Radial Scrubber for Meg

mbelair · 13th October 2006, 15:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

Official test results are forthcoming. For now you will have to progressively test duration, as CO2 production can vary greatly in each idividual.

This does not sound as much of a sales pitch to me

.

As a potential costumer, I don't feel the need to be a guinea pig. Maybe I'm over reacting, I have so far close to no experience with rebreathers other than two trial runs, I'm a cyber rebreather diver.

How would one test duration safely?

I'm not trolling, I just want to understand your position.

Thanks

lof · 13th October 2006, 17:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by mbelair)

This does not sound as much of a sales pitch to me

.

As a potential costumer, I don't feel the need to be a guinea pig. Maybe I'm over reacting, I have so far close to no experience with rebreathers other than two trial runs, I'm a cyber rebreather diver.

How would one test duration safely?

I'm not trolling, I just want to understand your position.

Thanks

I am not trying to make a sales pitch. This is a life support equipment. I'd rather you not buy it, if you are not comfortable with it.
Every rebreather diver is essentially a guinea pig. Consumer CCRs are a fairly young industry and there is precious little independent testing data available for any unit.
Until the test results from independent testing agency are available for our scrubber, all I can tell you is what duration I or other test divers dove it for.
But that would not be indicative of how long it would last for you, because each person produces different amount of CO2 under same load. Even same person will produce different amount of CO2 on different days.

The way I determine duration of any scrubber, is that I take it on progressively longer/deeper dives. I know how hypercapnia manifests in me (couch diving is perfect first step for that). I carry plenty of bailout and practice procedures for SCR and OC bailout. Good BOV is of great value for quick sanity breaths when working hard (here is your sales pitch

). I've had several hypercapnia incidents (not on this scrubber) and they are manageable if addressed early. Hypercapnia is a serious condition in diving, but if you are aware of your body and your environment and practice your bailout procedures you should be able to handle it. You can not eliminate risk in diving, just manage it.

lof · 13th October 2006, 17:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by cedricverdier)

Looks nice. It looks like it easier to pack than the different radial caister I played with (Cis-Lunar, etc)

Cheers

Yes it is much easier to pack than Cis can. You just cover the center column and pour around it. tap down and pour..

mbelair · 13th October 2006, 17:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

I am not trying to make a sales pitch. This is a life support equipment. I'd rather you not buy it, if you are not comfortable with it.

Your transparency is appreciated.

Quote:

I know how hypercapnia manifests in me (couch diving is perfect first step for that).

I would definately see myself trying this out in my living room first.

When do you expect the test results to be out?

rogeringebo · 13th October 2006, 23:00

How much is 8 lbs in kilos

Cheers
Rodge

mortenkjerulff · 13th October 2006, 23:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo)

How much is 8 lbs in kilos

Cheers
Rodge

Hi Rodge.

You can always use Google and type f.ex. "8 lbs to kg".

Result:

8 pounds = 3.62873896 kilograms

Best regards
Morten

lof · 14th October 2006, 02:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by cedricverdier)

Looks nice. It looks like it easier to pack than the different radial caister I played with (Cis-Lunar, etc)

Cheers

Filling it for tomorrow. Just pour and tap. Notice the Sofnolime tub cover protecting the center column.

delidiver · 14th October 2006, 02:40

Jakup,
Are they ready to ship now?

Louis

pattimegdiver · 14th October 2006, 03:14

Do you make one for the Mini Meg? If available what would the cost be?

lof · 14th October 2006, 05:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by delidiver)

Jakup,
Are they ready to ship now?

Louis

No, 4-5 weeks for the first batch. I hope to have them at DEMA

13th October 2006, 15:42	#11 (permalink)
mbelair RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 83	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) Official test results are forthcoming. For now you will have to progressively test duration, as CO2 production can vary greatly in each idividual. This does not sound as much of a sales pitch to me . As a potential costumer, I don't feel the need to be a guinea pig. Maybe I'm over reacting, I have so far close to no experience with rebreathers other than two trial runs, I'm a cyber rebreather diver. How would one test duration safely? I'm not trolling, I just want to understand your position. Thanks __________________ Marc
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13th October 2006, 17:26	#12 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by mbelair) This does not sound as much of a sales pitch to me . As a potential costumer, I don't feel the need to be a guinea pig. Maybe I'm over reacting, I have so far close to no experience with rebreathers other than two trial runs, I'm a cyber rebreather diver. How would one test duration safely? I'm not trolling, I just want to understand your position. Thanks I am not trying to make a sales pitch. This is a life support equipment. I'd rather you not buy it, if you are not comfortable with it. Every rebreather diver is essentially a guinea pig. Consumer CCRs are a fairly young industry and there is precious little independent testing data available for any unit. Until the test results from independent testing agency are available for our scrubber, all I can tell you is what duration I or other test divers dove it for. But that would not be indicative of how long it would last for you, because each person produces different amount of CO2 under same load. Even same person will produce different amount of CO2 on different days. The way I determine duration of any scrubber, is that I take it on progressively longer/deeper dives. I know how hypercapnia manifests in me (couch diving is perfect first step for that). I carry plenty of bailout and practice procedures for SCR and OC bailout. Good BOV is of great value for quick sanity breaths when working hard (here is your sales pitch ). I've had several hypercapnia incidents (not on this scrubber) and they are manageable if addressed early. Hypercapnia is a serious condition in diving, but if you are aware of your body and your environment and practice your bailout procedures you should be able to handle it. You can not eliminate risk in diving, just manage it. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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13th October 2006, 17:46	#13 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by cedricverdier) Looks nice. It looks like it easier to pack than the different radial caister I played with (Cis-Lunar, etc) Cheers Yes it is much easier to pack than Cis can. You just cover the center column and pour around it. tap down and pour.. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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13th October 2006, 17:47	#14 (permalink)
mbelair RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 83	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) I am not trying to make a sales pitch. This is a life support equipment. I'd rather you not buy it, if you are not comfortable with it. Your transparency is appreciated. Quote: I know how hypercapnia manifests in me (couch diving is perfect first step for that). I would definately see myself trying this out in my living room first. When do you expect the test results to be out? __________________ Marc
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13th October 2006, 23:00	#15 (permalink)
rogeringebo Life starts at 100 Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 739	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg How much is 8 lbs in kilos Cheers Rodge __________________ Life starts at 100
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13th October 2006, 23:19	#16 (permalink)
mortenkjerulff Customise Me! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 151	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by rogeringebo) How much is 8 lbs in kilos Cheers Rodge Hi Rodge. You can always use Google and type f.ex. "8 lbs to kg". Result: 8 pounds = 3.62873896 kilograms Best regards Morten
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14th October 2006, 02:15	#17 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by cedricverdier) Looks nice. It looks like it easier to pack than the different radial caister I played with (Cis-Lunar, etc) Cheers Filling it for tomorrow. Just pour and tap. Notice the Sofnolime tub cover protecting the center column. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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14th October 2006, 02:40	#18 (permalink)
delidiver DELIDIVER Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Merion, PA USA Posts: 47	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Jakup, Are they ready to ship now? Louis __________________ Dive Safe & Dive Often!
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14th October 2006, 03:14	#19 (permalink)
pattimegdiver RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 307	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Do you make one for the Mini Meg? If available what would the cost be? __________________ Patti Meg Diver Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk
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14th October 2006, 05:09	#20 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 501	Re: Radial Scrubber for Meg Quote: (Originally Posted by delidiver) Jakup, Are they ready to ship now? Louis No, 4-5 weeks for the first batch. I hope to have them at DEMA __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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