Original CL or Neoprene

scubadan · 7th August 2006, 03:31

What is the preference between the original Counterlungs and the optional neoprene ones??

webhead · 7th August 2006, 04:03

Neoprene is the original CLs. I have both and prefer my well used neoprene ones.

dgschott · 7th August 2006, 04:06

Hey there! I just went through this tough decision - lol. I had people telling me to go with the neoprene, I had people telling me to go with the original cordura. I just got my Meg a week ago with the neoprene c/l's and I really like them. I did my training on the cordura ones. Overall there's not much of a difference, but I think the neoprene c/l's feel a little smaller. It doesn't feel like there's stuff all over your chest. Overall, I spent way too much time debating that decision - I think I'd be happy either way, but definately like the neoprene ones so far and happy I spent the extra 300 bucks. I don't have the time or experience to say anything on the durability - apparently the neoprene ones aren't as durable - but they seem pretty tough to me. (remember - I'm a brand new Meg diver - So take what I'm saying with a grain of salt) It'll be interesting to hear what some of the experienced Meg divers have to say!

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What is the preference between the original Counterlungs and the optional neoprene ones??

PacketSniffer · 14th November 2006, 18:13

Please help me understand something. Why can't a layer of cordura be glued over the top of the neoprene lungs to protect them from snags/pin holes? I assume the top is where most pinholes/snags are coming from. Even so, you could put a layer of cordura on the back as well. Just don't connect the pieces of cordura so the lung can't flex open. And maybe cordura is not the right material. Surely, something could be laid over the lung that is thin, flexible, but yet tear resistant. This would go a long way toward longevity. Would this hurt the peformance of the lung?

webhead · 14th November 2006, 20:07

I believe one of the wearability issues w/ the neo lungs is that they came apart. They are glued versus sewn and people have said that they were coming apart. I've had one hole to date which was fixed w/ some aquaseal - not my 1st choice but what they had at the resort. And I have had to re-iron the material used on the edges a couple times but that was easier than ironing a handkerchief. So far, mine are still on one piece after 4-5 years. They don't get the use they did when I got the unit but they get wet often enough.

So I think you can cover the neo lungs w/ nylon or cordura but not sure how long or well they will stay glued together. But if you end up w/ raised seams and a rough material on the outside, what's the point.

The 2 negatives I've heard about the neo lungs is that they are harder to keep clean/disinfected and the WOB is a little more than the cordura ones.

quickean · 16th November 2006, 03:12

It would be cool if they made crushed neoprene counterlungs. For some reason I don't think DUI would sell the material to anyone though.

Genesis · 16th November 2006, 04:00

I've been trying to source crushed neo, with no success. It sure looks like one of those "you gotta be a manufacturer of suits or material and do it yourself" kind of things.

Brad_Horn · 16th November 2006, 08:17

For crushed neo O'Three - Home have a very good customer service view.

They make VERY high quality crushed neoprene drysuits and will bend over backwards to help customers.

Regards

7th August 2006, 03:31	#1 (permalink)
scubadan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 35	Original CL or Neoprene What is the preference between the original Counterlungs and the optional neoprene ones??
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7th August 2006, 04:03	#2 (permalink)
webhead Earning the green stuff.. Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East central Florida Posts: 284	Re: Original CL or Neoprene Neoprene is the original CLs. I have both and prefer my well used neoprene ones. __________________ "These are not the droids you are looking for.... move along" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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7th August 2006, 04:06	#3 (permalink)
dgschott Liquid Productions, LLC Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aston, PA Posts: 115	Re: Original CL or Neoprene Hey there! I just went through this tough decision - lol. I had people telling me to go with the neoprene, I had people telling me to go with the original cordura. I just got my Meg a week ago with the neoprene c/l's and I really like them. I did my training on the cordura ones. Overall there's not much of a difference, but I think the neoprene c/l's feel a little smaller. It doesn't feel like there's stuff all over your chest. Overall, I spent way too much time debating that decision - I think I'd be happy either way, but definately like the neoprene ones so far and happy I spent the extra 300 bucks. I don't have the time or experience to say anything on the durability - apparently the neoprene ones aren't as durable - but they seem pretty tough to me. (remember - I'm a brand new Meg diver - So take what I'm saying with a grain of salt) It'll be interesting to hear what some of the experienced Meg divers have to say! Quote: (Originally Posted by scubadan) What is the preference between the original Counterlungs and the optional neoprene ones?? __________________ David Schott Liquid Productions, LLC
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14th November 2006, 18:13	#4 (permalink)
PacketSniffer ~~~~~ #417 ~~~~~ Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 437	Re: Original CL or Neoprene Please help me understand something. Why can't a layer of cordura be glued over the top of the neoprene lungs to protect them from snags/pin holes? I assume the top is where most pinholes/snags are coming from. Even so, you could put a layer of cordura on the back as well. Just don't connect the pieces of cordura so the lung can't flex open. And maybe cordura is not the right material. Surely, something could be laid over the lung that is thin, flexible, but yet tear resistant. This would go a long way toward longevity. Would this hurt the peformance of the lung? __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory or defeat.
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14th November 2006, 20:07	#5 (permalink)
webhead Earning the green stuff.. Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East central Florida Posts: 284	Re: Original CL or Neoprene I believe one of the wearability issues w/ the neo lungs is that they came apart. They are glued versus sewn and people have said that they were coming apart. I've had one hole to date which was fixed w/ some aquaseal - not my 1st choice but what they had at the resort. And I have had to re-iron the material used on the edges a couple times but that was easier than ironing a handkerchief. So far, mine are still on one piece after 4-5 years. They don't get the use they did when I got the unit but they get wet often enough. So I think you can cover the neo lungs w/ nylon or cordura but not sure how long or well they will stay glued together. But if you end up w/ raised seams and a rough material on the outside, what's the point. The 2 negatives I've heard about the neo lungs is that they are harder to keep clean/disinfected and the WOB is a little more than the cordura ones. __________________ "These are not the droids you are looking for.... move along" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
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16th November 2006, 03:12	#6 (permalink)
quickean RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 140	Re: Original CL or Neoprene It would be cool if they made crushed neoprene counterlungs. For some reason I don't think DUI would sell the material to anyone though.
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16th November 2006, 04:00	#7 (permalink)
Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,453	Re: Original CL or Neoprene I've been trying to source crushed neo, with no success. It sure looks like one of those "you gotta be a manufacturer of suits or material and do it yourself" kind of things. __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket
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16th November 2006, 08:17	#8 (permalink)
Brad_Horn Checklist, tick! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 518	Re: Original CL or Neoprene For crushed neo O'Three - Home have a very good customer service view. They make VERY high quality crushed neoprene drysuits and will bend over backwards to help customers. Regards
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