18:50	#6 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) I have the standard Scubapros on mine and find they are fine. I am no longer a fan of Poseidon first stages, having had too many issues with them recently. The Scubapros will be fine for open loop, even if the ADV freeflows with the DIV and OPV there should be no problem. Cheers, Dave Cooper. You pays your money and makes your choice then! I have never had any probs with Poseidons and have always used them...If they are good enough for the guy who designs and makes the Megs they are good enough for me! They do cost more - but I have always been a firm believer in you get what you pay for....and lets face it if your buying a Meg you probably want the best available! Stuart
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3rd June 2005, 19:30	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) ...lets face it if your buying a Meg you probably want the best available!... You are starting to sound like a used car salesman, Stuart. Everyone knows RBW is a Meg-fest, no need to push it... ...
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3rd June 2005, 19:41	#8 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	grins I am in the Meg Forum I can be biased in here
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) ... in the Meg Forum ... Oops, wrong door Sorry...
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3rd June 2005, 20:02	#10 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 701	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) You pays your money and makes your choice then! I have never had any probs with Poseidons and have always used them...If they are good enough for the guy who designs and makes the Megs they are good enough for me! They do cost more - but I have always been a firm believer in you get what you pay for....and lets face it if your buying a Meg you probably want the best available! Stuart I looked long and hard at the poseidons. The main selling feature was the internal OPV. In the end, I stuck with my Atomic M1's. I had 7 of 'em already, all the repair tools and a bunch of repair kits. They've performed flawlessly for me over the years, delivering more then enough gas at trimix depths on OC. I never had a free-flow, even in 36 degree water (I'm not sure what that is in Metric..1c? 2 maybe?) They route excellently with the g-snaps using the patented Ford-flow routing with the trob modification (wait for the photos...). I am quite happy with the results.
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