Radial Scrubber for Meg

lof · 16th October 2006, 13:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by viscya)

Ok, I have to ask. Has anyone considered a Radial scrubber for the Kiss Classic? With the meg the benefit is an increase in the amount of sorb. With the Kiss, there would be no increase in sorb, actually there may be a decrease, but the WOB would be improved.

Personally I don't consider the WOB on a Classic with 8-12 to be an issue, but others might.

Thoughts?

We did consider it, but the diameter of the Kiss can is really small. I do not think we can make safe radial scrubber. The srubber bed would be too short. But I have not actually calculated that, yet. One rebreather at a time

nmanfield · 16th October 2006, 16:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

I'll see if I can slide it into this production batch. If not, then next batch which will be about 8 weeks out.

Hi jakub,

Sounds great - what sort of a price will there be for the extended scrubber and how much sorb will it take?

Thanks,

nick

lof · 16th October 2006, 21:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield)

Hi jakub,

Sounds great - what sort of a price will there be for the extended scrubber and how much sorb will it take?

Thanks,

nick

It looks like we can squeeze it into the current production batch. I'll let you know when it is finished.

***EBT*** · 15th December 2006, 10:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

Official test results are forthcoming. For now you will have to progressively test duration, as CO2 production can vary greatly in each idividual.

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

$980

Ouch, I dont expect a reply, but it seems bloody expensive to me given that its not tested and relatively easy to build. I appreciate that development has costs and innovation needs an incentive, but even so....

Still, I guess at least its available..

decoweenie · 15th December 2006, 10:45

Jakub,

As discussed, I have made some measurements for the Mini-Meg radial scrubber.

The following pictures are showing:

Golem standard radial scrubber inside (my) Mini Meg can. I said mine since I don't know if all Mini Meg cans are of the same dimension.
How I made the measurement: the gap from the top of the radial scrubber to the top of the can.
The built-in bottom spacer on the Mini Meg.

Here are the dimensions that I think you will need to shorten the standard radial scrubber to fit inside (my) Mini Meg:

The gap is 133mm for the standard Golem radial scrubber and spacer inside the standard Meg can with NO absorbent on bottom.
The gap is 18mm for the standard Golem radial scrubber inside the Mini Meg can with built-in spacer only.

Off the top of my head, I believe by shorten the standard Golem radial scrubber 115mm (i.e. 133 - 18) should work.

lof · 15th December 2006, 17:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT)

Ouch, I dont expect a reply, but it seems bloody expensive to me given that its not tested and relatively easy to build. I appreciate that development has costs and innovation needs an incentive, but even so....

Still, I guess at least its available..

Our vigorous sales indicate that people prefer to buy them

We have a long waiting list at the moment.
They are easy to build if you have access to proper materials and CNC machines (which cost money).
What would you consider fair price? I know of scrubbers that sell for 3 times as much.

lof · 15th December 2006, 17:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Jakub,

As discussed, I have made some measurements for the Mini-Meg radial scrubber.

Off the top of my head, I believe by shorten the standard Golem radial scrubber 115mm (i.e. 133 - 18) should work.

Thanks Phi,

We will get right on it.

Jakub

***EBT*** · 15th December 2006, 17:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

Our vigorous sales indicate that people prefer to buy them

I guess thats kinda fair enough...... hell, its not like I even own a meg, so Im only another gobshite on t'internet

decoweenie · 6th January 2007, 16:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

Thanks Phi,

We will get right on it.

Jakub

One more dimension in case you need it...

The Mini-Meg can spacer is exactly 30mm thick, and removable.

This means that you could extend the radial scrubber a bit longer (for more sorb) and include your own thinner spacer, or build into the bottom of the scrubber (extending the outer lips).

16th October 2006, 13:05	#31 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by viscya) Ok, I have to ask. Has anyone considered a Radial scrubber for the Kiss Classic? With the meg the benefit is an increase in the amount of sorb. With the Kiss, there would be no increase in sorb, actually there may be a decrease, but the WOB would be improved. Personally I don't consider the WOB on a Classic with 8-12 to be an issue, but others might. Thoughts? We did consider it, but the diameter of the Kiss can is really small. I do not think we can make safe radial scrubber. The srubber bed would be too short. But I have not actually calculated that, yet. One rebreather at a time __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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16th October 2006, 16:59	#32 (permalink)
nmanfield Megalegalegalegadingdong! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Odessa, Ukraine Posts: 329	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) I'll see if I can slide it into this production batch. If not, then next batch which will be about 8 weeks out. Hi jakub, Sounds great - what sort of a price will there be for the extended scrubber and how much sorb will it take? Thanks, nick __________________ Tub 'O Lard
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16th October 2006, 21:37	#33 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield) Hi jakub, Sounds great - what sort of a price will there be for the extended scrubber and how much sorb will it take? Thanks, nick It looks like we can squeeze it into the current production batch. I'll let you know when it is finished. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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15th December 2006, 10:31	#34 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 2,111	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) Official test results are forthcoming. For now you will have to progressively test duration, as CO2 production can vary greatly in each idividual. Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) $980 Ouch, I dont expect a reply, but it seems bloody expensive to me given that its not tested and relatively easy to build. I appreciate that development has costs and innovation needs an incentive, but even so.... Still, I guess at least its available.. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! RBW Terms of service
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15th December 2006, 17:08	#36 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by EBT) Ouch, I dont expect a reply, but it seems bloody expensive to me given that its not tested and relatively easy to build. I appreciate that development has costs and innovation needs an incentive, but even so.... Still, I guess at least its available.. Our vigorous sales indicate that people prefer to buy them We have a long waiting list at the moment. They are easy to build if you have access to proper materials and CNC machines (which cost money). What would you consider fair price? I know of scrubbers that sell for 3 times as much. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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15th December 2006, 17:11	#37 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Jakub, As discussed, I have made some measurements for the Mini-Meg radial scrubber. Off the top of my head, I believe by shorten the standard Golem radial scrubber 115mm (i.e. 133 - 18) should work. Thanks Phi, We will get right on it. Jakub __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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15th December 2006, 17:36	#38 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 2,111	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) Our vigorous sales indicate that people prefer to buy them I guess thats kinda fair enough...... hell, its not like I even own a meg, so Im only another gobshite on t'internet __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! RBW Terms of service
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6th January 2007, 16:35	#39 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) Thanks Phi, We will get right on it. Jakub One more dimension in case you need it... The Mini-Meg can spacer is exactly 30mm thick, and removable. This means that you could extend the radial scrubber a bit longer (for more sorb) and include your own thinner spacer, or build into the bottom of the scrubber (extending the outer lips). __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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